no Star ever won a ring alone, so step off 'Bron's jock

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Posted: 6/3/2011 12:46:01 PM
is right
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Posted: 6/3/2011 12:57:08 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:

will you Mavs backers come in here and admit you were wrong when your team loses the finals??




yes i will try to be one of the first. and will you show up and admit that miami was overrrated? and did not deserve to win the east (rondo) injury
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How many threads did this guy bump last night when the Heat were up by 15..?
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Posted: 6/3/2011 1:12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sports2easy:

2004

Detroit pistons.. who was the star there ?

they surprised the whole world and trashed my beloved lakers in 5.

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD-TROIITTTT BASSSKKEETTBBALL!!

good point...

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Posted: 6/3/2011 2:13:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by seaweed:

A player who has never been pulled over for a DUI, or punched a fan, left his children, been busted with drugs or committed a crime continues to endure public abuse, all because of a silly 60-minute TV show

He is truly a polarizing figure in sports.

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   Don't like the guy because of his antics in game but you bring up the best points of picking a good guy from an ahole.
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Posted: 6/3/2011 2:28:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sadboy:

suck his person :) you know you want to



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Posted: 6/3/2011 2:37:01 PM

gridironguy, everything you are claiming here is wrong.  Everything.

1) As far as the Cavs are concerned, they are a completely different team, who lost their number 1 option, and then suffered a half a dozen different injuries.  Not to mention that they built that team with players attempting to compliment James.  They are not built to win in their current state.  Anytime a team loses its best player, combined with significant injuries, they are going to lose.  Bringing the Cavs franchise into this discussion is not reasonable.

2) Can you really call Parker and Ginobili stars in 2005?  Yeah they are great now, but they did not have the same impact then.

3) Who was Wade's second guy in 2006?  If you say Shaq, Walker, or Payton, this thread should be closed down immediately.

4) David Robinson was well past his prime when Duncan got his first title.  Robinson had his superstar years, before Duncan.  He literally wasn't even playing 30 minutes a game when Duncan won his first title. Look it up.

5) In 2004 there was no single star.  Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and Wallace were all great players.  None of them were consistent superstars or Olympic caliber players.

6) Maybe Dirk Nowitski in 2011?  We will see.

I understand you are trying to argue Lebron's greatness, but your arguments themselves are very unintelligent.

Lebron James is a great player, we all know this.  But he is so overhyped past his true ability. Wade already won a title on his own.  Wade is the superman, Lebron is the sidekick.  If Lebron wanted to be superman he needed to stay with a franchise and build around himself, exactly like Dirk did.  He can't jump ship and go play with one of the top 5 players in the league, who has already won a title.

Lebron will never, ever reach the status of Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, or Wade, because Lebron had to create an unprecented all star trio to potentially get his title.  They may win a title this year, Lebron may win the MVP even, but he will still not be in the same class of the all time greats.  Sorry.

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Posted: 6/3/2011 2:47:49 PM
No star left his team to go to another team to win a title.
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Posted: 6/3/2011 3:39:07 PM

Let's not forget the very same thing happened in Boston a few years back.  Resigned Pierce, went after Ray and KG. 

Why is this Miami team any different?

KG bailed on Minnesota?

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Posted: 6/3/2011 3:40:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

No star left his team to go to another team to win a title.

KG did

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Posted: 6/3/2011 3:44:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by happyshine:

All the stars have someone to play with, yes ! But, also none of the star player left their team to join the other stars.

I've never heard " Superman " move in spiderman's house and batman join them later on......

This's typical " If u can't beat them, join them. " theroy

 

I'll say it again KG.  Allen too.

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Posted: 6/3/2011 3:46:08 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by sports2easy:

2004

Detroit pistons.. who was the star there ?

they surprised the whole world and trashed my beloved lakers in 5.

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD-TROIITTTT BASSSKKEETTBBALL!!

Sorry but that was a  

 

 

The sun shines on a dogs behind every now and then. 

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Posted: 6/3/2011 3:48:24 PM
Man look all that cleveland garbage, im from cleveland we did not just get our lunch handed to us because of lebron, we also lost all our size in the middle as well varejo season ending injury z and shaq gone to free agency, nedded  to rebuild so got rid of delonte west so we are talking about 4 contributors from a 60 win team departed, lebron obviously was the big loss but even at the beggining of the season before everyone dropped like flies the cavs were competitive and it was not just lebron!
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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:23:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

Let's not forget the very same thing happened in Boston a few years back.  Resigned Pierce, went after Ray and KG. 

Why is this Miami team any different?

KG bailed on Minnesota?


I didn't know KG had his own special on ESPN to announce he's leaving. I didn't know KG, Allen, and Pierce did something similar to THIS And let's not forget the Wolves actually got something KG

@ comparing what Lebron did to KG.
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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:30:58 PM
Wade is Superman. LeBron is the sidekick.


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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:34:44 PM
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Originally Posted by marnypoly:


I didn't know KG had his own special on ESPN to announce he's leaving. I didn't know KG, Allen, and Pierce did something similar to THIS And let's not forget the Wolves actually got something KG

@ comparing what Lebron did to KG.

Does it really bother you Lebron had a show on ESPN?  Let me guess, it bothered you so much you tuned in yourself. 

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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:38:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

Does it really bother you Lebron had a show on ESPN?  Let me guess, it bothered you so much you tuned in yourself. 

Actually we had a pretty entertaining thread going on here while "The Decision" was on...

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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:40:00 PM
I watched goodone because I fully expected him to say:

"I'm going to take my talents to.... Cleveland OHIO! I'M COMING BACK HOME AND IM GONNA BRING A CHAMPIONSHIP TO THE CITY OF CLEVELAND"


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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:45:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

I'll say it again KG.  Allen too.

As I remember, KG & Allen got trade by their teams. It's different than the star player walked away their team in the end of the contract.

I also believe LBJ & Bosh have both sending their old team wrong signal (looks like they may stay there) so their team won't get anything back from the way they left.

I'll never believe Bosh doesn't know where he wants to go at the end of his contract . He simply doesn't want the raptors management to know so they can trade him before the deadline to get something in return. If that's the way u re going to treat the team/city who draft u, give u chances to play pro ball, take care of u when u re injury.......how u expect ppl to respect them. I really don't care how many championship they re going to win.

 

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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:51:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

Does it really bother you Lebron had a show on ESPN?  Let me guess, it bothered you so much you tuned in yourself. 



Well apparently it bothered NBA fans as his approval rating plummeted faster than wall street.

Also Allen is one of the classiest guys in the league. These guys are all douchebags.

I know you're just trying to be "different" with your opinion on the Heat but it's a losing fight man.
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Posted: 6/3/2011 10:09:34 PM
Who did Hakeem have with him when he was his two rings?
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QUOTE Originally Posted by thorpe:

Who did Hakeem have with him when he was his two rings?


wtf are you talking about? hakeem had:

otis thorpe, all star
kenny the jet smith
sam cassell
vernon maxwell
mario elie
robert horry
then clyde drexler

the Rockets had GREAT teams around olajuwon when they won 2 rings
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those of you MAVS backers who are talkin garbage, will be nowhere to be found if your team loses this series, i guarantee that, you're not man enough to come back in here if your boys lose 
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