Reasons Why San Fran is dead money.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 12:49:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

^^^^originator???? 


Of what the NFL lines ? 


lol 

I got my read on the game and stating my points 


If you like 49ers give me your best points for takeing them


I for one will not be fooled by kap 

You already have been 

The fact that you don't recognize his amazing talent and ability after just 10 games shows how one-sided your evaluation is.  Every week since he started vs Chicago (arguably the best defense in the league at the time) everyone has been making excuses about why he will lose.  He absolutely shredded Chicago, and only rushed for 10 yards.  His amazing accuracy and overall game awareness gets immensely overlooked by his running capabilities.  I urge you to watch some of his films and stop making excuses.  Call it like it is, the kid is friggin good.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:39:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

RaveNs 

3-1 versus the 49ers since 1996


1 loss was in 96

Last time they played was 2011. 

San Fran was travelling from Arizona to Baltimore in 4 days. They played Nov 20th and then on 24th to Baltimore. 
San Fran O line was injured, 3rd stringer Chilo Rachal playing on road. Not to mention Alex Smith @ QB. After all that score was still 16-6. 

49ers O line is arguably best in league. Alex Boone is solid, not to mention 2 pro bowlers on line. Kaepernick is QB and rolling. 

Don't buy the Ray Lewis retirement angle. Game is gonna be played on field and 49ers are clearly better team. O Line, LB, D line and QB. There is no Champ Bailey and Rahim Moore to misplay every ball Flacco tosses up either.



 
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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:05:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

^^^ Flesh Gordan this is what I saw on my book not saying u r lying , but my book went in favor of the niners on the onset 

Baltimore bettors bet it back down to -3.5 where it is now 


I saw it at -4 and then -4.5 on my book 

I never seen it hit -5 or -5.5 

My point is this:  The books in Vegas throw out this big spread on Balt to draw money on the dog cause they know here in VEGAS the money on the FAV will even the bets or more.  I dont think they are trying to juice one team or the other THEY dont know who's gonna win this game IMHO.  If I was waiting to bet the game and it got to SF -3 or less I might bet the Niners  I'm down already so it will be intersting to see where the line is on game day


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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:13:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

Underdogs r the best bet in NFL 


Do u want articles supporting this theory ? 


Google it ;) u will find the answers ;)




friggin hilarious!
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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:17:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

^^^^^ mushroom head 

The line opens -3.5 49ers it got pounded to -4.5 to 5 or eve -5.5 at some
Places apparently .......



You are  the fool ..... Line got pounded on 49ers 



Wake the F up

Opening lines in Vegas

Caesars -4.5
LVH -4
Mirage -4.5
Orleans -5.5

This is Public knowledge and easily accessible information.
Most online books opened at -4 or higher .
don't think your book will stay in business to long  LOL 

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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:22:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

I Came acrooss an article about NFL betting 

is says something like this.

"Beware of the Bandwagon effect in the NFL, when one player goes off during the season this often creates a bandwagon type effect"  

See Timmy T-Bow last yr ........Ran all over the Jets, then got smashed in the playoffs by the Patriots.

Similar to Kapernick


*Those holes agaisnt GB were misleading ,,,,,My 12 yr old would of ran through those holes

*Rams shut him down in a dome

*Atlanta pretty much shut Kap down besides leaving the receivers wide open in the 2nd half

Baltimore will win this game by 3 or 4 points 

*Akers will miss 1 to 2 feild goals to seal the deal for the Ravens 

just look t Akers this yr 




lol. i dont think you can compare timmy to colin.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:30:00 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

I Came acrooss an article about NFL betting 

is says something like this.

"Beware of the Bandwagon effect in the NFL, when one player goes off during the season this often creates a bandwagon type effect"  

See Timmy T-Bow last yr ........Ran all over the Jets, then got smashed in the playoffs by the Patriots.

Similar to Kapernick


*Those holes agaisnt GB were misleading ,,,,,My 12 yr old would of ran through those holes

*Rams shut him down in a dome

*Atlanta pretty much shut Kap down besides leaving the receivers wide open in the 2nd half

Baltimore will win this game by 3 or 4 points 

*Akers will miss 1 to 2 feild goals to seal the deal for the Ravens 

just look t Akers this yr 




Tim Tebow is nothing like Kaepernick. 

Kaepernick wins games with his arm. He always looks to pass 1st and can make any throw. 

Your talking about Falcons leaving recievers wide open....Did you see Denver game. Flacco tossed it in the air, Champ Bailey and Rahim Moore went out to lunch.

Save your money 9ers are better team. Better O line, better D fence and got a guy @ QB that lives to play on big stage


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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:06:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FleshGordun:

I was in line to cash my tickets at SamsTown Las Vegas....no later than 10 minutes after the second game when the SB line appeared on the board SF - 5.5... is that close enough to the OPEN?




I can vouch for that, I live in east vegas and the line opened at SF -5.5 at sams town, boulder station and AZ charlies. This morning line was down to -3.5 at charlies.........Im really thinking though that the niners O-line and offensive gameplan will be too much for an over aggressive and old balty D, Im lovin the prop of niners to win by 7-12 at +350, gonna be a good game regardless
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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:13:38 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:



See Timmy T-Bow last yr ........Ran all over the Jets, then got smashed in the playoffs by the Patriots.

Similar to Kapernick




Please do not ever compare tebow to kaepernick again. There is absolutley NO comparison, as Kaepernick can actually throw the ball, and tebow is str8 garbage as a passer. Not to mention if they raced in a 100 yd dash Kap would smoke tebow by 10 yds
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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:57:38 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

Action Magnet 


Of course I am 2 hrs from San Fran (Central Coast of ca ) 


Lots of 49er love in fact 90% lol 

" kap is better then flacco" 

"San far defense is better then Baltimore" 

This is all I hear all day , and in Vegas believe me the 49 er love will be overwhelming on game day in Vegas !!!! 

If you think otherwise , you have no idea of the 49er love in Ca right now 

And Ca butts up to Vegas of you didn't know already 




only this area has niner backers high %.. Of course any local would... but if you look at the books... people are leaning on balty to win and win SU more.......
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Posted: 1/31/2013 12:00:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

^^^^^ mushroom head 

The line opens -3.5 49ers it got pounded to -4.5 to 5 or eve -5.5 at some
Places apparently .......



You are  the fool ..... Line got pounded on 49ers 



Wake the F up


Most places opened at 4.  It touched 4- and 5 very briefly at a few places.  But for the most part, it remained 4 and now 3-.  It's pretty much settled in at 3- now.

As I type, there are 62,300 wagers being reported, with 59% on Balt, 51% on Balt ML, 59% on over, and 59% Balt in exotics.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 1:52:47 PM
did someone really try to compare Colin Kaepernick to Tim Tebow?



btw, thawv... those numbers are not correct... just FYI!
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Posted: 1/31/2013 2:04:12 PM
The game is still about speed. Balt will not cover sf. Too many good match ups for San Fran.  Ray will get beat all day if he has to cover one on one. They will attack him and he will tire
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Posted: 1/31/2013 2:05:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thawv:



Most places opened at 4.  It touched 4- and 5 very briefly at a few places.  But for the most part, it remained 4 and now 3-.  It's pretty much settled in at 3- now.

As I type, there are 62,300 wagers being reported, with 59% on Balt, 51% on Balt ML, 59% on over, and 59% Balt in exotics.

The superbowl is really hard to figure out a consensus.  62,300 wagers?  That must be isolated to one city in the United States.  This game will be bet across the country and non-gambler tickets will probably outnumber regular gamblers.  There will be increased worldwide action also.  Good luck trying to get a real grasp on total number of wagers in play.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 2:22:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

Action Magnet 


Of course I am 2 hrs from San Fran (Central Coast of ca ) 


Lots of 49er love in fact 90% lol 

" kap is better then flacco" 

"San far defense is better then Baltimore" 

This is all I hear all day , and in Vegas believe me the 49 er love will be overwhelming on game day in Vegas !!!! 

If you think otherwise , you have no idea of the 49er love in Ca right now 

And Ca butts up to Vegas of you didn't know already 







thanks for the lesson in geography.... but maybe someone who has lived in Vegas their entire life is better qualified to tell you whether or not people in Vegas give a flying garbage about anything that exists in California...


THEY DO NOT!



let me ask you something... when the Boston Red Sox are in the World Series, do all the people in New York root for them?



if you are in a Vegas sportsbook during this Super Bowl, and the Ravens score a TD, the noise you hear will be twice as loud as you would hear if the 49ers score a TD... it will be an overload of Ravens support...

i know this... i have been in Vegas for about 30 Super Bowls...
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Posted: 1/31/2013 3:05:42 PM
Lets also add this into the mix:

Balt ranks #2 in red zone defense (tds allowed in comparison to red zone opportunities)

San Fran ranks #27 - San Fran has also allowed 72% tds on red zone opportunities on the road compared to 45% at home.

Balt Defense has allowed two of the most potent offenses in the league 4 TDs in three playoff games also
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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:08:09 PM
Anybody like the Over?
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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:26:59 PM
SF is going to win ...no one is mentioning Aldon smith . He's the defensive player of the year and he is going to get to fluko. We will shut down ray rice and pitta . Make fluko take shots deep under pressure which will lead to ints. They barely beat us when wen had a 
ALex smith starting . They can't stop all of our weapons were the deadliest team in the nfl period. And the ref that's reffen the game is on our team lol. 45 points vs buf and 40+ points vs gb n he was the ref . 
See u all in Vegas ...MGM or palazzo ..not sure yet 
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Posted: 1/31/2013 6:58:16 PM

nick gavin,

your an idiot. why u such a hurry, the game is still 3 days away. plus i bet you can't even name either teams offensive linemen, do you think they have an impact on the outcome of the game. It sounds like  your saying vegas not only knows whot is going to cover, but makes them the underdog.

Thats ridiculous! 

Also, one more point, if the majority of action (65%) is coming in on baltimore, don't you think they would of moved the line to a safe number like +3?

But your right, Vegas likes to give away money.

IDIOT

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Posted: 1/31/2013 8:11:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dimndimn:


The superbowl is really hard to figure out a consensus.  62,300 wagers?  That must be isolated to one city in the United States.  This game will be bet across the country and non-gambler tickets will probably outnumber regular gamblers.  There will be increased worldwide action also.  Good luck trying to get a real grasp on total number of wagers in play.


I'm not saying the numbers of wagers is correct.  The site I use is reporting this.  I'm quite sure that not all off shore books are reporting to this site.  But this is what is said about the ones reporting their action.  Even with this very small sample, it will probably exceed 250,000 plays.  Big games usually range between 100k and 125k on this site.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:55:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:


thanks for the lesson in geography.... but maybe someone who has lived in Vegas their entire life is better qualified to tell you whether or not people in Vegas give a flying garbage about anything that exists in California...

THEY DO NOT!

if you are in a Vegas sportsbook during this Super Bowl, and the Ravens score a TD, the noise you hear will be twice as loud as you would hear if the 49ers score a TD... it will be an overload of Ravens support...

i know this... i have been in Vegas for about 30 Super Bowls...


I havent been in vegas my whole life, just about 12 years now (born and raised in sacramento so naturally a nor-cal sports fan) and I agree 1000% with Ice. Ive watched hundreds of games at sportsbooks in vegas and cali teams dont mean garbage, people are all about the smart bet no matter if its the wizards playin the lakers or the chargers playing the dolphins.

I can almost promise that if u were to watch the SB at any book in vegas there will be more ppl cheerin for BAL than SF
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Posted: 2/1/2013 6:19:59 AM

Its funny ,Im hearing the Niner picks from fans of the team, or Raven haters , that lost a bundle going against them on  there way to becoming the most consistent playoff winning team over the last few years.Ending with beating the 2 best QBs in the league  and there division winning teams.  Ravens time this year  31-24

Better QB, Better O line ,Better Recievers,RB and Coaches ,even.

Better Special Teams , Def.still gotta give edge to SF  

 

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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:50:46 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

Underdogs r the best bet in NFL 


Do u want articles supporting this theory ? 


Google it ;) u will find the answers ;)
no no no > how many game Underdogs win in super bow ???
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:11:27 PM
balty is a stone cold mortal lock and the +4 is straight up thievery ....u shd be arrested for betting   balty...it is   stealing!   
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