UFC announces scoring mistake in Mcall/mighty mouse, rematch to happen

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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:05:41 AM
One of the score cards was misread, and it was supposed to be a majority draw, meaning the overtime round was supposed to happen.

Rematch to occur....  
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:07:37 AM
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:08:09 AM
lol
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:13:01 AM

Biggest MMA organization..while are they still using yahtzee cards?

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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:14:23 AM
It was the hanging chads.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:22:13 AM
Could result in a refund, since the real result is a draw.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:30:27 AM

[Quote: Originally Posted by sharpstick] Could result in a refund, since the real result is a draw. [/Quote

 

would your book honor the draw? most casino policies are that the scores read in the ring are whats going to be paid at the window.

i got paid dawson/hopkins and they never took it out of my account after it was ruled a n/c.

 

 

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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:35:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

Originally Posted by sharpstick] Could result in a refund, since the real result is a draw. [/Quote

 

would your book honor the draw? most casino policies are that the scores read in the ring are whats going to be paid at the window.

i got paid dawson/hopkins and they never took it out of my account after it was ruled a n/c.

 

 


We are trying to figure it out.  Problem is we don't have power to get the money back from actual tickets paid, as opposed to offshores being able to just overturn it.

The OFFICIAL result was a draw.  It wasn't overturned or anything, it was officially 28-28, 29-29, and 29-28 for Mighty mouse.... making it a majority draw.  It was just read wrong.

Anything overturned another day will never get refunded or reversed for wagering purposes.  But the OFFICIAL result here is a draw, making this situation unique.

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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:38:07 AM
So do we get a refund? I had 300 on McCall
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:38:27 AM
anyone that books with pinny, not sure what to make of this

  1. Results will be graded based on the official result at ringside.

  2. A result may be revised or altered after initial presentation by the ring announcer. For wagering purposes, results are not official until verified by officials at the fighting venue. Official or unofficial sanctioning body overturns of a fight decision based on appeal, suspension, lawsuit, drug testing result, or any other fighter sanction will not be recognized for wagering purposes.


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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:39:51 AM
I believe people who bet Mccall offshore will get a refund.

Especially with those rules posted by FIMK.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:40:26 AM
So then we dont get our money back
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:41:59 AM
I bet with 5dimes
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:43:09 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kjrpat:

So then we dont get our money back

The official result ringside was a draw.  
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:44:19 AM
yea lets see if i can convince 5 dimes that
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:47:17 AM
Results will be graded/regraded based on the official result at ringside.  A result may be revised or altered after initial presentation by the ring announcer.  Results are not official for wagering purposes until verified by officials at the fighting venue.  Official or unofficial sanctioning body overturns of a fight decision based on appeal, suspension, lawsuit, drug testing result, or any other fighter sanction will not be recognized for wagering purposes.



That is from 5dimes.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:48:21 AM
How does a decision get mis-read?  Has Bruce Buffer gone blind, or was it recorded incorrectly by the judge?
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:49:36 AM
...and if the judge did realize the error after it was misread, why didn't someone notify the commission immediately so that they could have started a 4th round right then and there...
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:50:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MR219:

How does a decision get mis-read?  Has Bruce Buffer gone blind, or was it recorded incorrectly by the judge?

I'm not sure.  I don't believe it was recorded incorrectly, because than after any fight a judge could go back and say well I meant to score it one way.  He had to have written 10-8 for the last round, and someone added wrong.

I am not sure if Buffer reads straight off the official scorecards or not.  It is possible they type up something for him real quick, or write it down on his index card.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:53:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sharpstick:


I'm not sure.  I don't believe it was recorded incorrectly, because than after any fight a judge could go back and say well I meant to score it one way.  He had to have written 10-8 for the last round, and someone added wrong.

I am not sure if Buffer reads straight off the official scorecards or not.  It is possible they type up something for him real quick, or write it down on his index card.

I just read the artilce re: this situation on mmajunkie.  Very odd...

Hopefully bet365 will refund my bet...

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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:57:37 AM
5dimes said whoevers hand got raised wins
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Posted: 3/3/2012 12:57:40 AM
from willhill ... looks like refund wont happen at this book

1. GENERAL RULES:

a. All bets are settled on the official result at the end of the fight and any subsequent alterations to the result will not affect bets.

b. If an event is postponed bets are void.

c. In the event of a draw bets are void.

Predict the fighter/team that will win the tournament. Reserves and substitutes do not count for betting purposes and bets will be settled on the result 'without any reserves or substitutes'.

Predict the result of a bout between two fighters.


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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:00:19 AM
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Bruce'
Bruce: Hello. How may I assist you today?
ryan patterson: i have a question about a bet that i made that graded wrong tonight
ryan patterson: it says i lost the fight but it has been ruled a draw
ryan patterson: what is 5 dimes ruling on this ?
Bruce: Can you please confirm your account number and password?
Bruce: the ticket in question Sir? 
ryan patterson: 111445813 3/2/12 9:41pm -$100.00 $400.00 1 Wager(s) Placed 111445813-1 $100.00 $280.00 Loss 3/2/12 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1201 Ian McCall +280* vs Demetrious Johnson 111444209 3/2/12 9:37pm -$145.00 $500.00 1 Wager(s) Placed 111444209-1 $145.00 $398.75 Loss 3/2/12 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1201 Ian McCall +275* vs De
ryan patterson: 111445813
ryan patterson: and 111444209
Bruce: Let me check your account, just a moment please
Bruce: The referee raised Johnson's hand as the winner, that's how it was graded
ryan patterson: Results will be graded/regraded based on the official result at ringside. A result may be revised or altered after initial presentation by the ring announcer. Results are not official for wagering purposes until verified by officials at the fighting venue. Official or unofficial sanctioning body overturns of a fight decision based on appeal, suspension, lawsuit, drug testing result, or any other fighter sanction will not be recognized for wagering purposes.
ryan patterson: thats from your website
ryan patterson: the officials say it was a draw
Bruce: The grading will stand 
Bruce: you are welcome to contact our General Manager tomorrow
Bruce: his name is Tony so you can discuss furthermore this
Bruce: he is usually available during late morning hours, by live chat ONLY 
ryan patterson: ok ill talk to him
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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:00:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kjrpat:

5dimes said whoevers hand got raised wins

That is not what their posted rules say though.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:01:57 AM
Definitely talk to him tomorrow.  Based on their posted rules, it is clearly a refund.
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