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Posted: 11/27/2012 3:17:32 AM

list of thinks  fix

1-stars  wars

2-csi miami

3-rocky  4

4-field of dream

5-maybe  all  of  disney  movies  except cinderella-peter pan-jumbo-snow white,pirates of caribean is  trhue and  also  flipper

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#177
Posted: 11/27/2012 5:18:53 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by liontri:

People are not talking about those blow-out games. Talking about those close games. Actual incident, team "A" was up 4 and favoured by 3. With 6 seconds left, they were getting ready to punt. They had 2 options, either punt the ball or the punter could run around and fall down to end the game. They called a timeout and when play resume, the punter took the snap from the 50 yard line and ran all the way back to his endzone to give the other team a safety and ended the game. So, they ended up winning by 2 when favoured by 3. Ask yourself, why the hell did he did that for? Just ask yourself that.


one good example was the thursday night game SF vs Seattle where Seattle was called for a safety and it was declined...wow. to accept sf go up by 2 scores. but coach rejected and took over on downs.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 6:05:54 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FixedNoDoubt:

no one will ever know the answer to who ARE involved.  However, whoever are involved are sure to have extra incentive in their pockets.  Money silence all evidences!

As I say, it is complicated.  Take sample last night Giants vs GB.  Public money were heavy on GB and OVER.

all final wager entered into the system and the risk calculated as followed:

if single bet GB win payout = $500 mil

if single Giants win payout = $200 mil

if single Over win payout = $300 mil

if single Under win payout = $100 mil

if parlay GB+Over win payout = $400 mil

if parlay GB+Under win payout = $300 mil

if parlay Giants + Over win payout= $800 mil

if parlay Giant + Under win payout = $150 mil

.....From here the system can instinctly calculate the lowest risk payout and the outcome will come into play.  Therefore, sometime you see 1 public win and 1 loss depending the lowest payout of all combined risks in their system.

 


only if we have these figures somewhat accessible we can beat the system.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:18:54 AM

[Quote: Originally Posted by salsaboy27]
only if we have these figures somewhat accessible we can beat the system.

come on salsa !!!!!!  you really  think players of games (100 totals+coach etc....) knows  that   !!!!!!!!  they dont  care  about  that ,you  really  think players   risk big  injuries  (concusion)lol   you know  your  foot come on  !!!!  do you  ever  played  ? me  yes   is  not  a  single  sport  my  friend   !!!!

look  game  miami-seattles,do you  think  someone  call wilson or tanehill  and  said''hé   boy  only  14  points  and  first  half  do points  many peoples bets  under !!!!!!,........?  be  serious  ,find me player only one ,just one since  100  years  who  can confirm  game  is  fixed  ?

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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:55:00 AM
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another secret that I will tell you is I actually got plus money on SF and the NYG game. I took SF -3 and NYG -3 both at +110 the reason behind these bets is simple, first its prime time game and action are both lopsided. Now "the authority" doesn't like to lose to teasers, and these two games has teasers written all over it. I know its going to be more than 7 points or more on the spread, although I almost doubted myself a few times when SF keep on missing the fieldgoals at the end, because I was afraid the Drew Brees can score a last minute TD drive to make my bet a push at -3. I shouldn't because the authority was very greedy.

Come on people, give me some feedback here, I am bored as hell and no one wants to bash me?lol,this  one  is  good  !!!!!!

pathetic !!!!!!  you  lost  what ? your car  ?housse ?  wife  ?which sport  you played ?  bingo !!!!!   in pinacle  teaser  at  6,6.5,7,10  and 13  your crazy bigger  than your  doctor  can think  !!!!go     in florida in dog race  and  bet  on the  rabbit you  will win every time,your  just a looser  since 30  years  who  cry  like  a baby  after  each game  you loose  by 1 or  2  or  3  points who dont understand the  game   !!!!!!!......take  care  luke skywalker exist and  santa  clauss  to..... 

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Posted: 11/27/2012 8:04:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by casinoroyal:

bunny651

have you ever play Baccarat? I saw him at the Casino one time and he stood there for over an before he made a bet. He won that hand, because there's a pattern in Baccarat, just like there's a pattern in the NFL.

Yes and that's what the casinos want people to believe, too. As a matter of fact, the casinos provide the so-called "patterns" to players now through the small flatscreen by the table. Do you think they would do that if they think it provides any kind of advantages to the players?

The game is been around for a long time. ANY type of preceived advantages had been thoroughly tested out by both sides. Mathematically, each hand is independent. Some might argue the cards already out would affect the later hands but 1) they don't use the whole shoe, 2) you can't predict the sequence.

Finally, you are comparing apples with oranges in terms of NFL games and a table game. Why? It's because there's a line in NFL and the line deals with reality as well as perception while in a table game, it's HARD stats ONLY.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 9:35:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by liontri:

People are not talking about those blow-out games. Talking about those close games. Actual incident, team "A" was up 4 and favoured by 3. With 6 seconds left, they were getting ready to punt. They had 2 options, either punt the ball or the punter could run around and fall down to end the game. They called a timeout and when play resume, the punter took the snap from the 50 yard line and ran all the way back to his endzone to give the other team a safety and ended the game. So, they ended up winning by 2 when favoured by 3. Ask yourself, why the hell did he did that for? Just ask yourself that.
i'M SORRY BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT TO ME, NEVER HAPPEN!
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#183
Posted: 11/27/2012 9:41:08 AM
Who specifically is fixing these games?  Refs? Players? Coaches?
Someone or more so several someones need to be involved to fix a game.
Be specific instead of making moronic statements.
Maybe it was Aaron Rogers this week since they got waxed by the Giants?
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:54:49 AM
[Quote: Originally Posted by Bumblebee] Who specifically is fixing these games?  Refs? Players? Coaches?
Someone or more so several someones need to be involved to fix a game.
Be specific instead of making moronic statements.
Maybe it was Aaron Rogers this week since they got waxed by the Giants?
waouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu bravo  big,he  can not tell  who  because  his  mother  play  bingo  and  the animator  never call  a number in  N  row in midle  and  since  this  day  this moron fammily  think  all  is  fixed except  stars  wars,gumby  and happy gilmore,he is  a  clown  !!!!
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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:42:53 AM
Its been a pleasure reading these posts on this topic. My conclusion..Yes, SOME games are fixed and we'll never really know which ones are, thats why vegas allllllways wins in the end. And Californiadreamin is the dumbest human being on this site. But in his eyes hes the smartest human being alive because he spells correctly and believes with all the money involved in the NFL that it isnt fixed. What a Genious!!!!
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:00:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by abadboycali:


NBA :

SA -5.5: 97% . POR -1: 95% .  NY -1 : 79%.

Im on the opposite :

WAS +5.5 . DET +1 . NJN +1.

If It came out  1-2 . I quit NFL 


wtf happen , man , I wanna quit NFL , but they dont let me do it . The game came out 2-1 . I win again . Yup . Thats how I chose my picks , fading the public.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:06:56 PM
Personally I think not all the games are fixed. Is the market here to determine if the game is fixed or not. Only games are heavy waged on on side are fixed. Vegas never wanted to fix any game and waste time to create drama. They can make their money from juice if they game is 50/50. For example NYG/GB game is fixed cause its heavy wagered on one side.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:21:18 PM
My cuz always asks me why bet on the games if it's rigged.  Simple answer for close minded people, it's to try to figure out which way it's rigged.  Nba if most of the money is on the under they get the green light to play fast paced and score as much as they can.  I've seen it with the Hornets. Nfl its good to go against the public, but what throws that off is quarter and ESP halftime lines.  
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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:38:34 PM

In the 100th Grey Cup Final game in the Canadian Football League played last Sunday in Toronto between the Toronto Argonauts and the visiting western champs the Calgary Stampeders the total opened at 54.5 and as the week grew old it moved slowly upwards 55, 55.5 and finally to 56.

With the -1.5pt home dog Toronto Argonauts holding a 35-15 lead late into garbage time, the Calgary Stampeders did the ole giddy up and get one to make the score look a bit more respectable for the history books or?...did a call come from way above for them to do that and then do something that made NO SENSE AT ALL.

Instead of kicking for the point after Calgary's coaching staff experienced what might best be described as a "brain fart" and for some unknown reason ran a play to get two points instead of simply kicking for the point after.The announcers on the radio were perplexed by the event, but most of us listening or watching with a bet on the total KNEW exactly why Calgary went for two points over the easy one via kicking despite that result contributing in no way to increasing the amount of doughnuts in their oven.The fat lady had already sung her song and scoring that two point play instead of simply kicking for ONE EXTRA POINT was WRONG. final Toronto 35 Calgary 22 and voila!! 57 points.

Fixed or not that was something to think about. I was going to play the total under all week and waited for the number to climb, but in the end I held off for some reason..

Regards  .

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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:58:43 PM
en francais  quelqu'un qui hallucine  on dis  de lui  il  voit  des mouches   !!!!  en english  is  what  ?
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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:40:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 23skidoo:

In the 100th Grey Cup Final game in the Canadian Football League played last Sunday in Toronto between the Toronto Argonauts and the visiting western champs the Calgary Stampeders the total opened at 54.5 and as the week grew old it moved slowly upwards 55, 55.5 and finally to 56.

With the -1.5pt home dog Toronto Argonauts holding a 35-15 lead late into garbage time, the Calgary Stampeders did the ole giddy up and get one to make the score look a bit more respectable for the history books or?...did a call come from way above for them to do that and then do something that made NO SENSE AT ALL.

Instead of kicking for the point after Calgary's coaching staff experienced what might best be described as a "brain fart" and for some unknown reason ran a play to get two points instead of simply kicking for the point after.The announcers on the radio were perplexed by the event, but most of us listening or watching with a bet on the total KNEW exactly why Calgary went for two points over the easy one via kicking despite that result contributing in no way to increasing the amount of doughnuts in their oven.The fat lady had already sung her song and scoring that two point play instead of simply kicking for ONE EXTRA POINT was WRONG. final Toronto 35 Calgary 22 and voila!! 57 points.

Fixed or not that was something to think about. I was going to play the total under all week and waited for the number to climb, but in the end I held off for some reason..

Regards  .


haha so true man , I thought the game went under , But later time on I checked the score , and It went over . lolz . Remind me of Canadian Football ,lolz, CFL . Last time I bet on the Under as well. 1H Under 23 : the game between EDM @ WIN on July 26th. haah 1Q : 1pt . then the 2Q came : 24 pt. only 7second left , and they threw a TD , lmao . Me and my friend watched it our jaws dropping , lmao.

and the week 6 after that week , I bet under again on game MONT @ WIN under 56 : lmao . by the end of 3Q , It went MONT 21-3 . I thought my Under was good. lmao . 4Q : they scored 38pt. It end MONT 36-26. We were like wtf  just happened??? lmao . They wanted the game went OVER , and It went OVER . lmao.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:41:41 PM
The NFL has the most lucrative TV deals on TV.  Every network wants to host an NFL game.  garbage there is a bidding war for the Super Bowl.  To think they need a fix is just mind baffling.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:45:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by abadboycali:


NBA :

SA -5.5: 97% . POR -1: 95% .  NY -1 : 79%.

Im on the opposite :

WAS +5.5 . DET +1 . NJN +1.

If It came out  1-2 . I quit NFL 






 


I win 2-1 . I rest my case here.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:49:09 PM
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I win 2-1 . I rest my case here.

How many times you gonna tell us about this one scenario.  Funny werent you guys saying Philly and the under was the call last night.  I rest my case.  Your an idiot.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:51:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by x5x0x4x:

My cuz always asks me why bet on the games if it's rigged.  Simple answer for close minded people, it's to try to figure out which way it's rigged.  Nba if most of the money is on the under they get the green light to play fast paced and score as much as they can.  I've seen it with the Hornets. Nfl its good to go against the public, but what throws that off is quarter and ESP halftime lines.  

yup man lmao , b2b game on Hornets . In result , It was road dog of 13pt , And they blew out the LAC at Staples Center. Unbelievable. I predicted the game gona be low too. lmao. 
I was on Hornets TT over on SUN vs. DEN , not a good defense team. and It came out low too , lmao.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:54:05 PM

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I think AR was part of it on Sundaynight. He came out in the second half looking very comptent and Green Bay srtated to run instead of throwing the ball, some of the fix that I have seen previously was the losing team going for the fourth down and not getting resulting in turn over of downs, However, in our case its the Giants going for the fourth down. If you think this over/under wasn't fixed you are an idiot.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:58:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mrquija27:

How many times you gonna tell us about this one scenario.  Funny werent you guys saying Philly and the under was the call last night.  I rest my case.  Your an idiot.


Did u read my post clearly??? I said worst case scenario that I break even . and I did break even  on Phi + Under @ 1H . 

Also , the 2H action changed the result of the game too . You must be fool if not taking it into the account . So I bet on the Over on 2H.  Just like the GB/NYG game . Dont you think that 2H action also affected the out come also?? and YOu must be an idiot yourself. I rest my case here.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 3:04:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by casinoroyal:

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I think AR was part of it on Sundaynight. He came out in the second half looking very comptent and Green Bay srtated to run instead of throwing the ball, some of the fix that I have seen previously was the losing team going for the fourth down and not getting resulting in turn over of downs, However, in our case its the Giants going for the fourth down. If you think this over/under wasn't fixed you are an idiot.


Like I said before , the 2H action also affect the outcome also. I watched only few min of 2H and got myself thinking , Wtf wrong with GB , They running the ball , instead of throwing the ball , lmao , They were passing offense team for god sake , Not Running team. and They were down by 3TD also. 
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Posted: 11/27/2012 3:08:50 PM

I do have to agree with skyace173

only a small percentage of NFL games are fixed, and the over/under on Sunday night was definately one of them. If you are a bettor on the NFL, trying to spot the fix all the time will not be profitable. Its very simple, you will never know which game is going to get fixed. The reason is because you don't know the final dollar amount, only the people fixing the games knows. Because so many people think alike and place wager accordingly, making the final figue hard to know for sure. If the figure comes in 60/40 then I don't think it will be tampered with. That's my observation throught out the years.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 3:14:45 PM
"People that thinks there's no fixing in sports should stop gambling"

The headline said it all. I rest my case here.
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