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Posted: 6/9/2013 6:39:51 PM
cjm2008 your full of it there are no $30,0000 houses in vegas Maybe crap condo for $50,000 What are you going to live on????????????????????
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Posted: 6/9/2013 7:19:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by baronman:

cjm2008 your full of it there are no $30,0000 houses in vegas Maybe crap condo for $50,000 What are you going to live on????????????????????


You are saying the wrong person is "full of crap".  I was quoting dtorres72.
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Posted: 6/9/2013 8:05:18 PM
Well no shi@@ baronman, read what i wrote i said I hope to buy a house with MY WINNINGS...  I will be leaving this week, and staying at 1st Budget Suites, and see what happens...So before you go off on saying crap, read the full post..
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Posted: 6/9/2013 9:22:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dtorres72:

Well no shi@@ baronman, read what i wrote i said I hope to buy a house with MY WINNINGS...  I will be leaving this week, and staying at 1st Budget Suites, and see what happens...So before you go off on saying crap, read the full post..

Thanks dtorres72 for clearing that up
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Posted: 6/10/2013 7:27:23 PM
Actually You can still find home in Vegas ranging from 55 to 80K
Look at the Zillow website
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Posted: 6/13/2013 7:44:23 PM
Dam its hot...  Oh well I am here staying at Budget Suites on Tropicana.  Just in time for game 4 of the NBA Finals..  I think the Heat bounce back in a big way.  Taken them 1st half and the game.  Will start a little light to begin and hopefully pick it up as the days and hopefully months go bye..

1g on each....and will double up on at the half if i win 1st half bet!!!!
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Posted: 6/21/2013 10:40:47 AM
Well it's been just over a week and I must say, it's exciting out here!  I love this town, FOR NOW!  So many beautiful ladies, most half naked during the day at the pools.  Now what man doesn't like that?  The night life has been crazy, but i am still keeping my senses, cause lord knows you could blow thousands in a matter of minutes without gambling..

Anyways, I am up a little bit, i would say 2g, wish i could say more but that is better then being down 2g or more.

Today I am taking an early baseball game and I always hate to taking a team with a big run line, but since its a Friday afternoon game lets start the weekend off right, putting up 3400 to win 2000 on the Cubs, -170 ML...
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Posted: 6/21/2013 12:33:24 PM
Win or lose this game, You are already done and finished, Playing a -170 favorite is death, Playing the CUBS at -170 in Suicide.
give up this endeavor now before all your money is gone baby gone.
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Posted: 6/21/2013 12:44:16 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso:

Win or lose this game, You are already done and finished, Playing a -170 favorite is death, Playing the CUBS at -170 in Suicide.
give up this endeavor now before all your money is gone baby gone.

Sadly I have to agree with this. I actually like Houston at such a big dog (but I think it may be a trap). 

May I ask why you are laying so much on this game?!!? You are betting almost twice your total profit thus far...on the CUBS. 

None the less, BOL. Be safe buddy and don't lose your mind. 
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Posted: 6/21/2013 12:48:57 PM
Did you need to file IRS forms on your wins?   I would think a 2k win would necessitate forms?   
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Posted: 6/21/2013 2:35:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dtorres72:

Well it's been just over a week and I must say, it's exciting out here!  I love this town, FOR NOW!  So many beautiful ladies, most half naked during the day at the pools.  Now what man doesn't like that?  The night life has been crazy, but i am still keeping my senses, cause lord knows you could blow thousands in a matter of minutes without gambling..

Anyways, I am up a little bit, i would say 2g, wish i could say more but that is better then being down 2g or more.

You must be having a heat stroke to put up that much money on the Cubs. I think the pools and nightlife is getting to you.






Today I am taking an early baseball game and I always hate to taking a team with a big run line, but since its a Friday afternoon game lets start the weekend off right, putting up 3400 to win 2000 on the Cubs, -170 ML...
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Posted: 6/21/2013 2:37:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dtorres72:

Well it's been just over a week and I must say, it's exciting out here!  I love this town, FOR NOW!  So many beautiful ladies, most half naked during the day at the pools.  Now what man doesn't like that?  The night life has been crazy, but i am still keeping my senses, cause lord knows you could blow thousands in a matter of minutes without gambling..

Anyways, I am up a little bit, i would say 2g, wish i could say more but that is better then being down 2g or more.

Today I am taking an early baseball game and I always hate to taking a team with a big run line, but since its a Friday afternoon game lets start the weekend off right, putting up 3400 to win 2000 on the Cubs, -170 ML...


3400 to win 2000 on the Cubs. The heat, pools, half naked women, and nightlife must be getting to you.

GL Brother
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Posted: 6/22/2013 12:51:15 AM
Nice hit buddy. I'd probably take a day or 2 off though! But hell, who knows? I might be the delirious one...I have been COLD lately.

I went 0-3 today----not to mention almost all of my "leans" lost. 

Gotta get back on the train. Keep it up buddy and keep us posted. 
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Posted: 6/22/2013 1:08:53 AM
Gambler will never win no matter what. The odd is always the house. Save ur money and enjoy your vacation some where else.
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Posted: 6/22/2013 6:58:43 AM
NO matter what?
What if the gambler wins a bet or two?
I think it's unfair to say that every gambler losses?
There has to be a winner or two out there.  Otherwise I don't think anyone would play.
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Posted: 6/22/2013 6:09:44 PM
MasterNBA, lay off the pipe.  That is a bold statement to say, but to each their own.  Not sure what all the fuss was about with taking the Cubs! 

Do I like laying a big money line, not really but if you have a gut its going to win, you don't have a choice but to take it. 

I will post this bet for tonight and I will check back in about a week or so, but once again lay the big money line -150 and take the Chicago Blackhawks..  I will lay $4500 to win $3g....
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Posted: 6/23/2013 1:01:54 AM

I cant believe I spent over an hour reading this thread in its entirety. Very insightful though. The dream fantasy to me would be to enjoy what you are doing. Presently, I am grateful for my lifestyle. Family is everything. The film Godfather has a strong influence on my life and the line from that movie regarding spending time with ones family is something I live by. So personally I would have to live “the dream” vicariously through some of you playboys that are doing it in Sin City. One of my best buds talks about the dream. He is a successful gambler but does tend to get cute and could spiral out of control. But when we discuss this fantasy we be real. Why not get a job. Even a bartender gig is pretty sweet when you think about it. The game is on the tube!!!!!!!

I think Mafioso made a very good point early in the thread. Intel chimed in midway with insight. I like Pohoda post 259. And post 270 and the rant about online was gold. Its very risky to have a substantial amount in offshore action. Post 302 brought up the gamblers fallacy not once, but twice. That dude is whack. Do not listen to that strategy. I thought post 329 was legend. Just pick winners.

The lifestyle of earning $100 per day is a goal for some and in many cases, a confortable living.. Personally that’s not enough. Maybe for a college or fresh out of college kid. But as a frequent visitor of Vegas, I really don’t think it’s a desirable place. I would pay 2% of winnings to someone who would place a wager for me. I’m a situational gambler who leans on dogs. Career winner. But knowing that % wise I would have been a loser over the decade. It was balls that has made me money. San Diego @ Indy playoffs. Seattls vs Saints playoffs. Then, the daily player in me is a loser. I cant pick a winner in a Blue Jays vs Tigers game. I cant pick out a game on a daily basis and grind. Today, I knew Mexico was a better team than Japan. Despite their match not meaning a damn thing. I won huge. It was my only bet in the last 8 days. Pick Winners. Don’t get cute.

This thread has opened up one thing to me. I pay about $60 in withdrawal fees to my main offshore book. And pretty much just buy lunch and break bread with….. So there is no real reason to go to Las Vegas. So to take the money out the book may essentially cover the gas money/parking/valet/tips/tips/tips it takes to live in Vegas.

 If you play poker there is always someplace that has a great promotion. I rememiber once at Excalibur of all places you spun a wheel for simply draw AA. The Sahara had a fun tourney at 7-11-7 daily. Providing a meal at the first break. It was like what $77? With a $10 add on.  A few years back you earned $1 per hour at IP. They even had Happy Hours when you would earn more. Turn those comps into a high fattening meal. Have a salad instead. Whoever brought up health insurance is on point.

If you drink or smoke weed or even worse, something much worse, than you should continue that behavior wherever you currently reside. Get some help and stay away from Vegas.

The women situation is Vegas seems bountiful.

 

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Posted: 6/23/2013 11:41:41 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MasterNBA:

Gambler will never win no matter what. The odd is always the house. Save ur money and enjoy your vacation some where else.
 

Probably you were in the wrong place, wrong time and wrong people if you actually believe that. 
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Posted: 6/23/2013 1:12:37 PM

Man I was tanked last night when I wrote that.

I imagine being in a 3+ bedroom townhome or condo. Living the dream with my best bud. Splitting most expenses. Not counting food, expenses are about $1200 a piece. We each have a bedroom and the 3rd room would be an office. Multiple monitors and tv screens. There would be a dry erase board. We would follow the same routine and do our research in this war room. Gamblers always think the catch lightning in a bottle when they start hitting and always think there is some system or strategy. And to a point there is. It mainly has to do with money management. After mining the books we would make connections there and strictly shop for the best lines. I would not want to bet more tan 2-3 outcomes per week. One or both of us would go to whichever casino made the most sense. Maybe we get comped here or get a half point there.

I would be happy not having to grind out at a job and have someone's signature on the paycheck on Friday. I am tired of that lifestyle. My entrepreneurial aspirations have been mildly successful but not enough to sustain a living. Not when I have mouths to feed.

But this dream of gambling for a living would probably at the end of the day, shorten my life span. In 2011 Finals, the last time I got over emotional about a loss was my lowest point. Win or lose, I rarely have any emotion and I guess that's a good thing going forward.

GL to you out there that are living and most of all, enjoying, what you are doing.

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Posted: 6/23/2013 8:48:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bizkilla:

Man I was tanked last night when I wrote that.

I imagine being in a 3+ bedroom townhome or condo. Living the dream with my best bud. Splitting most expenses. Not counting food, expenses are about $1200 a piece. We each have a bedroom and the 3rd room would be an office. Multiple monitors and tv screens. There would be a dry erase board. We would follow the same routine and do our research in this war room. Gamblers always think the catch lightning in a bottle when they start hitting and always think there is some system or strategy. And to a point there is. It mainly has to do with money management. After mining the books we would make connections there and strictly shop for the best lines. I would not want to bet more tan 2-3 outcomes per week. One or both of us would go to whichever casino made the most sense. Maybe we get comped here or get a half point there.

I would be happy not having to grind out at a job and have someone's signature on the paycheck on Friday. I am tired of that lifestyle. My entrepreneurial aspirations have been mildly successful but not enough to sustain a living. Not when I have mouths to feed.

But this dream of gambling for a living would probably at the end of the day, shorten my life span. In 2011 Finals, the last time I got over emotional about a loss was my lowest point. Win or lose, I rarely have any emotion and I guess that's a good thing going forward.

GL to you out there that are living and most of all, enjoying, what you are doing.


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Posted: 6/23/2013 11:45:33 PM
Good stuff in this thread....I hope to build a roll large enough to just try for 2-3 weeks! And see how it goes....not a plan for life but a roll large enough to see how I could do on a short term basis. I have a friend moving to Vegas in August to teach, and I could stay with her for free 
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Posted: 6/24/2013 12:21:19 PM
I thought the poster who said that starting with a low- bare minimum BR was spot on.
Then when you eventually go broke like most do, you haven't really lost much.
Taking tens of thousands of dollars & losing it slowly could be quite sobering
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Posted: 6/25/2013 11:35:06 AM
4500 to win 3000 does not sound sensible to me.  The guy who won 15k risking 500  on the Nadal upset was cool!  Won 3000 for every 100 although it was a huge upset.   A few years back a guy won on the St. L. Cards to win a futures bet to win NL.  Believe they were 10 games out of the division.   They won the division over the NYM on the last day of the season.  Then they upset Phillies and Cliff Lee and Doc Halladay in the first round.   25k later they won the WS over the Rangers after being down to their last strike.  College football a poster had money line straight bet on Iowa St. at home versus undefeated and highly ranked OK St. on a Thursday nite game, ESPN.  17 point favs were the Cowboys.  I remember that game as it was reported a plane crash had killed the OK St. women basketball coach.  They got upset in OT and the guy won thousands for his money line bet.  He won a 100 on his point spread for insurance!  LOL!
The biggest fool was the guy who bet 72k on Mike Tyson versus Buster Douglas years ago in Tokyo and  Mike got beat.  For every big winner, there will be a big loser.
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Posted: 6/26/2013 12:57:26 AM
I feel I'm living the dream. I have a new car, a decent place to live, and was able to retire at 52. It was'nt all roses getting to this point. I went through 2 divorces that cost me about 250,000 over the last 20 years. I had my ups and downs and there is a learning curve if you are not from Vegas. The best part about living in Vegas is talking to and learning the thousands of betting styles for each game, each sport. Pick one and get good at it. If you try too many, this town will chew you up and spit you out. I don't reccommend anyone doing it. I did, but money is not all you lose or win. Relationships can break apart and what may seem meaningless at the time will be a regret when you get older. As far as making a living at betting, I make 5 to 6 grand during football season and thats usually over a 6 month period, although I did make 30,000 in 8 weeks one year and I had the strangest feeling this was going to stop after the 3rd week but it kept going. I stayed consistant with my bets and played 3 team round robins. I have been here since 94 and unless your betting 1000 a game, it would be hard to make a year's living expenses. Let's just say you did make a year's living expenses. Would you have the control to lay off until the next season?, or would you pick up your style of living and blow it before the year was out? Could you hold a 2500 dollar ticket in the NBA with a 42 point lead at half and getting 3.5 points without blowing the money you had on you before it ended. I did that, and the team lost. It takes a lot to be a professional and you have to walk through their play ground and rules everyday focused on what you do best and cut the rest out. Good Luck if you try, I have seen many fail mainly because of their vices, over drinking, betting just to have action, slot machines, high interest loans, playing to many sports.
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Posted: 6/27/2013 12:37:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ShadowWarrior:

Did you need to file IRS forms on your wins?   I would think a 2k win would necessitate forms?   

 

Odds need to be 300 to 1, or higher, on sports bets before you have to file a 1099 form.

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