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#1 Posted: 7/5/2012 11:50:50 PM
The Rockets cut Jeremy Lin to bring in Samuel Dalembert. (Count -1 PG)
Made a little sense since they had two very good ones in Lowry and Dragic.
On draft night they traded Dalembert for some spare parts on the Bucks roster to move from the 14th pick to the 12th pick. (What you cut Lin for, a player who is now a mini-star, is now gone.)
Yesterday, they let Goran Dragic sign with the Suns and got nothing. (keeping count you are down to one point guard in Lowry and -2PG's).
Today, they traded Lowry to the Raptors for a conditional future first rounder and Gary Forbes??? (That's THREE PG's who are either in their early or mid-twenties that are emerging and all would be highly coveted by other teams as their contracts speak to that are gone as of today!)
To make matters worse, they then go and offer a heavily backloaded contract to the guy they cut at the beginning of the season in Lin, with the Knicks having a 0% of not matching.
The Rockets likely starting point guard next season after they lost three very, very good emerging young ones in one year: A broken Shaun Livingston!!!??
Holy garbage! What the hell just happened to this team!!!
Who here is a Rockets fan that would put up with this garbage!? They just gutted one of the most talented young spots in the league in one year!
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#2 Posted: 7/5/2012 11:58:40 PM |
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#3 Posted: 7/6/2012 12:14:37 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:
You make a great case there, scal. I wonder how much input Keven McHale had in all of this. Rockets gutting the team to make room for D. Howard? Otherwise clinically insane sounds too kind as no way would Howard want to play for a team without a true point guard. He's made that very clear.
I know Lowry doesn't get along with McHale but if that's the case, keep Dragic!!! And if you can't, get rid of McHale! Dragic played out of his mind at the end of the year and Lowry is excellent at the point.
Howard will not sign with Houston. If they get him, (which is highly unlikely since the 3 draft picks they would have used in a trade are now chosen for them, not Orlando,) they'll have him for one year and he'll walk. I really think they just threw about 5 years of potential playoff basketball out the window gutting their team like this! And for what? What does the future now look like in Houston??? |
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#4 Posted: 7/6/2012 12:37:50 AM With their current draft picks, this Rockets team is littered with forwards.
Looks like they'll give the Sac'to Kings a run for the cellar in the West to me. Maybe that's not really a fair comparison as SAC has got some young nucleus to work with, with the drafting of Thomas Robinson to pair up with Cousins, Tyreke, and Isiah Thomas. |
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#5 Posted: 7/6/2012 1:55:03 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine: Let's go over what has transpired with this team's point guards since the beginning of the season.
The Rockets cut Jeremy Lin to bring in Samuel Dalembert. (Count -1 PG)
On draft night they traded Dalembert for some spare parts on the Bucks roster to move from the 14th pick to the 12th pick. (What you cut Lin for, a player who is now a mini-star, is now gone.)
Holy garbage! What the hell just happened to this team!!!
You missed this one...........
Then they offered a sorry behind backup center from Chicago named Omer Asik max money..............which Chicago will NEVER match (3 years $25.1 million)..........this guy has hand like a butterfinger and offensive ability worse than  Jon Koncak
At least Dalembert is good both offensively and defensively.  |
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#6 Posted: 7/6/2012 2:01:45 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine: Let's go over what has transpired with this team's point guards since the beginning of the season.
Yesterday, they let Goran Dragic sign with the Suns and got nothing. (keeping count you are down to one point guard in Lowry and -2PG's).
Holy garbage! What the hell just happened to this team!!!
Sorry you missed this one also............
Last year they trade away a very good point guard named Aaron Brooks to Phoenix for Goran Dragic  |
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#7 Posted: 7/6/2012 2:05:33 AM Here is another clinically insane trade that you are going to laugh also................
So in 2006, the Houston Rockets got Shane Battier to Memphis for a player name Rudy happy.
Then last year, they trade Shane Battier back to Memphis for a player named Hasheem Thabeet.
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#8 Posted: 7/6/2012 2:09:54 AM Then they almost gutted the whole team for Pau Gasol who luckily the trade was stopped by Stern.
I like to know who is the general manager is for the team because I want his job. |
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#9 Posted: 7/6/2012 3:05:51 AM |
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#10 Posted: 7/6/2012 12:14:57 PM
I'm a Knicks fan and even I think JLin doesn't deserve the contract based on his basketball skills. However, he should get some of the money that NYKnicks, MSG, and sporting goods made from Linsanity. $29 million dollars made in NY for just him alone! Dude, this guy's salary was only $720k!
HOU put NYK in a bad place by overpricing him. Let's see if NYKnicks would match it. JKidd is a great teacher for JLin so NYKnicks should see it at this angle.
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#11 Posted: 7/6/2012 12:19:06 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by dimeplayer68:
Sorry you missed this one also............
Last year they trade away a very good point guard named Aaron Brooks to Phoenix for Goran Dragic
Yes, and this year Dragic goes to Suns...... WTF?
But hey, Houston is not the worst. LOOK AT DALLAS!! LAST YEAR: LOST CHANDLER, BUTLER, AND BARREA. THIS YEAR: LOST TERRY, JKIDD. I have no idea why Dirk is still there........
Houston is rebuilding. You'd seen their amount of picks from this year's draft. They are focused to rebuilding. It's gonna be 2-3 years before this team resurfaces again.
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#12 Posted: 7/6/2012 2:08:07 PM |
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#13 Posted: 7/7/2012 11:28:27 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by dimeplayer68:
Sorry you missed this one also............
Last year they trade away a very good point guard named Aaron Brooks to Phoenix for Goran Dragic
Excellent point.
That is FOUR very good, emerging or serviceable PG's the Rockets have now basically discarded in about a year and a half. It's amazing. |
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#14 Posted: 7/7/2012 11:30:02 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
McHale is not behind these moves. He basically said that they wanted to take their 1st round picks this year and go after a veteran. In his words, "that didn't work." Sounds like he likes their draft picks, but I'm guessing he HATES the balance as far as the roster goes....it doesn't have any.
He is behind the Lowry trade and it's well known he and Lowry don't get along.
That will cause them to potentially start Shaun Livingston at the point sometime this year. That is a disaster waiting to happen and a team shouldn't value an unproven head coach over a more than proven point guard. |
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#15 Posted: 7/7/2012 11:31:26 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikado:
I feel sorry for the Houston fans out there. The management has lost touch with reality getting rid of Lowry and Dragic. It would be a strange twist of irony if the team that first cut Lin signed him to $30 million. The Knicks will likely let him go, I don't believe they are that stupid. He was a good story line for the media, but his play was horrendous most of the time. While he won some games without Melo and Amare that initially brought him the media attention, lets not forget those games were to the low lifes of the Eastern Conference. He does not see the floor well and is a liability at the point being as turnover prone as he is. I am not trying to knock on the guy, but who really cares where Jeremy Lin goes? He will be on the bench in twenty games and the team that signs him will start to look for another idiot team to take on a ridiculous contract (ex. Dan Gadzuric). Like I said, I really feel bad for Houston. The way they ended playing basketball last season was horrible, but the moves they are making this offseason will decimate them for seasons to come.
0% chance the Knicks let him go which makes this all the worse. That I guarantee you. |
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#16 Posted: 7/7/2012 11:32:54 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Paidonjok:
Yes, and this year Dragic goes to Suns...... WTF?
But hey, Houston is not the worst. LOOK AT DALLAS!! LAST YEAR: LOST CHANDLER, BUTLER, AND BARREA. THIS YEAR: LOST TERRY, JKIDD. I have no idea why Dirk is still there........
Houston is rebuilding. You'd seen their amount of picks from this year's draft. They are focused to rebuilding. It's gonna be 2-3 years before this team resurfaces again.
Dallas gets a pass IMO. They have one of the two championship rings the past two years. Knicks don't have one and it's been almost 40 years. Houston will easily pass 20 years without a ring after this roster gutting. |
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#17 Posted: 7/7/2012 10:16:52 PM |
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#18 Posted: 7/8/2012 10:00:33 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Jelax: Well said on all fronts Scal . I hope Livingston has a good season though. |
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#20 Posted: 7/9/2012 9:57:33 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by sugalboy: scal: just to add fuel to the fire, the rockets also let go of a great point guard with the name of vassilus spanoulis from greece... (i forgot what happened to him) until i saw him this week lighting it up in the fiba olympic qualifiers...
Spanoulis was offered more money to play in Europe |
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#21 Posted: 7/9/2012 11:07:58 AM
Seriously, they have 8 power forwards and no center right now. Unless Morey is attempting some crazy moneyball statistics thing where he thinks he can out-tempo teams by ditching the center position, then this would appear to be the worst offseason I can remember a team having.
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#22 Posted: 7/9/2012 3:52:17 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by sugalboy: scal: just to add fuel to the fire, the rockets also let go of a great point guard with the name of vassilus spanoulis from greece... (i forgot what happened to him) until i saw him this week lighting it up in the fiba olympic qualifiers...
Uhh..the Rox traded Spanoulis to San Antonio for Louis Scola. Spanoulis has yet to play for an NBA team since the trade. Rox made out like bandits on that trade.
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#23 Posted: 7/9/2012 10:52:45 PM |
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#24 Posted: 7/12/2012 11:28:42 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by DannySatan:
Morey had the worst draft, too. A day after you trade for two power forwards, you draft two more? Last time I checked, they still need to see if last year's lottery pick, another PF, is gonna pan out.
Seriously, they have 8 power forwards and no center right now. Unless Morey is attempting some crazy moneyball statistics thing where he thinks he can out-tempo teams by ditching the center position, then this would appear to be the worst offseason I can remember a team having.
Morey just got rid of a forward though.
His star forward with a really solid contract by amnestying Luis Scola.
All with no guarantees of any kind from Howard or Bynum who both want no part of that city.
It's amazing what he did to this team. He just jettisoned a really solid forward for NOTHING.
So now we have the following players off the team in a year and half:
Brooks Lin Dragic Lowry Scola Camby
What did Morey get in return to replace all of those in the end?
A conditional #1 from the Raptors, Gary Forbes, Jerome Jordan, Toney Douglas and Josh Harrelson.
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#25 Posted: 7/13/2012 5:48:37 AM Houston considering amnestying Scola
To clear the books for Dwight Howard
Will their leadership screw up --- amnesty Scola
then get no deal done with the "trigger-cautious" magic management?
Houston will then become a casualty of the dwightmare sweepstakes.
Hopefully, Houston management will proceed with caution before amnestying a solid player like Scola |
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