Faves won & covered the spread 91 out of 165 games i played (4push).
In 2 months i only had 15 losings days picking faves & am 91-74-4 ats. 55%
Future Bets:
ECF Winner: MIA HUGE WCF Winner: OKC 2012/2013 NBA Champion: MIA
- I don't see any other team beating Miami in the East. Heavy-Ref fave Miami won't lose.
- Nothing i like more than a team who lost the finals just the season prior. Hungrier & more determined. Highly battle tested now also. They'll pull it out.
- Miami got even deeper & more stacked this season. While other teams like Dallas, OKC & Memphis had to trade away significant key players (god knows what that lock out was for). Lebron now thinks he grew nuts after buying.....er....i mean winning his first ring. So that should ease the Queens nerves more now. I don't see anybody beating this team, especially when heavily favored by the officiating like we've been seeing for the past couple of seasons.
1st Round Leans:
BOS +6.5 GSW +7.5 CHI +4.5 MEM +5
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I ended post all-stars 173-131-4 ATS. 57%
Faves won & covered the spread 91 out of 165 games i played (4push).
In 2 months i only had 15 losings days picking faves & am 91-74-4 ats. 55%
Future Bets:
ECF Winner: MIA HUGE WCF Winner: OKC 2012/2013 NBA Champion: MIA
- I don't see any other team beating Miami in the East. Heavy-Ref fave Miami won't lose.
- Nothing i like more than a team who lost the finals just the season prior. Hungrier & more determined. Highly battle tested now also. They'll pull it out.
- Miami got even deeper & more stacked this season. While other teams like Dallas, OKC & Memphis had to trade away significant key players (god knows what that lock out was for). Lebron now thinks he grew nuts after buying.....er....i mean winning his first ring. So that should ease the Queens nerves more now. I don't see anybody beating this team, especially when heavily favored by the officiating like we've been seeing for the past couple of seasons.
Agree we're most likely going to have a rematch of last year's finals and nothing should change as the Heat got stronger and the Thunder are probably worse
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Agree we're most likely going to have a rematch of last year's finals and nothing should change as the Heat got stronger and the Thunder are probably worse
Agree we're most likely going to have a rematch of last year's finals and nothing should change as the Heat got stronger and the Thunder are probably worse
It was obviously a big mistake getting rid of Harden. Harden is what gave them depth. He also has alot of playoff experience under his belt. Spite of him not playing too well in last years finals that only would have given him more fuel and motivation to not only improve this year but would have had alot to prove w/ more hunger. I think he would have come up big for Thunder this playoffs. But now that's all gone. Martin is good but he doesn't have the playoff experience like Harden, wich is crucial and also does not have even half the defensive skills as Harden.
spite of that Thunder should win a game or 2 more than last years finals.
It's funny though....... that that lock out was supposed to be about teams being competitive w/ big market teams yet while Miami keeps it's big 3 every other team had to give up their big players to avoid going over the tax. IT wasn't already unfair elites joining elites and then teams had to give their own up in order to afford the team they have. Miami have such as easy road to their championships it's not even funny. To me this will always be a terrible time for the NBA.
rant over.
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Quote Originally Posted by P4P:
Agree we're most likely going to have a rematch of last year's finals and nothing should change as the Heat got stronger and the Thunder are probably worse
It was obviously a big mistake getting rid of Harden. Harden is what gave them depth. He also has alot of playoff experience under his belt. Spite of him not playing too well in last years finals that only would have given him more fuel and motivation to not only improve this year but would have had alot to prove w/ more hunger. I think he would have come up big for Thunder this playoffs. But now that's all gone. Martin is good but he doesn't have the playoff experience like Harden, wich is crucial and also does not have even half the defensive skills as Harden.
spite of that Thunder should win a game or 2 more than last years finals.
It's funny though....... that that lock out was supposed to be about teams being competitive w/ big market teams yet while Miami keeps it's big 3 every other team had to give up their big players to avoid going over the tax. IT wasn't already unfair elites joining elites and then teams had to give their own up in order to afford the team they have. Miami have such as easy road to their championships it's not even funny. To me this will always be a terrible time for the NBA.
I disagree, Thunder are much stronger this year, they are one of just a handful of teams to produce a margin of victory over 9 pts in the regular season, while the Heat have 4th worst margin's of victory for teams with 65 wins or better in a season, 3 of the previous 4 failed to win the title.
The Heat are by far the worst rebounding team to get 65 wins or better in a season.
Weak rebounding teams rarely win titles, Pat Riley always told his Lakers teams who were borderline weak, no rebounds = no rings and that has held oh so true through the years.
OKC certainly can and likely will beat the Heat in this years final..............................................
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I disagree, Thunder are much stronger this year, they are one of just a handful of teams to produce a margin of victory over 9 pts in the regular season, while the Heat have 4th worst margin's of victory for teams with 65 wins or better in a season, 3 of the previous 4 failed to win the title.
The Heat are by far the worst rebounding team to get 65 wins or better in a season.
Weak rebounding teams rarely win titles, Pat Riley always told his Lakers teams who were borderline weak, no rebounds = no rings and that has held oh so true through the years.
OKC certainly can and likely will beat the Heat in this years final..............................................
Actually should of said 2 of the previous 4 (50%) - 65 game winners or better with the worst margins of victory have failed to win the title while the remaining 11 - 65 game winners with stronger margins of 8.5 or better, 10 of the 11 (90.9%) won the title.
Only Lebron's 2009 Cavs failed.
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Actually should of said 2 of the previous 4 (50%) - 65 game winners or better with the worst margins of victory have failed to win the title while the remaining 11 - 65 game winners with stronger margins of 8.5 or better, 10 of the 11 (90.9%) won the title.
I disagree, Thunder are much stronger this year, they are one of just a handful of teams to produce a margin of victory over 9 pts in the regular season, while the Heat have 4th worst margin's of victory for teams with 65 wins or better in a season, 3 of the previous 4 failed to win the title.
The Heat are by far the worst rebounding team to get 65 wins or better in a season.
Weak rebounding teams rarely win titles, Pat Riley always told his Lakers teams who were borderline weak, no rebounds = no rings and that has held oh so true through the years.
OKC certainly can and likely will beat the Heat in this years final..............................................
Miami have not been a good rebounding team for sometime now, even before Bosh & Lebron signed. Pretty sure Riley has said they have enough weapons to offset any rebounding issues (not in those exact words). Miami obviously struggle more against taller teams like Indy, Boston & OKC ect. in the past but we've seen them get bailed out by officiating. This factors very heavily in me taking Miami to win it all.
Also, Miami cruise & play w/ their opponents. knowing they can turn on the switch when ever they can. I think if they wanted they could have beaten teams by 9+ also.
Miami have become far stronger than OKC this season. Letting go of Harden was a big mistake!
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
I disagree, Thunder are much stronger this year, they are one of just a handful of teams to produce a margin of victory over 9 pts in the regular season, while the Heat have 4th worst margin's of victory for teams with 65 wins or better in a season, 3 of the previous 4 failed to win the title.
The Heat are by far the worst rebounding team to get 65 wins or better in a season.
Weak rebounding teams rarely win titles, Pat Riley always told his Lakers teams who were borderline weak, no rebounds = no rings and that has held oh so true through the years.
OKC certainly can and likely will beat the Heat in this years final..............................................
Miami have not been a good rebounding team for sometime now, even before Bosh & Lebron signed. Pretty sure Riley has said they have enough weapons to offset any rebounding issues (not in those exact words). Miami obviously struggle more against taller teams like Indy, Boston & OKC ect. in the past but we've seen them get bailed out by officiating. This factors very heavily in me taking Miami to win it all.
Also, Miami cruise & play w/ their opponents. knowing they can turn on the switch when ever they can. I think if they wanted they could have beaten teams by 9+ also.
Miami have become far stronger than OKC this season. Letting go of Harden was a big mistake!
Actually should of said 2 of the previous 4 (50%) - 65 game winners or better with the worst margins of victory have failed to win the title while the remaining 11 - 65 game winners with stronger margins of 8.5 or better, 10 of the 11 (90.9%) won the title.
Only Lebron's 2009 Cavs failed.
i hope your right tho. it would be the only happy loss for me if thunder do take them out. i'd celebrate for months.
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Actually should of said 2 of the previous 4 (50%) - 65 game winners or better with the worst margins of victory have failed to win the title while the remaining 11 - 65 game winners with stronger margins of 8.5 or better, 10 of the 11 (90.9%) won the title.
Only Lebron's 2009 Cavs failed.
i hope your right tho. it would be the only happy loss for me if thunder do take them out. i'd celebrate for months.
Miami have not been a good rebounding team for sometime now, even before Bosh & Lebron signed. Pretty sure Riley has said they have enough weapons to offset any rebounding issues (not in those exact words). Miami obviously struggle more against taller teams like Indy, Boston & OKC ect. in the past but we've seen them get bailed out by officiating. This factors very heavily in me taking Miami to win it all.
Also, Miami cruise & play w/ their opponents. knowing they can turn on the switch when ever they can. I think if they wanted they could have beaten teams by 9+ also.
Miami have become far stronger than OKC this season. Letting go of Harden was a big mistake!
2013 Miami got 47.6% rebounds
2012 Miami got 50.24%
No comparison to Miami's rebounding this year and last.
Since 1974 when the league started tracking offensive and defensive rebounding just 2 teams won the title with rebounding under 49.25. Many of the greatest players and greatest winners in history failed to win the title playing on a weak rebounding team, Bird, Magic and Jordan to name a few.
No-way Pat Riley said such things about rebounding, you might be thinking of George Karl who routinely had weak rebounding teams and trie to convince people of such things that one could make-up for weak rebounding by doing other things well.
The most important stat in basketball with the highest correlation to winning NBA games, field goal % differential
2013 Thunder 5.6%
2012 Thunder 4.4%
PT margin
2013 Thunder 9.21
2012 Thunder 6.2
Thunder improved from last year by a huge 1.2%, and they produced one of the best point margins in the regulr season in history becoming one of a handful of teams to be over 9 pts.
The Thunder are clearly without question better this year and the Heat would be as I already pointed out one of the weakest 65 game winners, in history Thunder are likely to beat the Heat in the finals and should be the favorite, you can get them at a premium price ....................
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Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:
Miami have not been a good rebounding team for sometime now, even before Bosh & Lebron signed. Pretty sure Riley has said they have enough weapons to offset any rebounding issues (not in those exact words). Miami obviously struggle more against taller teams like Indy, Boston & OKC ect. in the past but we've seen them get bailed out by officiating. This factors very heavily in me taking Miami to win it all.
Also, Miami cruise & play w/ their opponents. knowing they can turn on the switch when ever they can. I think if they wanted they could have beaten teams by 9+ also.
Miami have become far stronger than OKC this season. Letting go of Harden was a big mistake!
2013 Miami got 47.6% rebounds
2012 Miami got 50.24%
No comparison to Miami's rebounding this year and last.
Since 1974 when the league started tracking offensive and defensive rebounding just 2 teams won the title with rebounding under 49.25. Many of the greatest players and greatest winners in history failed to win the title playing on a weak rebounding team, Bird, Magic and Jordan to name a few.
No-way Pat Riley said such things about rebounding, you might be thinking of George Karl who routinely had weak rebounding teams and trie to convince people of such things that one could make-up for weak rebounding by doing other things well.
The most important stat in basketball with the highest correlation to winning NBA games, field goal % differential
2013 Thunder 5.6%
2012 Thunder 4.4%
PT margin
2013 Thunder 9.21
2012 Thunder 6.2
Thunder improved from last year by a huge 1.2%, and they produced one of the best point margins in the regulr season in history becoming one of a handful of teams to be over 9 pts.
The Thunder are clearly without question better this year and the Heat would be as I already pointed out one of the weakest 65 game winners, in history Thunder are likely to beat the Heat in the finals and should be the favorite, you can get them at a premium price ....................
I agree with you on the Clippers who should handle the Grizz and would be my best value series winner play of the 1st round.
If you think Clips will win the series I wouldn't bet against them in game 1 as the team to win the series wins game 1 a high % of time and if the Clips win with a 5 pt spread they likely will cover.......................
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Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:
plays:
BOS +7 GSW +8 CHI +4.5 MEM +5
Series Bet:
LAC win series over Memphis.
I agree with you on the Clippers who should handle the Grizz and would be my best value series winner play of the 1st round.
If you think Clips will win the series I wouldn't bet against them in game 1 as the team to win the series wins game 1 a high % of time and if the Clips win with a 5 pt spread they likely will cover.......................
Hey 3Ball, been following you for awhile, thanks for your picks. You still liking Boston even tho the reverse line movement to +7.5? Im liking Boston too but the line movement making it hard for me to pull the trigger.
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Hey 3Ball, been following you for awhile, thanks for your picks. You still liking Boston even tho the reverse line movement to +7.5? Im liking Boston too but the line movement making it hard for me to pull the trigger.
No comparison to Miami's rebounding this year and last.
Since 1974 when the league started tracking offensive and defensive rebounding just 2 teams won the title with rebounding under 49.25. Many of the greatest players and greatest winners in history failed to win the title playing on a weak rebounding team, Bird, Magic and Jordan to name a few.
No-way Pat Riley said such things about rebounding, you might be thinking of George Karl who routinely had weak rebounding teams and trie to convince people of such things that one could make-up for weak rebounding by doing other things well.
The most important stat in basketball with the highest correlation to winning NBA games, field goal % differential
2013 Thunder 5.6%
2012 Thunder 4.4%
PT margin
2013 Thunder 9.21
2012 Thunder 6.2
Thunder improved from last year by a huge 1.2%, and they produced one of the best point margins in the regulr season in history becoming one of a handful of teams to be over 9 pts.
The Thunder are clearly without question better this year and the Heat would be as I already pointed out one of the weakest 65 game winners, in history Thunder are likely to beat the Heat in the finals and should be the favorite, you can get them at a premium price ....................
theclaw, lovin' these stats man & appreciate your input. unfortunately i'm not really big on stats when it comes to things like this. i predict from what i see and come to a conclusion in that manner. I'm an ex Miami Heat fan. been a fan since the 90's. i can recall Riley state something of that nature when it came to rebounding weaknesses heat have been experiencing for several seasons now. it's the reason why he hasn't really addressed their rebounding issues by acquiring a 'traditional' center like the way he likes.
Again, Miami toy w/ their opponents. They can flip a switch. officiating also comes into this, significantly imo. Again, i hope your right and i'll be doing a jig if you are but i can't see any team beat miami. this is sterns cash cow right now.
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
2013 Miami got 47.6% rebounds
2012 Miami got 50.24%
No comparison to Miami's rebounding this year and last.
Since 1974 when the league started tracking offensive and defensive rebounding just 2 teams won the title with rebounding under 49.25. Many of the greatest players and greatest winners in history failed to win the title playing on a weak rebounding team, Bird, Magic and Jordan to name a few.
No-way Pat Riley said such things about rebounding, you might be thinking of George Karl who routinely had weak rebounding teams and trie to convince people of such things that one could make-up for weak rebounding by doing other things well.
The most important stat in basketball with the highest correlation to winning NBA games, field goal % differential
2013 Thunder 5.6%
2012 Thunder 4.4%
PT margin
2013 Thunder 9.21
2012 Thunder 6.2
Thunder improved from last year by a huge 1.2%, and they produced one of the best point margins in the regulr season in history becoming one of a handful of teams to be over 9 pts.
The Thunder are clearly without question better this year and the Heat would be as I already pointed out one of the weakest 65 game winners, in history Thunder are likely to beat the Heat in the finals and should be the favorite, you can get them at a premium price ....................
theclaw, lovin' these stats man & appreciate your input. unfortunately i'm not really big on stats when it comes to things like this. i predict from what i see and come to a conclusion in that manner. I'm an ex Miami Heat fan. been a fan since the 90's. i can recall Riley state something of that nature when it came to rebounding weaknesses heat have been experiencing for several seasons now. it's the reason why he hasn't really addressed their rebounding issues by acquiring a 'traditional' center like the way he likes.
Again, Miami toy w/ their opponents. They can flip a switch. officiating also comes into this, significantly imo. Again, i hope your right and i'll be doing a jig if you are but i can't see any team beat miami. this is sterns cash cow right now.
Hey 3Ball, been following you for awhile, thanks for your picks. You still liking Boston even tho the reverse line movement to +7.5? Im liking Boston too but the line movement making it hard for me to pull the trigger.
it's the 1st games of the 1st round. teams will be feeling each other out wich is why i am liking the dogs. but go w/ your gut. i already made my plays.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rskim2k1:
Hey 3Ball, been following you for awhile, thanks for your picks. You still liking Boston even tho the reverse line movement to +7.5? Im liking Boston too but the line movement making it hard for me to pull the trigger.
it's the 1st games of the 1st round. teams will be feeling each other out wich is why i am liking the dogs. but go w/ your gut. i already made my plays.
3ball...just curious what your rationale is for suddenly betting the dogs after playing favs for the season?
best of luck to you...
faves was for that specific portion of the season where elite teams do what their supposed to do and that's win against weaker, lower seeded or non seeded teams to gain good positionning for the playoffs. that's all over now and we're entering a totally different part of the season where the best go against the best. different atmosphere, different situation all together. again, as stated above teams will be feeling each other out in these first games. i like dogs here.
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Quote Originally Posted by avignonfr:
3ball...just curious what your rationale is for suddenly betting the dogs after playing favs for the season?
best of luck to you...
faves was for that specific portion of the season where elite teams do what their supposed to do and that's win against weaker, lower seeded or non seeded teams to gain good positionning for the playoffs. that's all over now and we're entering a totally different part of the season where the best go against the best. different atmosphere, different situation all together. again, as stated above teams will be feeling each other out in these first games. i like dogs here.
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