Warriors set to sign Matt Barnes in reaction to Kevin Durant injury, per @ESPNSteinLine

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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:23:49 AM
Looks like the Durant injury might be significant. This is bad news for KD fans and fake Warriors/NBA fans but great news for those who hate super teams and love a little competitive balance. I don't wish injury upon anyone but would love to see the Warriors make a run at the title without KD and I like the signing of Barnes. This will be a much grittier team without Durant and can you imagine all the close series they will have against the Rockets, Clippers and Spurs? 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:33:47 AM
So I don't want to toot my own horn here but I posted on 2/24 (Clippers Improvement thread) that the Warriors could be in big trouble if either Durant or Curry were injured for playoffs. It is yet to be known how serious the injury is but by the look of things it might not be so good. Hopefully the rest of their squad can stay healthy or else it could be a very disappointing playoff run for GSW...
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:34:13 AM
wow seem like he is going to miss some time..

maybe he'll be back in time for playoffs? 

just can't see Durant not playing the rest of the year but having Barnes is a good depth pickup. Cavs are loading up on vets with D Will and Bogut. the Warriors might as well do the same..

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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:37:44 AM
Looks Like Green is happy about it hell be back in the group of 3 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:40:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

wow seem like he is going to miss some time..

maybe he'll be back in time for playoffs? 

just can't see Durant not playing the rest of the year but having Barnes is a good depth pickup. Cavs are loading up on vets with D Will and Bogut. the Warriors might as well do the same..


If the Warriors have to go all the way without Durant, they won't make it. And, ironically, it will all be because of signing Durant. In getting Durant, they created an arms race. The Rockets, Clippers, Cavs, and even Grizz, loaded their teams with talent and experience, just to keep up with the Warriors. Now those teams are much deeper, and the Warriors are in big trouble. These teams have also been waiting for this opportunity. After all the humiliating losses to the Warriors, they will be salivating to get their revenge. 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:46:04 AM
I already see several losses on the horizon...
Without Durant, they will have to expend a lot of energy just to retain homecourt, though they will likely lose it to the Spurs.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:47:59 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by begginerboy:

I already see several losses on the horizon...
Without Durant, they will have to expend a lot of energy just to retain homecourt, though they will likely lose it to the Spurs.


Things are starting to get very interesting 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:48:00 AM
i agree BB

i think the Rockets are the most dangerous out of the bunch. adding Eric Gordon has made a world of difference between this year's team and last. Lou Williams was a nice add as well and getting rid of Dwight Howard is a godsend..Nene is a much better player.

and the Grizz are definitely a team that shouldn't be slept on. they are the team that has the most success giving Warriors trouble if you don't count the last couple years

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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:54:07 AM
...except for this season. Grizz have their number once again

forgot to mention 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 2:59:06 AM
And don't forget the Spurs...
Or the Clippers. Of all the teams, this injury will give the Clippers the most life. They will be very tough to take out.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:00:38 AM
Lol.... this is still the Warriors we are talking about.  Even with out KD... they still cruise the remainder of the season and possibly get him back for the playoffs.   The big 3 + Iguadala is all you need.  This is the same core that made it to the finals and had a 3-1 lead on the Cavs. 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:06:31 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by davemsh:

Lol.... this is still the Warriors we are talking about.  Even with out KD... they still cruise the remainder of the season and possibly get him back for the playoffs.   The big 3 + Iguadala is all you need.  This is the same core that made it to the finals and had a 3-1 lead on the Cavs. 


You are forgetting... Bogut is gone. They have no one to match up in center--- which is fine if you can hit 3s all day long but it's hard to maintain that for 4 games in a row. The cracks are there if you're willing to notice.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:10:09 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by davemsh:

Lol.... this is still the Warriors we are talking about.  Even with out KD... they still cruise the remainder of the season and possibly get him back for the playoffs.   The big 3 + Iguadala is all you need.  This is the same core that made it to the finals and had a 3-1 lead on the Cavs. 

No. This is the same core (now without Bogut and Barnes) that blew a 3-1 lead and needed to sign Durant. You are mistaken if you think this team is going to win the title or even the West without Durant. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it, but it ain't happening. There is too much talent in the West, and a lot of angry teams that have waited for this opportunity. Heck, the Durant signing even made Curry and Klay regress. They will now have to play as well as they did the last couple of years.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:14:57 AM
i think.... the Cavs could repeat again. 

as long as they don't play the Spurs in the finals. 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:16:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

i think.... the Cavs could repeat again. 

as long as they don't play the Spurs in the finals. 

If Durant is out for the playoffs, the Cavs are a great bet.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:17:04 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by desertspade:



You are forgetting... Bogut is gone. They have no one to match up in center--- which is fine if you can hit 3s all day long but it's hard to maintain that for 4 games in a row. The cracks are there if you're willing to notice.

You gotta remember.. during their championship run 2 years ago.. the small ball lineup is what carried them.. big 3..Iggy & Livingston... In the playoffs the rotation shrinks...ofcourse you still need the bigs for parts of the game but Warriors are very capable of winning it all without KD.  If KD is out for the season.. Kerr will make adjustments and they will be fine.  
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:18:58 AM
BTW, I have to say this. The play that Durant got injured on was all Zaza's fault. Sure he got the foul but it was a total flop. One of those stupid European flop moves that Valde Divac introduced. Watch the play--there is no way Gortat has the strength or the desire to throw down Zaza like a rag doll. Zaza is an idiot and it is fitting that he caused the injury.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:21:46 AM
Cavs thought February was good. March might be even better for them 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:23:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by davemsh:


You gotta remember.. during their championship run 2 years ago.. the small ball lineup is what carried them.. big 3..Iggy & Livingston... In the playoffs the rotation shrinks...ofcourse you still need the bigs for parts of the game but Warriors are very capable of winning it all without KD.  If KD is out for the season.. Kerr will make adjustments and they will be fine.  

No one is saying they can't win, but it will be very hard. Barnes, as bad as he was, was much better than anyone the Warriors have now to play small forward. The guy was a very good defensive player. And Bogut, forget about it. His basketball IQ and defense was off the charts. Zaza's brain added to McGee's does not equal half of Bogut's, nor does their combined defense. And now you got a rely on a guy like Iggy (who has played a gazillion games) to play heavy minutes? Are you kidding yourself?
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:28:25 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by davemsh:

You gotta remember.. during their championship run 2 years ago.. the small ball lineup is what carried them.. big 3..Iggy & Livingston... In the playoffs the rotation shrinks...ofcourse you still need the bigs for parts of the game but Warriors are very capable of winning it all without KD.  If KD is out for the season.. Kerr will make adjustments and they will be fine.  


I won't agree or disagree because it is possible but I do think their energy has changed since 2 years ago and I think there are some stress points on the Warriors that are starting to be of concern. We'll soon see though... playoffs aren't too far off.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:31:45 AM
Cavs have to at least be on parity with Warriors to win it all at this point. They got some decent guys to abandon ship and come over to Cleveland and now KD is questionable. 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 3:36:54 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by desertspade:



I won't agree or disagree because it is possible but I do think their energy has changed since 2 years ago and I think there are some stress points on the Warriors that are starting to be of concern. We'll soon see though... playoffs aren't too far off.

"Energy" is not the right word, though I know what you are trying to say. The two biggest things that have changed are 

1) Chemistry. This is a different team, though the key guys are still there.
2) They are no longer the hunter but are now the hunted. This is big. Last year they still played with a chip on their shoulders, like underdogs (because people did not think their title was legit). Now they have to fend off teams gunning for them. That is a totally different scenario for this team.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 5:57:23 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by davemsh:


You gotta remember.. during their championship run 2 years ago.. the small ball lineup is what carried them.. big 3..Iggy & Livingston... In the playoffs the rotation shrinks...ofcourse you still need the bigs for parts of the game but Warriors are very capable of winning it all without KD.  If KD is out for the season.. Kerr will make adjustments and they will be fine.  

As far as I remember, they used that small ball lineup in the Game 4 of NBA Finals for the first time 2 years ago when they got the championship. And they continued to use it last year in the regular season and playoffs. That lineup had big 3 + Iggy + Harrison Barnes in it. Barnes is now replaced by an upgrade in Kevin Durant. Without Durant there is no small ball lineup.

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Posted: 3/1/2017 6:46:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by begginerboy:

I already see several losses on the horizon...
Without Durant, they will have to expend a lot of energy just to retain homecourt, though they will likely lose it to the Spurs.

Wow! thats too bold man
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Posted: 3/1/2017 6:49:08 AM
Durant is the teams best rebounder at 8.2 per game, Green 8.1.

Warriors 48.65% rebs at the break are already a weak rebounding team and now they get weaker.

Curry is not the same player he was last year when he had maybe greatest season in  history.

Spurs have a great shot to beat the Warriors if Durant does not come back .
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