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#576 Posted: 2/3/2011 2:45:36 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Delino349:
and lastly, if you run off guys that lotsa people in here believe in like Tin or Humble or whoever, you'll only be hated and have your time on here be made to be MISERABLE by so many who follow them. Not like your gonna gain supporters. So stop being that fat douchebag kid who has the only basketball at the court and wont let the talented kids use it to play....and who goes home. Share the fuckin wealth and grow the darn up.
this is complete nonsense. be hated by who? you and 4 other sheep who don't give a garbage if the guy is fudging numbers to the forum so that it appears that he has a winning night no matter what? |
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#578 Posted: 2/3/2011 3:47:21 PM
There is a girl in the daily babe section that says she is 34 24 35 and is 5'6" tall..
Bullshit. mikado get on this but shes a fraud |
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#579 Posted: 2/3/2011 3:49:55 PM
we like money and we are winning some meney in this forum
thanks guys
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#580 Posted: 2/3/2011 3:51:25 PM
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#581 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:09:26 PM Kapono, I hear ya man, and I respect your non abusive way in doing so, and in your replies. But if there is an issue, if you truly have, why not just write to him solo, or figure some other mode out? Why get in the way of those that really believe in the picks and feel they are winning money from them? Why would you guys come in here and mock, or constantly berate? Like, we arent doing that in yours? I dont think they do that to you?
And really, my take is this man...we talkin honesty?? Honesty? We talkin honesty??? lol...of course channel Iverson when doin that but really, like, honesty? Everyone is a gambler lookin to make as much as they can...thats it. Im not here to fall in love with some honest capper. Im here to read and learn and develop my own takes. And when my fingers hit the keyboard and press the numbers and then hit enter...its MY DOING. So if someone wanst to lie about numbers. Sensational. Someone wants to miss units. Fantastic. Someone wants to hype records, God Bless em.
As long as when they say, take the Mavs and the Mavs win, i really dont care one bit how much they or anyone else bet. How much they won or lost. I just care about me.
Anyway man, good luck, you seem like a good guy... |
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#582 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:11:33 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikado:
I'm really not sure why people are so adamant defending Tin if they won't even take the time to realize the truth for themselves.
Lazy sheep.
Sounds like this's Tin's job to post picks & keep every record of every play ? I've 30+ plays every nite and all i care about is the end of the nite how much I'm up !
U re now asking ppl to do things in yr way buddy. This's his post and if u don't like what u see, u can always leave, u know that right? Just like someone go into yr hse and ask u to move the kitchen table , TV , microwave bcos that's the way it suppose to be, how do u feel?
I'm not here to protect Tin , I just want u to understand how to respect the others just like the way u want people to respect u. Walking into ppls hse and ask him to change his stuff to the way u like is not cool at all. 
Can everyone just get along and make some $$$ tonite ? |
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#583 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:15:54 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Delino349: Kapono, I hear ya man, and I respect your non abusive way in doing so, and in your replies. But if there is an issue, if you truly have, why not just write to him solo, or figure some other mode out? Why get in the way of those that really believe in the picks and feel they are winning money from them? Why would you guys come in here and mock, or constantly berate? Like, we arent doing that in yours? I dont think they do that to you?
And really, my take is this man...we talkin honesty?? Honesty? We talkin honesty??? lol...of course channel Iverson when doin that but really, like, honesty? Everyone is a gambler lookin to make as much as they can...thats it. Im not here to fall in love with some honest capper. Im here to read and learn and develop my own takes. And when my fingers hit the keyboard and press the numbers and then hit enter...its MY DOING. So if someone wanst to lie about numbers. Sensational. Someone wants to miss units. Fantastic. Someone wants to hype records, God Bless em.
As long as when they say, take the Mavs and the Mavs win, i really dont care one bit how much they or anyone else bet. How much they won or lost. I just care about me.
Anyway man, good luck, you seem like a good guy...
You answered your own question as to why I bring it up publicly. I've been around these boards a long time and have seen a lot of innocent people who are down on their luck get hookwinked by people who they think are good cappers who inflate their records. Everyone has to start out somewhere, and I would hate to think that some of these newer guys who look to tinoker for inspiration could be getting deceived. It's not honest and its not right.
I have nothing against the people in this thread, I just think that being truthful about your record and units is something that needs to be strived for, and when people aren't honest about it time and time and time again, and ONLY make corrections when a third party calls them on it, well, that makes me angry because I don't like seeing innocent people get hoodwinked.
It's deceptive, and I only like deception when its coming from an undercover report from Covers Investigative Team or in a game of poker.
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#584 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:28:58 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by kaponofor3: You answered your own question as to why I bring it up publicly. I've been around these boards a long time and have seen a lot of innocent people who are down on their luck get hookwinked by people who they think are good cappers who inflate their records. Everyone has to start out somewhere, and I would hate to think that some of these newer guys who look to tinoker for inspiration could be getting deceived. It's not honest and its not right. I have nothing against the people in this thread, I just think that being truthful about your record and units is something that needs to be strived for, and when people aren't honest about it time and time and time again, and ONLY make corrections when a third party calls them on it, well, that makes me angry because I don't like seeing innocent people get hoodwinked. It's deceptive, and I only like deception when its coming from an undercover report from Covers Investigative Team or in a game of poker. KAPONO, I HAVE FOLLOWED YOU SILENTLY FOR QUITE A WHILE AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THE RESPECT I HAVE FOR YOU HAS GONE EVEN HIGHER. YOU SOUND LIKE A GOOD PERSON, I ALSO RESPECT TIN AND I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIM. ONLY THING IS THAT COVERS IS NOT FUN ANYMORE FOR ME. BICKERING AND FIGHTING ALL DAY LONG. I HAVE LEARNED ALOT ABOUT BETTING WITH ALOT OF YOU GUYS BUT IM GETTING TIRED OF EVERYTHING THATS GOING ON |
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#585 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:32:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by happyshine:
Sounds like this's Tin's job to post picks & keep every record of every play ? I've 30+ plays every nite and all i care about is the end of the nite how much I'm up !
U re now asking ppl to do things in yr way buddy. This's his post and if u don't like what u see, u can always leave, u know that right? Just like someone go into yr hse and ask u to move the kitchen table , TV , microwave bcos that's the way it suppose to be, how do u feel?
I'm not here to protect Tin , I just want u to understand how to respect the others just like the way u want people to respect u. Walking into ppls hse and ask him to change his stuff to the way u like is not cool at all.
Can everyone just get along and make some $$$ tonite ?
I believe a lot of you have me all wrong.
I totally agree that the point of this forum is to talk to others about sports betting in a positive and constructive atmosphere. Everybody wants to make money... nobody in here I think would be against that... and I'm not saying anybody do it my way at all.
However the main point I was trying to bring to this thread is that Tin very well knows what he is doing and is not being honest. The excuse after excuse needs to stop.
Sparty explained it very well in post # 573 of this thread that
"Think about the bigger picture guys/gals. When honesty becomes irrelevant what will we have left? Maybe honesty on a sports gambling website seems meaningless to you... but when do we start being honest and making people be honest? At what level of life does it become relevant?
No matter how good someone is at something doesn't give them the right to cheat. And certainly anyone who points it out isn't bad for doing it." I'm simply asking you to think for yourselves if cheating if morally right to condone in this forum. Be a leader, not a follower. |
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#586 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:33:43 PM
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#587 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:42:17 PM |
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#588 Posted: 2/3/2011 4:50:27 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by dtwizzle2:
For starters I would like to start out by saying that although I am a novice to covers, over the past few weeks I've gone thru all the forums and viewed some of the more reputable cappers, and to be quite honest, all the banter about how Tin and his clan manage their forum feeds is beyond ridiculous. I've seen complaints about how emotional Tin is and how his record is questionable yet my question to people like kapono and milkado ( 2 reputable cappers themselves) is "why do care so much to go on complaining for days on end?", what people do with their money is their choice. If they feel like tin, humble and bean do a good job and want to tail them then that's their choice. Also wouldn't you get somewhat defensive if people were always challenging you even tho all your trying to do is share information??? I see that people also complain how Tins pages are 20+ pages yet only a few picks are made but people like Kapono make these threads longer by stirring up troubles, if you think Tin is full of it, then don't click on his link, simple as that....at the end of the day covers is a resource for cappers to share thoughts and banter it's not a witch hunt...
I think it's been answered (at least on my behalf) why I care. I don't like dishonesty and deception in the posting of records on this site. If you are gonna post a record, you should be accurate. Tin has a history of changing unit amounts or "forgetting" about losses. It's been pointed out on multiple occasions. I don't like people who are potentially naive to get hoodwinked.
I wouldn't get defensive in any way because (1) I always post legitimate lines that can be found at 5dimes and (2) I always am correct in my record posting and units tabulation. Tin isn't here to share information either, he just posts picks and that's it. I haven't seen Tin break down any one game or give analysis on any of his plays or anything. He's here to promote Tin, and that's goal #1 for him it sure seems like -- at least, what are we supposed to conclude given his long noted history of record fudging?
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#590 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:16:40 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by dtwizzle2: Kap, while I understand your stance, at the end of the day if people are going to blindly follow cappers on covers than they deserve what they put in.. As I've stated before , I only use covers as a reference , to see what other cappers are thinking, (I've browsed your page as well)... If tin is dishonest, then the people who tail him will eventually get theirs, but I think that it's time to just move on from all this... I place wagers to avoid parts of my life that are oversaturated with people whining and complaining all day, and it'd be a shame if covers becomes that...
I understand your position as well, dt, but I've heard and seen some sad stories of people tailing under the expectation that someone's record is legitimate when it is not. Let's not act like all of us here have complete control over our gambling tendencies. We know that's not the case and its naive to think so if one does. I guess I'm not as harsh as you that anyone who is deceived by a poster deserves whatever they get.
Don't we have a duty as a community to ensure that those of us who are our most vulnerable -- i.e. people who would tail -- don't get taken advantage of?
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#591 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:20:07 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by dtwizzle2:
For starters I would like to start out by saying that although I am a novice to covers, over the past few weeks I've gone thru all the forums and viewed some of the more reputable cappers, and to be quite honest, all the banter about how Tin and his clan manage their forum feeds is beyond ridiculous. I've seen complaints about how emotional Tin is and how his record is questionable yet my question to people like kapono and milkado ( 2 reputable cappers themselves) is "why do care so much to go on complaining for days on end?", what people do with their money is their choice. If they feel like tin, humble and bean do a good job and want to tail them then that's their choice. Also wouldn't you get somewhat defensive if people were always challenging you even tho all your trying to do is share information??? I see that people also complain how Tins pages are 20+ pages yet only a few picks are made but people like Kapono make these threads longer by stirring up troubles, if you think Tin is full of it, then don't click on his link, simple as that....at the end of the day covers is a resource for cappers to share thoughts and banter it's not a witch hunt...
I believe I've already answered that question in here already, but I'll reiterate my answer and break it down for you all:
People who are new to this site would be attracted to this thread being at the top and getting a high view count - so naturally they will gravitate towards this thread to see what it is about.
However the problem comes with the way he posts as Kapono stated above. The number of picks a day is absurd and his numbers are consistently false and inaccurate. Does it not bother you that Tin changed the Wolves from a 10 unit play Post #242 to a 5 unit play Post #339 after the game started?
I don't mind if some of you don't have time on your own to cap and are looking for other's picks; but do you want to listen and take advise from a cheater? |
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#593 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:26:49 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikado:
I believe I've already answered that question in here already, but I'll reiterate my answer and break it down for you all:
People who are new to this site would be attracted to this thread being at the top and getting a high view count - so naturally they will gravitate towards this thread to see what it is about.
However the problem comes with the way he posts as Kapono stated above. The number of picks a day is absurd and his numbers are consistently false and inaccurate. Does it not bother you that Tin changed the Wolves from a 10 unit play Post #242 to a 5 unit play Post #339 after the game started?
I don't mind if some of you don't have time on your own to cap and are looking for other's picks; but do you want to listen and take advise from a cheater?
That's the type of deception I am talking about. I have no idea how anyone can possibly defend that. That cannot be chalked up to an "innocent mistake", that was blatant dishonesty, manipulation, and deception.
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#595 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:30:56 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by tonydan:
ONLY THING IS THAT COVERS IS NOT FUN ANYMORE FOR ME. BICKERING AND FIGHTING ALL DAY LONG. I HAVE LEARNED ALOT ABOUT BETTING WITH ALOT OF YOU GUYS BUT IM GETTING TIRED OF EVERYTHING THATS GOING ON
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#596 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:36:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
That's the type of deception I am talking about. I have no idea how anyone can possibly defend that. That cannot be chalked up to an "innocent mistake", that was blatant dishonesty, manipulation, and deception.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that was a mistake.
Notice how in the 2nd post is in quotes. You would assume he had quoted that and just brought it back up on that page for a status update on his plays or something. However the problem is: he corrected and altered his previous quote to make others think that was his original play.
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#597 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:38:55 PM
How much you want to bet that if I go back through tin's posts for, say, the last week, I'll find at least 2-3 instances where he does that?
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#599 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:42:31 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
That's the type of deception I am talking about. I have no idea how anyone can possibly defend that. That cannot be chalked up to an "innocent mistake", that was blatant dishonesty, manipulation, and deception.
kap..mikado, dont you think then if he really is deceptive and fudges lines and units..people that really follow would find out(mainly through the wallet) that there is something wrong or deceptive about these guys? cmon...u guys actualy cvare about the noobie checking out threads and getting hoodwinked? im sure if they get hoodwinked they will move on and learn to follow without putting money on to see a track record.
ive watched these guys for a while now....and i didnt put one dime on a play they had( unless i liked it myself) and the things you guys are bickering about are nonsense. i now follow and do throw down lots of cash...1000 a game is alot for me... andi am not down and they have not decieved or changed picks or whatever. as far as the posted units..i dont even look at that..an experienced bettor will worry about his roll..not anyone elses.
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#600 Posted: 2/3/2011 5:44:11 PM Wow, Mikado & Kapono, you guys are still going at it... how much more pathetic can you guys be...
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