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Author: [NBA Betting] Topic: All Hail The King! LeBron James.
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Posted: 5/21/2011 11:23:19 AM
Just want to add...Please let's not forget about the greatness of Dwyane Wade. He is the best player in the world (or at least tied with his teammate). Even more reason to love Lebron, seeking out to play with the best player. Anyone who hates on "The Decision" learn something here: LEBRON JAMES IS THE FIRST ATHLETE IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS TO STICK IT TO THE OWNER AND FORM HIS OWN TEAM. He gave players in all of professional sports great power by his selfless move. He essentially said, Dan Gilbert if you want to own me like a slave and not give me and good players to win with, I'm leaving because I just want to just win baby, win. Don't believe me, go ask any player in the league, his fellow union members. You can learn something about business and how unions work...

Lebron made every effort to stay, but all the Cavs gave him to work with was Mo Williams and Antwain Jamison. Haslem and Miller are better than those two and they come off the bench. Lol. 

Lebron is loyal to anyone who argues against me. Like Pac says, "Loyal to the Game"
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Posted: 5/21/2011 11:36:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 3WadeStarted_MU:

Just want to add...Please let's not forget about the greatness of Dwyane Wade. He is the best player in the world (or at least tied with his teammate). Even more reason to love Lebron, seeking out to play with the best player. Anyone who hates on "The Decision" learn something here: LEBRON JAMES IS THE FIRST ATHLETE IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS TO STICK IT TO THE OWNER AND FORM HIS OWN TEAM. He gave players in all of professional sports great power by his selfless move. He essentially said, Dan Gilbert if you want to own me like a slave and not give me and good players to win with, I'm leaving because I just want to just win baby, win. Don't believe me, go ask any player in the league, his fellow union members. You can learn something about business and how unions work...

Lebron made every effort to stay, but all the Cavs gave him to work with was Mo Williams and Antwain Jamison. Haslem and Miller are better than those two and they come off the bench. Lol. 

Lebron is loyal to anyone who argues against me. Like Pac says, "Loyal to the Game"


That's horseshit. If he really wanted to go somewhere because he wanted to "just win", he would have gone to Chicago.


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Posted: 5/21/2011 11:47:30 AM


Quite a collection of morons we have here.
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Posted: 5/21/2011 1:14:35 PM

Lets see see him win a title first O.K......Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird have the titles to back up their "GREATNESS" if you will.

I think he will get some but I want to see it.

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Posted: 5/21/2011 1:21:29 PM
I wouldn't hail to LeBron James if he and I were the last (2) people left on earth and my life depended on it. No matter how you slice it, LeBron James is a self-centered idiot with absolutely no class whatsoever. 
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:04:11 PM
LeBron James is a 6'8", 250 lbs. "Point Forward" who can shoot with range, pass, and defend. 

2011 Playoff AVGs: 25.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 5.0 APG. 

At least I can understand the criticism about his personality and some of his off the court choices including "The Decision" debacle, but I know you're a flat-out LeBron hater when you have absolutely nothing good to say about the guy.

LeBron is a monster. 
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:07:56 PM
FYI: Bad timing for Derrick Rose to do his Russell Westbrook impersonation.

He needs to understand that he can't just blow by these guys and find different ways to attack the defense. They're keying in on him and he hasn't figured out a new solution.

He can't get around Wade/LeBron switching the pick 'n roll. But, sounds like he's just going to keep going at it the same way.

What's the definition of insanity again?

Good luck, Rosey.
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:09:08 PM
Lebron could put up 40 - 15 -12 every night, but if he can't hit clutch shots when it counts it doesn't matter.

Other than a lucky bank shot vs Orlando 2 years ago, and that 25 straight vs the Pistons (which was extremely impressive) he has never really had too many clutch moments.

Personally if a game was on the line and I could pick one NBA player to take the last shot there about at least 5 guys in the league (Durant, Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Manu) who I would rather have shooting the ball than LeBrick.  Are all those players better than Lebron?  No, but they have proven to be more clutch when it counts.  Any serious bball fan understands that Lebron simply has not proven that he is clutch and if you are not clutch it would be foolish to suggest that you are the best in the league


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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:11:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarahJPhilli:

LeBron James is a 6'8", 250 lbs. "Point Forward" who can shoot with range, pass, and defend. 

2011 Playoff AVGs: 25.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 5.0 APG. 

At least I can understand the criticism about his personality and some of his off the court choices including "The Decision" debacle, but I know you're a flat-out LeBron hater when you have absolutely nothing good to say about the guy.

LeBron is a monster. 
Stats don't mean nothing when you don't have the killer instinct! When there is only one possession left in the game he is scared to shoot.  He is nowhere near MJ, Kobe , and Magic and will never be close!
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:13:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by EddieGordo:

Lebron could put up 40 - 15 -12 every night, but if he can't hit clutch shots when it counts it doesn't matter.

Other than a lucky bank shot vs Orlando 2 years ago, and that 25 straight vs the Pistons (which was extremely impressive) he has never really had too many clutch moments.

Personally if a game was on the line and I could pick one NBA player to take the last shot there about at least 5 guys in the league (Durant, Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Manu) who I would rather have shooting the ball than LeBrick.  Are all those players better than Lebron?  No, but they have proven to be more clutch when it counts.  Any serious bball fan understands that Lebron simply has not proven that he is clutch and if you are not clutch it would be foolish to suggest that you are the best in the league




2011 Clutch Performances:

Game 5 against Boston this season?

Game 2 against Chicago this season?

His resume is currently in progress.
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:22:03 PM
Why does LeBron have to be the next Jordan to be considered a success?

Holding him, and anyone else, to the Jordan standard is unrealistic.

He even admits it himself that his game is more comparable to Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson.

LeBron's official coronation is in 1 month. I hope you attend.
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:23:34 PM
Ok I will grant you that he was very clutch against Boston that game, he iced it himself hands down.  Good point

But Chicago scored ONE basket the entire last 7 minutes of that last game.  That was Chicago losing the game, not Lebron winning it.

For as many playoff games as he has played he does not have that many incredible performances as one would believe though.  He simply doesn't.  Not saying he won't have some amazing performances in the next few weeks, but you can count on one hand the number of playoff games in his career that he has totally dominated in the clutch
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:24:17 PM
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, boys. Good debate though for the most part.

Good luck tonight if you decide to bet the Dallas/OKC game.

SJP
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Posted: 5/21/2011 3:33:32 PM

lebron james has been a local kid I watched since high school at 15....

a ton of talent...

but knows he does not belong in the winners circle...

he will always self destruct....just like mommy....

its sad actually....many great folks tried to help him but his ghetto street lifestyle returns and boom .....self destruction time....

the miami move will blow up in 3 years.....

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Posted: 5/21/2011 5:54:21 PM
He has to win a title, only then, can we call him the best player world. 

Like you said, just gotta wait another month or so


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Posted: 5/21/2011 5:55:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rpuck1:

lebron james has been a local kid I watched since high school at 15....

a ton of talent...

but knows he does not belong in the winners circle...

he will always self destruct....just like mommy....

its sad actually....many great folks tried to help him but his ghetto street lifestyle returns and boom .....self destruction time....

the miami move will blow up in 3 years.....


oh imagine that, a hater from Cleveland or Akron or wherever, I'm shocked I tell you!
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Posted: 5/21/2011 6:02:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:



Quite a collection of morons we have here.


the smartest comment i've read on this entire thread.
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Posted: 5/21/2011 6:07:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:

Varejao's role was not to score. Obviously you should know that. He was the energy guy that did the intangibles just like Horace Grant did for MJ.

Let me ask you this, if Lebron is the best, why didn't he convince Wade to join him in Cleveland instead? Having said that, Lebron is easily top 3 imo. The best does not tuck his tail and run when the going gets tough.





BTW, this thread makes me sick.....

and to the OP, Lebron was labeled a quitter when he obviously quit DURING games in last years playoffs
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Posted: 5/21/2011 6:13:17 PM
Anderson Varejao is also NOT Horace Grant.

My goodness.
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Anderson Varejao is also NOT Horace Grant.

My goodness.

So Varejao doesn't rebound, play defense, and make a lot of the hussle plays that allow your "King" to succeed?

 

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QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:

So Varejao doesn't rebound, play defense, and make a lot of the hussle plays that allow your "King" to succeed?

 



15 and 10 VS 6 and 8?

A guy that can stretch the defense with a midrange jumpshot versus a guy with no range?

C'mon. Anderson Varejao is not Horace Grant.

You can hate LeBron, but don't insult Horace Grant in the process.
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15 and 10 VS 6 and 8?

A guy that can stretch the defense with a midrange jumpshot versus a guy with no range?

C'mon. Anderson Varejao is not Horace Grant.

You can hate LeBron, but don't insult Horace Grant in the process.

I see. You're all about the stats.

And I do NOT hate Lebron. I mentioned in an earlier post that he's easily top 3. Having said that your "love" professed for your "King" is stretching it.

There is only one "King" in MIA and that is Wade. Your annointed one realized that and joined him.  

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QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:

I see. You're all about the stats.

And I do NOT hate Lebron. I mentioned in an earlier post that he's easily top 3. Having said that your "love" professed for your "King" is stretching it.

There is only one "King" in MIA and that is Wade. Your annointed one realized that and joined him.  



I'm all about stats if necessary. If you were to walk out on the street and tell people Anderson Varejao has the same value as Horace Grant, sane people would laugh at you. I know you'd laugh at this statement also if you hadn't already dug your own grave with it.

Wade is a great. I agree.

LeBron is The King.
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I'm all about stats if necessary. If you were to walk out on the street and tell people Anderson Varejao has the same value as Horace Grant, sane people would laugh at you. I know you'd laugh at this statement also if you hadn't already dug your own grave with it.

Wade is a great. I agree.

LeBron is The King.

Their roles are near identical. Sane people that knows the game would also laugh at your statement of "Lebron is the King." Wait a minute, the majority of knowledgeable posters here already have.

Wade = Jordan

Lebron = Pippen

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Posted: 5/21/2011 7:24:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:

Their roles are near identical. Sane people that knows the game would also laugh at your statement of "Lebron is the King." Wait a minute, the majority of knowledgeable posters here already have.

Wade = Jordan

Lebron = Pippen



People who hate LeBron can't see his greatness. It is what it is.

Horace Grant was better than Anderson Varejao will ever be. That's neither here nor there though.

We are all entitled to our opinions and it seems as though ours differ.

Best of luck to you on your plays.
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