Harvin already hurt......

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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:48:13 PM
Got a hip problem..........didn't even have 1 day of camp & is already off to NY for a 2nd opinion.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:21:14 PM
a wasted contract
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Posted: 7/26/2013 10:18:07 PM
And I drafted him in my league the day before

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Posted: 7/27/2013 12:51:39 AM
damaged goods
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Posted: 7/27/2013 1:21:57 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:

And I drafted him in my league the day before



seriously??? its july!!! who has a draft in july??? this is exactly the reason you wait till AFTER the preseason to draft, you know who is hurt and who has emerged as a starter that might not have been in july!!

vikes were spot on with this boy, easy to say that now i suppose but with the migraines then last season he is damaged goods, great player but the risk isnt worth it imo.....
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Posted: 7/27/2013 2:08:41 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by beastie66:



seriously??? its july!!! who has a draft in july??? this is exactly the reason you wait till AFTER the preseason to draft, you know who is hurt and who has emerged as a starter that might not have been in july!!

vikes were spot on with this boy, easy to say that now i suppose but with the migraines then last season he is damaged goods, great player but the risk isnt worth it imo.....

It was some random one I signed up for on ESPN. I was feeling the urge to get a little fantasy action lol. All my other drafts haven't happened yet we usually wait until August 
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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:16:58 AM
and thats why you don't do fantasy this early
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Posted: 7/27/2013 11:29:05 AM

Oops!

 

Nobody saw that coming!

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Posted: 7/27/2013 2:56:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by The Hawk:

Oops!

 

Nobody saw that coming!

I questioned his durability when the deal was made.........someone on this forum, a Viking fan no doubt, said he has actually missed very few games despite all of his issues.

 Who knows......maybe he just hates preseason camp. Walter Jones used to hold out every year & then make the pro bowl.
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Posted: 7/28/2013 2:20:42 AM
China Doll
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Posted: 7/28/2013 1:20:03 PM
Sucks
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Posted: 7/29/2013 6:28:52 AM
He will b back
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Posted: 7/29/2013 9:32:07 AM
Harvin is injury prone.  Missed seven games last year.  Long migraine history including puking on sidelines and pulling himself from games.  With his style of play, Seahawks have to be concerned they gave up too much.  
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Posted: 7/29/2013 10:03:46 AM
Get him the old Mark Kelso helmet.... Bills SS in the 90's...
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Posted: 7/29/2013 11:12:12 AM
This is why you do not play smallish wr issues with health issues. The seahawks management usually plays things smart but they failed big time with this trade imo. Seattle free agent wr usually always get hurt or underperform going back to tj hushmanzadeh and some who I forget to recall even before tj.

This makes Rice and Tate sneaky wr3 and maybe low wr2s in 12 team leagues if harvin misses a lot of time.
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Posted: 7/29/2013 12:23:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

I questioned his durability when the deal was made.........someone on this forum, a Viking fan no doubt, said he has actually missed very few games despite all of his issues.

 Who knows......maybe he just hates preseason camp. Walter Jones used to hold out every year & then make the pro bowl.

It's the truth....until last year, he had played in 16, 14, and 15 games respectively....the time he missed mainly due to migraines. Obviously, last year was a bit different, but facts are facts.

I was, however, also on board with the trade from MN's perspective. They got a pretty good haul for a player who obviously wasn't interested in staying in MN and they didn't have to pay him.  
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Posted: 7/29/2013 6:47:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


It's the truth....until last year, he had played in 16, 14, and 15 games respectively....the time he missed mainly due to migraines. Obviously, last year was a bit different, but facts are facts.

I was, however, also on board with the trade from MN's perspective. They got a pretty good haul for a player who obviously wasn't interested in staying in MN and they didn't have to pay him.  
I looked it up after you mentioned it, so yeah, he hasn't missed a lot of games historically. Having not been in a FFL for a while I didn't pay much attention to Harvin except for highlights, & the only mentions of him other than that were his being "?" or other on the injury reports.........seemed like he was listed a lot even if he did end up playing that week.

 The Seahawks have about a 2 year window to win big before they will have to start dismantling due to contracts/ salary cap  issues............ if Harvin can help them get to/win a SB in the next 2 years it will have been a worth while acquisition.
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Posted: 7/29/2013 9:59:35 PM
They had to have gone over his medical reports 127 times before they made this deal. Plus how many Seahawk doctors poked him?
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Posted: 7/29/2013 11:36:11 PM

From Peter King MMQB

 Harvin flies to New York to be examined by a hip specialist on Tuesday after feeling some restrictions while running last week. He got nervous about it, saw the usually conservative Seahawks doctors (who believe the injury isn’t season-threatening) and decided to exercise his right to have a second opinion. Last year, Seattle safety Kam Chancellor played a full season after getting a cortisone shot and some rest for a similar injury, a torn labrum in his hip. That leads the Seahawks to think they’ll escape a season-ending injury for Harvin. I’ve got a little different opinion on this than most. Harvin had trust issues with authority in Minnesota dating back to a poor relationship with head coach Brad Childress. So now the Seahawks can establish that they’re going to be different—they’re going to give their blessing on getting the second opinion, and they’re going to tell Harvin, We want you to have peace of mind about your hip. Opening day is 41 days away, and aside from the fact that Russell Wilson and Harvin need to be building familiarity, there’s not a major issue with a guy who has a history of missing time (10 games in four seasons) getting as healthy as he can in the preseason and feeling confident in his body when September comes. As one Seattle source said to me, “Percy’s a confidence player—he needs to feel good about his condition and himself. This time should give him the best chance to feel right entering the season.” That is, unless a doctor in New York tells Harvin he needs surgery this week. My money’s on rest and treatment—and Harvin to be ready on opening day.

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Posted: 7/30/2013 12:10:22 AM
agree with hawak
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Posted: 7/30/2013 1:29:58 AM
 Hawk.........That's believable.........when Harvin showed up for OTA's he looked, by all accounts, 100% & was stellar according to all in camp. I thought it was odd that he would suddenly have an affliction that would require surgery. Like I said earlier, it may just be a way to reduce camp time for a guy that feels he's ready to go..........certainly not unheard of for a veteran of his status.
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Posted: 7/30/2013 2:37:51 PM
I did hear that they are going to go with whatever the 2nd opinion is. There is no doubt the injury exists....it's a matter of the course of treatment.  

Like I said earlier, it may just be a way to reduce camp time for a guy that feels he's ready to go..........certainly not unheard of for a veteran of his status.

The injury is real....that is not debatable.  And I can see someone like M. Colston doing that as he played a boat load with Brees, but for someone trying to establish chemistry with a 2nd year QB, I highly doubt it.  
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Posted: 7/30/2013 7:18:59 PM

The injury is real....that is not debatable.  And I can see someone like M. Colston doing that as he played a boat load with Brees, but for someone trying to establish chemistry with a 2nd year QB, I highly doubt it.



 
That's assuming you're dealing with a person of character that actually cares. Does harvin fit that description?
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Posted: 7/30/2013 9:41:31 PM
 Surgery it is..........out 3-4 months.


 Seahawks need to quit dealing with the Vikings
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