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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:23:37 PM
box guy is hittin everything and then passes 3 str8 times down stretch
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:25:06 PM
I'm not a Lebron guy, but man it's a all-star game.  Leave the guy alone, LOL...
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:27:12 PM
i know but when lebron is hittin all those 3 bfor now starts passin in clutch
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:33:54 PM
Why does everyone hate Lebron ?  
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:34:27 PM
the queen is not clutch, never has never will be.  
surprise surprise atl is defending him, but let it be jeremy lin or tim tebow and he would be calling them out.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:37:55 PM
ok so I am from cleveland, so cleveland fan...and this was the first time since the decision that i was rooting and impressed by lebron, and then he choked and all that hatred i had for him came back. 
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:45:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KobezKing:

box guy is hittin everything and then passes 3 str8 times down stretch

That's so true, He looked scared after that last commercial break. Even Kobe was talking to him like Man what are you doing taking the ball out. You should be taking the last shot!
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:02:35 PM
i seen that too on the play bfor inbounds after he turned it over kobe said to him wtf shoot that
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:07:03 PM

When is everyone going to learn....LBJ is not the "shooter"

he is not the closer...but he is the best player in the NBA

The two are totally different and not synonymous.

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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:24:35 PM
lebron only gibbs 3 quarters. we all know that already
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:28:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ct1016:

When is everyone going to learn....LBJ is not the "shooter"

he is not the closer...but he is the best player in the NBA

The two are totally different and not synonymous.



I'd give that title to KD,

killer instinct.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:39:09 PM
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I'd give that title to KD,

killer instinct.

Define best player.....I believe the best players and/or dominat players can control or impact the game in multiple categories.

The key categories are

1) points....this is the one that everyone gives too much weight to, but there are other areas to impact the game other than pts scored

2) assists

3) rebounds

4)  leadership

5)  tempo (control the flow of the game)

For years...plural years....LBJ has led the league in pts, rebs and assts.....

We all know he plays point forward....controls tempo....and has the ball in his hand leading and facilitating offense for Cavs and now Miami

Top that off with he is setting a NBA record for regular season efficiency....right now @ 32.4 PER...noone...not Bird, Magic, MJ....not Kobe, Shaq, Barkley...not the Mailman, not Nash, not Olajuwon....Robinson or Duncan.....no MVP ...no NBA legend...has ever had a PER over 32 during a season.

If LBJ keeps his rountine pace of 28 ppg 8 rebs 7 assts during the minutes played...he will break that Wilt Chamberlain record.

He sets that record and KD is the best player --- why?  b/c he leads the nba in scoring?  I say no...it is easily LBJ for the reasons I wrote and actually more

 

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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:43:03 PM
when u say leadership u mean how he always leads his teamto collapse in 4th quarter if thats what u mean by leadership then ur right.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:51:25 PM
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when u say leadership u mean how he always leads his teamto collapse in 4th quarter if thats what u mean by leadership then ur right.

yes, LBJ is a better leader than KD.

I did not say clutch....I did not say pure shooter...or better shooter (even though LBJ does shoot a higher %...LBJ 55%...KD 51%]

KD does do some things better than LBJ....but LBJ does more things better than KD.

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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:54:13 PM
i agree hes better than kd right now but kd is 23 has 4 more years to get where lebron is now
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Posted: 2/26/2012 11:54:46 PM
and no 1 said lebron is great he is just a choker and disapears the bigger the moment
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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:01:28 AM
as a lebron hater, i gotta give credit where its due. LBJ > KD35.

as much as you dont want to admit it, kd is not a leader. he plays 2nd fiddle to russell freaking westbrook. he allows his point guard to take twice as many shot attempts as him when he is an all star. he doesnt demand the ball. he doesnt take on the leader role. 

last i checked, kd has no rings and hasnt even made it to the finals yet. 
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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:03:28 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ct1016:

Define best player.....I believe the best players and/or dominat players can control or impact the game in multiple categories.

The key categories are

1) points....this is the one that everyone gives too much weight to, but there are other areas to impact the game other than pts scored

2) assists

3) rebounds

4)  leadership

5)  tempo (control the flow of the game)

For years...plural years....LBJ has led the league in pts, rebs and assts.....

We all know he plays point forward....controls tempo....and has the ball in his hand leading and facilitating offense for Cavs and now Miami

Top that off with he is setting a NBA record for regular season efficiency....right now @ 32.4 PER...noone...not Bird, Magic, MJ....not Kobe, Shaq, Barkley...not the Mailman, not Nash, not Olajuwon....Robinson or Duncan.....no MVP ...no NBA legend...has ever had a PER over 32 during a season.

If LBJ keeps his rountine pace of 28 ppg 8 rebs 7 assts during the minutes played...he will break that Wilt Chamberlain record.

He sets that record and KD is the best player --- why?  b/c he leads the nba in scoring?  I say no...it is easily LBJ for the reasons I wrote and actually more

 



First, Kobe leads the league in scoring.

KD is a leader and a finisher. darn the stats, this one is about who you would give the ball to if it was all on the line.

At his age, this guy is doing everything that is expected and more.

Why did they lose to Dallas in the WCF?

Westbrook.

I respect your point of view but KD is the best player in my mind.
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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:16:42 AM
Jeremy Lin   >  LeBron James 

(In clutch situations)

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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:19:07 AM
Bill russell and wilt and mj top 3 of all time


Magic and bird   Kobe Kareem and Oscar robertson and shaq follow
Durant will be on this list when his career is over.. 
Lebron is great but he will always be number 2 that's why he signed with the heat, wade
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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:19:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PokerProErik:

Jeremy Lin   >  LeBron James 

(In clutch situations)


seriously? gtfo. good story, but idc about lbj's repertoire for "choking". im sure NBA teams will want the ball in his hands. 
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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:25:35 AM
Lebron is in the category of Scottie pippen and Karl Malone And Charles Barkley 
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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:27:24 AM
PokerProErik is an asian dude with 'All in Lin' t-shirt.



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Posted: 2/27/2012 12:40:16 AM
Lebron has a mental block about taking the game winner. He is a natural passer. He sees pressure and dumps the ball its just what he is good at. 

Unfortunately for him , in order to be able to close out NBA teams you need a guy to do what lebron does for 4 quarters, and then you need him to CLOSE OUT THE OTHER TEAM. 

West,Jordan, Bird, Johnson, Bryant all could do it. This kid just has not done it yet... in many many attempts. 

Durant is the best scorer going. 
Kobe is the best closer (No D anymore) 
and Lebron is the best overall player. 

If I had to take one, I would take Durant. 
You can run more plays for him, he doesn't need to dribble all the time, and he is much more humble. 
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Posted: 2/27/2012 7:35:56 AM
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First, Kobe leads the league in scoring.

KD is a leader and a finisher. darn the stats, this one is about who you would give the ball to if it was all on the line.

At his age, this guy is doing everything that is expected and more.

Why did they lose to Dallas in the WCF?

Westbrook.

I respect your point of view but KD is the best player in my mind.

In what way....media has coined the subjective finisher tag....that before 2003 (when LBJ came into the league...) never was talked about before now.

My theory is they did this for the very reason that you typed.....LBJ when it is all said and done...will have Hank Aaron type numbers across the board.

More career pts than Kobe and MJ for sure...and probably pass Kareeem

More career assists than Magic and Mark Jackson and probably finish in top 3 for sure (KD and Kobe no where on this list)

Top career rebounder @ small forward in NBA History

Top shot blocker in SF (or at worst top 3) in nba history....had the phrase chase down block coined after his always awesome , athletic and perfectly timed chase down blocks

Leads the NBA in efficiency (PER) again this season

Also has the best PER this season of all time....if he stays above 31.8....he is at 32.4...noone....not Bird, Magic, Malone....not MJ, not Kobe, Not shaq.....not havilichek, not barkely, not chamberlain nor J West.....and no not even KD35......has put up that kind of hostoric PER (which measures a players ability across all categories).....and what does the fans and media say trump that.......did he hit a buzzer beater...and did he close..

Also, LBJ has won more player of the week and month awards than any player in NBA history and he is only in year 9.

All that, and KD35 is better becuase he is a "supposedly" better shooter.....LBJ shoots 55%...KD shoots 51%

The media has smeared LBJ for years....but in about 3 to 4 years these SIK numbers that LBJ is putting up will not be able to be hidden by them or ignored and disregarded by the fans.

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