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#1 Posted: 11/5/2009 12:47:04 PM
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Jeter 18 Utley 31
Cano 25 Howard 45
Teix 39 Ibenaz 34
A-Rod 30 Werth 36
Damon 13 Feliz 12
Melky 13 Rollins 21
Matsui 28 Victorino 10
Swisher 29 Ruiz 9
now when i look at these numbers i don't see much difference in production the only difference is the pay in which 1 receives now all you folks out there that talk about the Yankees and there payroll take a look at this
I don't want to get into pitching because the Cardinals had the best pitching in the ML, better than the Yankees and the Phillies so no need to bring this up even though the Yankee pitcher makes more money
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#2 Posted: 11/5/2009 1:43:26 PM  |
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#3 Posted: 11/5/2009 1:45:35 PM N.Y. Yankees $201,449,289 average player $7,748,050
Philadelphia $113,004,048 average player $4,185,335
Difference of slightly under 90 million dollars... or A-Rod, Texeria, Sabathia, and Burnett |
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#4 Posted: 11/5/2009 1:46:16 PM |
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#5 Posted: 11/5/2009 2:50:07 PM 
look a production and how much the players get paid not just the pay check
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#6 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:01:23 PM
A-rod and Teix = 69 Hr's
as you could see how much you get paid has nothing to do with production, some may say that it makes a player start slacking cause they already got the payday they was looking for and if you look at these players you would think the Howard and Werth makes more than A-Rod and Teix
all in all the non-sense about the payroll has no substance and means nothing and as for pitchers like i said the Cardinals had the best pitching rotation so take C.C and Bernett of the list well you could leave C.C. even though he did not record a win in the WS he still had 19 W's
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#7 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:08:42 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by woopdurritis: N.Y. Yankees $201,449,289 average player $7,748,050
Philadelphia $113,004,048 average player $4,185,335
Difference of slightly under 90 million dollars... or A-Rod, Texeria, Sabathia, and Burnett
Yanks Payroll Difference from Phills 88M
Red Cox payroll Difference from Rockies 89M
W P!!!!!!!!!! Do the Math, Mr. Economics?? 89M>88M......
2009 World Series Champions...... New York Yankees!!!
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#8 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:24:55 PM
Howard- $15,000,000
Werth- $2,500,000
$ 17,000,000 for 81 Hr's
A-rod- $33,000,000
Teix- $20,625,000
$53,625,000 for 61 Hr's
when does the payroll take effect cause i bet the Yanks would love to pay only $17,000,000 for an extra 20 Hr's then the price they paid for 61 Hr's
let's go deeper
Chase Utley- $11,285,714
Raul Ibanez- $7,166,666
$18,452,580 for 65 Hr's (this is more than a-rod and Teix)
Nick Swisher- $5,400,000
Hideki Matsui- $13,000,000
$18,400,000 for 57 Hr's
as you could see that the payroll still hasn't made any difference for the Yankees if anything you would think that the Yankees had the smaller payroll if you look at it production wise
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#9 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:32:50 PM
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#10 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:43:35 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by swk111:
are you serious with this thread?
You really arent going to count the 32 regular season wins and 7 playoff wins that CC and AJ had between the two of them because the cardinals had better pitching? How the fuck does that make sense? Do you not realize buying guys like Arod and Tex not only gives the yanks 60-70 more hr's between the two but also makes everyone in the lineup better just because of their presence? I cant believe that you're (1) comparing salaries to homeruns hit and (2) disregarding pitching which is the most important part of the game
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#11 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:45:00 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by NiC_IcE:
anybody else thinks its cause of the payroll why they won the WS i believe not... all in all the Yanks are over paying these guys but it's worth it when the "TEAM CHEMISTRY" comes into play cause thats what wins championships along with talented pitching and managing
Yes, you add the top three free agents in the game and give AROD, whom was technically a free agent because he opted out, 300million!!!!
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#12 Posted: 11/5/2009 3:59:15 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:
Yes, you add the top three free agents in the game and give AROD, whom was technically a free agent because he opted out, 300million!!!!
YES< MONEY BUYS YOU SHIT> GIRLS< CARS< HOMES ANND EVEN WORLD SERIES>
i see you talk a good one but you can't read for sh*t.... look at the
production of the top paid players on the two teams over the season top free agents mean... production is what counts not how much they get paid or the title they had before the Yankee got them
excuses are for losers... well that explains it
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#13 Posted: 11/5/2009 4:07:00 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by woopdurritis: N.Y. Yankees $201,449,289 average player $7,748,050
Philadelphia $113,004,048 average player $4,185,335
Difference of slightly under 90 million dollars... or A-Rod, Texeria, Sabathia, and Burnett
lets see you could match A-Rod (30Hr's) with Werth (34Hr's) and Teix(39Hr's) with Howard(45Hr's)
and Cliff Lee beat C.C in game 1 and Burnett in game 5 i still don't see any point your trying to make... that's the highest paid players on the Yankees and i still don't see where the money came into play maybe you could help me out by putting up stats, not to mention the Utley and Ibenaz had more home runs that A-rod and Teix... nobody has anything to say about the stat or its the money that won it... o yea wasn't the same Phillies in the WS last year so you could even add experience along with those bats
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#14 Posted: 11/5/2009 4:09:47 PM
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#15 Posted: 11/5/2009 4:44:41 PM How many games did A rod miss this year and he still hit 30 HR and over 100 RBIS? |
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#16 Posted: 11/5/2009 4:50:00 PM He played 124 games.
162 - 124 = 38 games A rod missed
His numbers are deflated |
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#17 Posted: 11/5/2009 4:51:29 PM |
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#18 Posted: 11/5/2009 4:59:47 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by NiC_IcE:
how come nobody said the Phillie brought the WS last year... i mean their payroll was more than the Rays right???
Quick question ... Do the Yanks win the world series without CC/Tex/AJ because last year they didn't and this past year they over paid for these players and won. So did they buy their World Series I would say Yes. Were they the better team? Yes this series but all around I don't think they are. Hats off and Congrats.
BTW when you can take the bottom 3 payrolled teams add them up and still have enough to buy another team which is equivalent of the Yanks payroll. I think that answers your question. |
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#19 Posted: 11/5/2009 5:28:09 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by yankees2k6: Yanks Payroll Difference from Phills 88M Red Cox payroll Difference from Rockies 89M W P!!!!!!!!!! Do the Math, Mr. Economics?? 89M>88M...... 2009 World Series Champions...... New York Yankees!!!
Yankees difference between Rockies 209 million - 68 million = 141 million
141>89 Do the Math, Mr. Finance/Economics 
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#20 Posted: 11/5/2009 7:15:35 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by woopdurritis:
Yankees difference between Rockies 209 million - 68 million = 141 million
141>89 Do the Math, Mr. Finance/Economics
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#21 Posted: 11/5/2009 7:22:08 PM 
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#22 Posted: 11/5/2009 7:24:19 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by ALLABOUTME:
Quick question ... Do the Yanks win the world series without CC/Tex/AJ because last year they didn't and this past year they over paid for these players and won. So did they buy their World Series I would say Yes. Were they the better team? Yes this series but all around I don't think they are. Hats off and Congrats.
BTW when you can take the bottom 3 payrolled teams add them up and still have enough to buy another team which is equivalent of the Yanks payroll. I think that answers your question.
And do the Phillies even make the playoffs w/o Cliff Lee????????
Would they have won 1 game in W.S. without him???
We'll give up CC when you give up Cliff Lee... STFU jealous losers
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#23 Posted: 11/5/2009 7:28:43 PM
Philadelphia 112,654,711
Tampa Bay 51,020,720
As my cousin Vinny would say "Does the defenses argument hold water?
Marissa Tomei "No"
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#24 Posted: 11/5/2009 7:40:24 PM
and i don't think any person alive today would turn down 150million plus the chance for a ring then 140 and a chance at 2'nd place in the division i think mark would of took 100 mill its just the yanks had to over bid Balt and Boston so be it who the champ and your team wouldn't have paid C.C anyway so you can't cry over that 1 nor would they have paid A-Rod so for you to cry about how much they make would be since less and A-rod is not going to a team just for money he has enough from the first 2 contracts he wanted a ring
Quick question ... Do the Yanks win the world series without
CC/Tex/AJ because last year they didn't and this past year they over
paid for these players and won. So did they buy their World Series I
would say Yes. Were they the better team? Yes this series but all
around I don't think they are. Hats off and Congrats.
BTW when you can take the bottom 3 payrolled teams add them up and still have enough to buy another team which is equivalent of the Yanks payroll. I think that answers your question. never answer a question with a question and the bottom payroll teams are at the bottom because they do invest in there team but the Yanks haven't won in 9 years with there bis payroll and all so why can't anybody come up with a explanation for that 1
i got a question how much money the the Yankees make this year??? cause i'm guessing that they should pocket the money instead of getting a new pitcher and by the way the Card's have 10 WS rings... 10 that means small market teams have a chance Yankees just wanna win unlike the other big market small payroll teams ask Bobby V if it's good for the game or not
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#25 Posted: 11/5/2009 8:28:36 PM Not sure I understand the arguement here. It sounds to me like the only stat you are taking into account is homeruns. Yes the Phils hit alot of homeruns but those homeruns would be meaningless if they played defense like the Nationals. Don't forget how good the Phillies defense is. With the exception of Ibanez in the field the Phils have an exceptional defensive team including Ryan Howard who vastly improved his defensive game.
Bottom line to the series is Rollins and Victorino were not on base which makes pitching to Howard a whole lot easier. |
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