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Posted: 1/10/2013 7:40:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PyRish7:

what has really helped me is to just do things like fantasy football or those fan duel leagues. they keep your mind on the fact that you are still gambling in a way but fantasy lasts all season and the stakes aren't nearly as high mostly. good luck to you and see you tomorrow at the bookies house

1000% agree with you man ... that's what saved me too, pools and fantasy leagues (with a year end payout)
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:41:03 AM
200k.. thanks for your post and I wish you well... hopefully years from now you can look back and laugh about how awful the whole thing was.. I commend Yesterdays post #49.. I agree and feel this is the only answer.. 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 2:03:51 AM
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Posted: 1/11/2013 2:16:25 AM
Rehab, maybe?
http://www.bluff.com/magazine/broken-the-erick-lindgren-story-6094/
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Posted: 1/11/2013 3:30:53 AM
The problem with gambling is that it will never be enough for most people. If you win $100 you feel like you lost $900 because you could have bet $1000. So, the sick stroy begins with wins/losses/chases and going on tilt. Most people dont have a end game. There is no magic number they hope to reach and then quit.

Nope, it all for the momentary rush of having money on a 3 hour event. The anticipation and the feeling of being correct is a feeling people who dont gamble wont/cant understand.

I bet on sports almost every day of the year. I have tailored my betting to fit my life, not vice versa. I scope out the games the night before and check out the lines. Then in morning, I take about 20 minutes out to go over the games (colleg bball/nba), whereas football you have all week to look at stuff. I never bet "huge" (going all in or 50% of bankroll), but I will have some larger plays when I'm on a roll. I still do tiny parlays. Not because I dont know they are sucker bets, but because I like the challenge and the entertainment value I can get for a tiny amount of money. Ive hit a few 6/7 team underdog ML parlays at ridiculous prices. Sure, over the years I will probably give it all back making those plays, but Ive made peace with that. I dont do this for a living. If you can keep gambling a "hobby", you are much better off.

The hardest thing for me is pulling myself away from my phone to check scores when I'm out or with the family. I know its f'n annoying to everyone else around me and its actually quite rude. I am getting much better as I get older though.....it takes time.

good luck to all my fellow gamblers
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Posted: 1/11/2013 7:00:26 AM
Post #49 says it all.

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Posted: 1/11/2013 7:33:12 AM

My opinion is that ALOT of people use gambling as a get rich quick scheme. It doesn't work that way and you will end up losing. Money management is key. That's much easier said than done, nevertheless if you never management your money properly than you're goign to fail. Not only that, gambling is an emotional sport too. You have to be strong enough to take a loss, any loss. 
 
And I'm not saying anything new, but sometimes you have to hear it to put things back into perspective.

I wouldn't say everyone who gambles isn't succesful at it, but it's obvious that most people aren't. That's a good thing. If everyone was successful there wouldn't be any real opprotunity to make any money.

Just like any business, it takes a special kind of person to know how to run one.

It's all about going in with a game plan and sticking to it.

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Posted: 1/11/2013 7:34:44 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

The hardest thing for me is pulling myself away from my phone to check scores when I'm out or with the family. I know its f'n annoying to everyone else around me and its actually quite rude. I am getting much better as I get older though.....it takes time.

good luck to all my fellow gamblers


+1
My gf mom hates when I'm on my phone. I never tell her I'm on it to check scores tho haha.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 5:11:30 PM
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with AFN on this one. Sports Betting is much like being a stock investor. Few can actually make money doing it but it CAN be done with the proper education, discipline, strategies, etc. Most people look at it as an easy way to make money, but in reality it's like any other profession that takes a lot of time and resources to be successful. For some people like yourself it is an addiction and if you can't control it, you're better off sticking to your day job...
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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:42:21 PM
call 8882356861 and ask for mike. 200k wouldnt be considered juice in my lifetime. step up playa!!! these guys will get you on the right track.. money management and self control. this is the help you need!!
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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:44:37 PM
come on bro you could not have won 49 out of 56 wagers, while its statistically possible is so amazingly improbable

i cant believe that part, i'm sorry


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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:56:49 PM
IM IN VEGAS GAMBLING RIGHT NOW 


I LOVE THIS SHHIT
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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:58:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

The problem with gambling is that it will never be enough for most people. If you win $100 you feel like you lost $900 because you could have bet $1000. So, the sick stroy begins with wins/losses/chases and going on tilt. Most people dont have a end game. There is no magic number they hope to reach and then quit.

Nope, it all for the momentary rush of having money on a 3 hour event. The anticipation and the feeling of being correct is a feeling people who dont gamble wont/cant understand.

I bet on sports almost every day of the year. I have tailored my betting to fit my life, not vice versa. I scope out the games the night before and check out the lines. Then in morning, I take about 20 minutes out to go over the games (colleg bball/nba), whereas football you have all week to look at stuff. I never bet "huge" (going all in or 50% of bankroll), but I will have some larger plays when I'm on a roll. I still do tiny parlays. Not because I dont know they are sucker bets, but because I like the challenge and the entertainment value I can get for a tiny amount of money. Ive hit a few 6/7 team underdog ML parlays at ridiculous prices. Sure, over the years I will probably give it all back making those plays, but Ive made peace with that. I dont do this for a living. If you can keep gambling a "hobby", you are much better off.

The hardest thing for me is pulling myself away from my phone to check scores when I'm out or with the family. I know its f'n annoying to everyone else around me and its actually quite rude. I am getting much better as I get older though.....it takes time.

good luck to all my fellow gamblers

WOW , Just read the first line soo Fkin  true man...This Post by Train69 everyone should read...It has no bottom!! Deep Man

Most truthful post i seen Bottom line 

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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:58:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GunShard:

I only bet $100 per bet because it's sharp gambling this way.

 

My personal rules on sports gambling: First rule is the most important one for all gamblers.

1. Money management. Bet less than 5% of your total current bankroll per. Be discipline.
2. Be a strategic gambler by picking your spots and wait for the right opportunity. Never be a compulsive gambler by betting because it's your favorite team or for the action.
3. Stay emotionless all the time. Bet like a robot. There's no place for emotions in this profession. Be unbiased.
4. Do your research by watching game footage, use trends and statistics on division rivals only.
5. Never bet on heavily juiced/vig lines. Like a line at -1000 for example.
6. Never bet on heavily valued lines. Like a terrible team at 100 to 1 odds to win championship.
7. Parlays should be no longer than 2 teams, the bigger the parlay is, the bigger the House Edge. Research and Secure your first pick before moving on to your second pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89HtJmQgjww
8. Teasers should never pass through the zero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP3P9OJvukQ


Buddy that ship has sailed. OP doesn't need your self righteous bs. This is not a strategy topic. This guy clearly has a problem and what you're saying will never work for him. I think you honestly know that. So what was the point of posting this? To make him feel worse or yourself better? 

OP the best thing you can do is forgive yourself and walk away forever. Somebody who bets 15 games a day is in way too deep man. I hope things get better for you, but that won't happen unless you walk away completely. 

If you had 200k to begin with and it was not built from gambling then you clearly have a specialized skill. Focus on that skill and leave gambling forever my man. 
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Posted: 1/15/2013 12:00:04 AM
let me rephrase that what makes the 49 out of 56 so unbelievable is you said college hoops.  hoops at the nba or college level is so dificult to beat something like 49/56 times because all it takes is one of your key shooters to go cold and youre dead, or the other teams hottest shooter go crazy and you lose, if youre on the under a hot shooter on each team kills you, if youre on the over then cold shooters,

way way way too unpredictable to win 49 out of 56, sorry brother, just not believable,  did you make that up or do you really believe that??
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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:30:34 PM

Blowing $200K  = Losing regard for money a long time ago. Should've started a business with that money... could've at least wrote off all potential loses. I appreciate the honesty, allows you to remain anonymous, but still release some pain by admitting it to others...

Bottom line - Parlays won't work. Straight bets will, but you need a few things... You absolutely need a goal and a plan if you're using betting as a means to an end. Are you? (anyone) ...OR is this an open-ended journey to make a few dollars and juice up the games? (if it is, then there is no end... and you will surely lose your money)

Want turn $1K into $20K? Emotional stability and mental discipline are keys. Stick to 1 sport and watch every team's result, every day. Get a feel for what the teams are doing, check their history (this year, and sometimes years past)... look for patterns in the wins and loses and overs and unders... then bet SPOTS. This will give you an intuitive feel for what's going on, allow you to make sound betting decisions ... And Win more than you lose.

You'll need patience. You'll need to control your urge to parlay. You'll need to treat betting seriously and get in tune with what the heck is going on in that 1 single sport...

Betting is like dieting and getting in shape. If you don't have goals, you will go up and down month after month, year after year... BUT - if you do have goals and you are serious about them you will discipline yourself (and your mind) to adapt and overcome...

You MUST have a means to an end. You must have a monetary goal... and you MUST have discipline.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:43:23 PM

I just state this because it seems so one sided the other way....

It is possible to make good profit betting sports longterm.

Not everyone is destined for the pitfalls.  If you are one who is, stop as soon as you can.  Its pretty simple actually.  You know if you are or not.  Everyone does.  Most cant admit it.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:49:40 PM
Good luck on your next bet.


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Posted: 1/15/2013 3:59:54 PM
If u bet life changing money then you will get yourself in this position. I bet $20-100 a game and love it.  I quit for 2 seasons after going broke and then some.  What I realized is that it was an ego thing.  "I know more than Vegas". WRONG.  Will I retire with my gambling winnings-no, but I won't go broke gambling either. 
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Posted: 1/15/2013 4:00:53 PM
There's a reason why vegas makes money, they have genious'

mathematicians
statisticians
and people like some on this website who can handicap, and they develop lines that are smart.

A smart gambler knows how to read and understand the lines, knowing ultimately that there is no guarantee but there is a smart wager.

Whatever you're doing it's not right. And I don't know how you could condone to yourself, increasing bets exponentially when your were failing.

Gambling, is fun, and millions do it conservatively.

You have a problem and need help. Gambling for you again in your life is an absolute nono. Never again man, it's unfortunate but that's the decision you made by blowing such a significant portion of money.

It's not fair to be bitter and say that no one should do it, or make others feel bad that they do it, you just were senseless.

That being said, you can be a role model to other who may be slipping into kind of problem, but one of the previous posters was right, women hate it if you let gambling control you, and betting on so many games and being paranoid about watching scores is a sad way to live a life.

With all that money you could have been single $20 bets for a long long time.

You did the right thing coming here, but having a gambling problem this bad and typing covers.com - is a horrific start to a new life.

You need help man, this site needs to go.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 6:48:38 PM

Gambling is an addiction, like smoking or drinking. Or shootin coke. Lets not sugar coat that, ever. Like Train says it will never be enough, what we win,  and sometimes the losing is the unspeakable thing we really crave. In my smoking life of a 30 year pack a day habit I have quit for at least a year 4 times in the last 10 years. To prove to myself I could do it, to save money, to live longer etc. etc. (I use every excuse when i fall off the wagon, playing  blues in smoky bars, dating a chick 25 years younger, a death in the family) We must assert our will power from time to time, take control of our lives. If gambling has taken control of your life then it doesnt matter if you win big next Sunday, you have already lost. To lose 200 k i figured the parlays were part of it but it goes to something deeper like someone here mentioned, having other interests and spending on THEM rather than constantly playing the games because they have supplanted all other pleasures or desires  not good   ...... The House fires Blackjack dealers if they cant deal a certain amount of hands per hour. You figure out how that applies to sportsbetting.... I came to this site to share  as well as participate and learn from an addiction that need NOT  be deadly but can be.....Keep track of your winnings and losses...see what you can live with    most important prove to yourself occasionally you can live WITHOUT it.....

ps  i aint had a smoke this year yet and am EVEN gambling..................

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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:57:15 AM
This thread is really inspiring. The gambling world is somewhat of a "bad" people type of world. To think that there are some people actually telling this guy the right advice of seeking help is great. Some people do not have limits when it comes to gambling and once they hit rock bottom, depression sets in.

During the gambling phase, social decay happens and when you need someone, they might not be there anymore which causes people to be depressed. I feel like he came on covers to voice his problems because perhaps no one is listening or he/she couldn't turn to anyone. I'm glad there are at least decent people in this site and telling him the right thing to do: get help.

I majored in psychology and I can definitely tell you that gambling can be an addiction. I wish you the best of luck down200k and seek some help.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:42:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

The problem with gambling is that it will never be enough for most people. If you win $100 you feel like you lost $900 because you could have bet $1000. So, the sick stroy begins with wins/losses/chases and going on tilt. Most people dont have a end game. There is no magic number they hope to reach and then quit.

Nope, it all for the momentary rush of having money on a 3 hour event. The anticipation and the feeling of being correct is a feeling people who dont gamble wont/cant understand.

I bet on sports almost every day of the year. I have tailored my betting to fit my life, not vice versa. I scope out the games the night before and check out the lines. Then in morning, I take about 20 minutes out to go over the games (colleg bball/nba), whereas football you have all week to look at stuff. I never bet "huge" (going all in or 50% of bankroll), but I will have some larger plays when I'm on a roll. I still do tiny parlays. Not because I dont know they are sucker bets, but because I like the challenge and the entertainment value I can get for a tiny amount of money. Ive hit a few 6/7 team underdog ML parlays at ridiculous prices. Sure, over the years I will probably give it all back making those plays, but Ive made peace with that. I dont do this for a living. If you can keep gambling a "hobby", you are much better off.

The hardest thing for me is pulling myself away from my phone to check scores when I'm out or with the family. I know its f'n annoying to everyone else around me and its actually quite rude. I am getting much better as I get older though.....it takes time.

good luck to all my fellow gamblers


GREAT POST. MY WIFE IS ALWAYS TELLING ME TO PUT MY PHONE AWAY AND STOP LOOKING AT THE SCORES LOL.  I HAVE BEEN GETTING BETTER THO
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Posted: 1/29/2013 4:00:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by shooter15:



Goodluck guys lets beat the books tonight! Nonetheless I think OKC -10 is maybe the lock of the year.


Reading these posts from a few weeks ago. Saw this one. Just another reason why you don't gamble. OKC favored by 10, shooter15 calls it a lock of the year, and OKC loses straight up. Kinda like the Celtics on Sunday. "Rondo's out?! Load up on MIA. Who cares if they cover. Moneyline is a lock!" Yeah, and then the Celtics win. DON'T GAMBLE.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 4:03:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

The problem with gambling is that it will never be enough for most people. If you win $100 you feel like you lost $900 because you could have bet $1000. 

This may be the truest thing anyone has ever written on this website. And yet, another reason why you don't gamble.
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