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#51 Posted: 2/3/2012 12:52:58 AM  |
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#52 Posted: 2/3/2012 4:48:35 AM So Portland is now 13-10 and 3-9 on the road

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#53 Posted: 2/3/2012 5:31:00 AM The only way portland can win the west is if they have home court advantage allthroughout. I cant see them going past the second round tbh.
OKC def POR 4-2
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#54 Posted: 2/3/2012 9:16:25 AM The west has already been won. They should just concentrate on basketball.
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#55 Posted: 2/9/2012 2:53:42 AM and now they aren't even winning at home

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#56 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:09:14 AM SB, Thanks for sharing your insight and great picks, too.
Please just ignore the haters... silence will be deafening!!  
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#57 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:19:55 AM I love SB 
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#58 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:23:27 AM The more i think about it, the better and better celtics at 22/1 look.
They can basically be the NYG of the NBA. Also heard some rumors about a rondo for Pau Gasol deal. Celtics are about to make a huge move very soon I can feel it. |
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#59 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:24:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Michfan15: The more i think about it, the better and better celtics at 22/1 look.
They can basically be the NYG of the NBA. Also heard some rumors about a rondo for Pau Gasol deal. Celtics are about to make a huge move very soon I can feel it. are you talking about celts to win the east or the title?
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#60 Posted: 2/9/2012 4:02:01 AM title...thinking long shots with a chip on their shoulder + veteran experience = celts |
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#61 Posted: 2/9/2012 4:03:22 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Michfan15:
title...thinking long shots with a chip on their shoulder + veteran experience = celts if you think they are gonna deal rondo, then I don't like that bet at all.
My opinion on Boston, is that they are not very good. Mediocre, really.
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#62 Posted: 2/9/2012 4:05:16 AM / and are you actually watching 11 games you dvred tonight...jesus #discipline #dedication for real |
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#63 Posted: 2/9/2012 4:12:25 AM ok if I wanted to make 1 solid wager, with hedging opportunity of course, I would absolutely go with memphis at 50/1...price will only get worse as they will hit eventual winning streak + randolph coming back...this team has potential to do work |
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#64 Posted: 2/9/2012 4:25:42 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Michfan15:
ok if I wanted to make 1 solid wager, with hedging opportunity of course, I would absolutely go with memphis at 50/1...price will only get worse as they will hit eventual winning streak + randolph coming back...this team has potential to do work yes, I've been watching the games.
Honestly, I don't think it's worth the wager on Memphis. Since the start of the season, I felt there would be some dropoff. I just think they had a short streak and I think it's all downhill from here.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

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#65 Posted: 2/9/2012 6:51:16 AM gotcha...good luck tmrw |
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#66 Posted: 2/9/2012 7:04:18 AM Clippers looked like the team until Billups was injured for the Season but they will get Kenyon Martin and will be tough to beat in half court. A couple of players to get back too so Clippers for me.
OKC really are overated. This team plays no defense and are not smart enough. Westbrook is nothing but an athlete playing B Ball and he has no brains.
San Antonio are savvy and are a shot. This team plays smart.
Prtland - lets see who gets injured next. Probably ALdridge and that will be good nite.
Houston - not bad but they are too inconsistent.
Denver - everyone needs to be healthy for them to win.
LA Lakers - never count Kobe out but you can count everyne else out because they are not good apart from maybe Bynum.
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#67 Posted: 2/9/2012 7:13:26 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Michfan15:
ok if I wanted to make 1 solid wager, with hedging opportunity of course, I would absolutely go with memphis at 50/1...price will only get worse as they will hit eventual winning streak + randolph coming back...this team has potential to do work
Just my 2 cents but I think the West will be won by Dallas, Spurs, or Denver. Dallas hasn't gotten their whole team healthy/together/everyone playing well at the same time-but that will come. Them and the Spurs are both 10 deep and have great coaching/veteran leadership. I wouldn't put a bet on OKC to win the west if I got +500. Quite frankly I think they are WORSE than they were last year-and Scott Brooks gets out coached in every big game they play in. Denver is probably the longest shot but if your looking for the best value they might be their team. They are at +4000 right now (for the title). Afflalo is one of the league's premier defenders when healthy and in shape-which he isn't yet. Also Wilson Chandler is going to be HUGE for them when he gets back. He is a good at everything but not great at anything kind of guy that can really help bring a team together. Gallinari is only supposed to miss 3 weeks to a month and I really think this team is going to make a big push after the all star break. I know ya didn't ask I'm just bored and up late and thought I would chime in.
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#68 Posted: 2/9/2012 7:21:21 AM Also smartbets I wonder if the Blazers will be active at the trade deadline? With them most likely not being able to sign both Batum and Wallace and with Crawford saying he is probably going to opt out after this year(he has a player option) they have quite a few attractive pieces they could move. I agree that this team now has no shot to win the West, even with home-court advantage. I do feel however, that 100% of their problem has been guard play-mostly PG play. Felton is fat and terrible and Crawford isn't a true PG. I don't know how they could do it but if they could go out and grab an above average "playmaking/ good at creating shots for others PG" they could make a big push and beat anyone. I think they have every single piece except a PG. Wonder if a Nolan Smith, Elliot Williams, 1st round pick, and Gerald Wallace for Nash and a bad contract would work.
You think if they get a PG they could contend?
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#69 Posted: 2/9/2012 2:22:48 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by swolesbee:
Just my 2 cents but I think the West will be won by Dallas, Spurs, or Denver. Dallas hasn't gotten their whole team healthy/together/everyone playing well at the same time-but that will come. Them and the Spurs are both 10 deep and have great coaching/veteran leadership. I wouldn't put a bet on OKC to win the west if I got +500. Quite frankly I think they are WORSE than they were last year-and Scott Brooks gets out coached in every big game they play in. Denver is probably the longest shot but if your looking for the best value they might be their team. They are at +4000 right now (for the title). Afflalo is one of the league's premier defenders when healthy and in shape-which he isn't yet. Also Wilson Chandler is going to be HUGE for them when he gets back. He is a good at everything but not great at anything kind of guy that can really help bring a team together. Gallinari is only supposed to miss 3 weeks to a month and I really think this team is going to make a big push after the all star break. I know ya didn't ask I'm just bored and up late and thought I would chime in.
I can agree with Denver. Should wait a week or two and hope the price gets better as they should drop a few games without Galo in the lineup. |
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#70 Posted: 2/9/2012 2:26:44 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by swolesbee:
Also smartbets I wonder if the Blazers will be active at the trade deadline? With them most likely not being able to sign both Batum and Wallace and with Crawford saying he is probably going to opt out after this year(he has a player option) they have quite a few attractive pieces they could move. I agree that this team now has no shot to win the West, even with home-court advantage. I do feel however, that 100% of their problem has been guard play-mostly PG play. Felton is fat and terrible and Crawford isn't a true PG. I don't know how they could do it but if they could go out and grab an above average "playmaking/ good at creating shots for others PG" they could make a big push and beat anyone. I think they have every single piece except a PG. Wonder if a Nolan Smith, Elliot Williams, 1st round pick, and Gerald Wallace for Nash and a bad contract would work.
You think if they get a PG they could contend?
depends who they could get, but honestly I don't think so. When yo lose a guy like Roy and then your entire style of play changes, it's just so difficult to change that overnight, in a shortened season and play better than you have before.
I just don't see it.
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#71 Posted: 2/9/2012 2:32:02 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by smartbets: wouldnt trust them either....westbrook has too much sand in his roast beef vagina |
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#72 Posted: 2/9/2012 2:46:38 PM Hawks to win East ...just wait till Horford comes back
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#73 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:10:26 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by smartbets:
depends who they could get, but honestly I don't think so. When yo lose a guy like Roy and then your entire style of play changes, it's just so difficult to change that overnight, in a shortened season and play better than you have before.
I just don't see it.
you keep dwelling on this pace of play/losing roy thing but seem to be forgetting the most important part about these Blazers: that's EXACTLY what cost them last year. Aside from Roy who was gimpy and Andre Miller who had floppy tits last season, the rest of this Blazer team is designed to play at a decent pace (not frenetic, but definitely not slow-it-the-f-down). Miller, who slowed pace about as much as a point guard could for a team on that Blazers squad, was what was holding them back. Their poor stretches in the Dallas series were mostly when he was on the floor and the Blazers went at a snail's pace. Aldridge, Batum, Wallace, Crawford, all those guys are better in a more uptempo system. Yeah it's producing very mixed results right now but that's expected when you put that team together with completely new guards/without a training camp and have to figure it out on the fly. There is nobody in the West who I'm fully confident that Portland can't beat with or without home court, and you constantly laughing about every road loss while conveniently never mentioning that they've also won in OKC comfortably without the last 2 minutes even factoring into the result shows some bias. The growing pains that come with assembling a team this hastily in this shortened season will show on the road more than anywhere, when the playoffs start I don't see a single team that will definitely handle them. If you are, please point that team out. Dallas with a 4th quarter lineup of Dirk-Kidd-Terry-Odom-Mahinmi? Denver with Gallinari-Nene-Lawson-Fernandez-Chandler? OKC with a point guard that has a negative basketball iq and a coach who can't even get Durant a higher usage rate than Westbrook? Clippers are really the only team that matches up extremely well with them, and they have the worst coach ever/ton of young guys who haven't been in the playoffs yet. If the playoffs started today the Blazers probably wouldn't win the west, but I have absolutely no idea how you could possibly believe that they have 100% no shot to win this mediocre conference 3 months from today. Of everybody I've watched so far in the west, their best ball is as good, if not better than any other west team's best ball.
Also, you have to remember that the Knicks were a 27-23 8 seed the year they made the finals. Wacky things may happen this strike-shortened year too. |
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#74 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:19:16 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by smartbets:
depends who they could get, but honestly I don't think so. When yo lose a guy like Roy and then your entire style of play changes, it's just so difficult to change that overnight, in a shortened season and play better than you have before.
I just don't see it.

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#75 Posted: 2/9/2012 3:42:55 PM lotta behind kissing going on around here ...what is this "smartbets" ATS record anyway? ..how did he do last year as well? ..thanks  |
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