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Posted: 10/8/2012 8:48:22 AM
To sum it up in short: The word Fix is used to degrade the seriousness of the act of cheating: call it that some results in American Professional Sports are Premedicated
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Posted: 10/8/2012 10:56:05 AM
Mofioso Has got it Right ... Sports Are Rigged NFL ,NBA, are the most obvious ...Espically The Prime Time Games ... How else do you explain These Ridiculous situations - Torey Smith bros death .... Career day ...Favre dad dies ....career day... Hurrican katrina... Saints SuperBowl...No Peyton manning for a year ... Oh wait little brother wins...these things are pre- determined ...NBA is the most obvious ... IMO... Now for baseball im still workin out my conspiracy theory ...
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:03:10 AM
thats why you don't bet on  nationally televised games because they know everyone is betting on them, except the so called wise guys and me.  we bet on litttle known schools that don't get much attention
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:05:16 AM
lol
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:06:48 AM
It's only a fix when you lose...
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:08:09 AM
of course it is orchestrated
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:09:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by knuckleball:

thats why you don't bet on  nationally televised games because they know everyone is betting on them, except the so called wise guys and me.  we bet on litttle known schools that don't get much attention

Haha... Agreed ... You Can Find Small schools ...more For college hoops for me ... And ride them out ... Actually i prefer the Prime Time Games ... I tend to do better ... 
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:09:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by knuckleball:

thats why you don't bet on  nationally televised games because they know everyone is betting on them, except the so called wise guys and me.  we bet on litttle known schools that don't get much attention
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:10:00 AM
Your all clowns. Look how all of you talk nd get so serious. Disrespecting one another. Calling each other morons. How bout sports is fixed nd ur a idiot if u dnt think so . These r billion dollar industries, of course there will be corruption in there. Refs call the game, they decide how they want the game to go. Its so easy for a ref to fix a game and have a score turn out the way he wants to. Its like saying goverments arent corrupt. Ur idiots . U just dnt have proof that games r fixed thats y u idiots will never bielve it. But of course there are games that are fixed.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:17:52 AM
The fix is in, let the party begin......................just better be on the right side 
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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:46:57 AM
@pj702:  Wow.  You must be American...*smGDh*
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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:18:19 PM
At the end of the day, where there's money, there's corruption.  Plain and simple.  If you can bet on it, the outcome is going to be influenced by someone or something other than what you are betting on.

The is no way in the world that the folks that have to pay out for losing, is going to allow the outcome be decided by chance.  It's just not realistic. 
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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:18:47 PM
Not sure a "degenerate" has to bet the game tonite Mafioso, alot of us enjoy a Monday night "play" for 50 bucks and a bowl of popcorn.  I enjoy your posts of facts, wisdom and confidence.  But you yourself "Wolf" like to look down at most of us in here, as you stand on the rock.  As confident as you are in tainted sports, there are just as many that look at you as the crackpot, but then we are the "sheep".   Thye are two sides to everything Wolf, Romney or Obama, Sports Fixed or not, Man landed on the moon?  Oswald acted alone?  I am a conspracy theorist, I do think the NFL is a manipulated script week to week, and the Refs are the Directors.  That Saints game was the most obvious, it was Saints night on national TV, with the whole family there to be showcased and NFL to make good for bounty sentence, fans to be showcased along with Poster Boy Brees.  That is how the league is rigged, Saints were not going to lose on Saints night, and I regret not seeing it clearly before the game.     
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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:19:16 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by thawv:

At the end of the day, where there's money, there's corruption.  Plain and simple.  If you can bet on it, the outcome is going to be influenced by someone or something other than what you are betting on.

The is no way in the world that the folks that have to pay out for losing, is going to allow the outcome be decided by chance.  It's just not realistic. 

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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:50:13 PM
I do believe refs are not honest they can very easily have money on certain games and place bets.  Look at the NBA ref who was betting on games and making calls  to decide the outcome.  So it can happen.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:55:05 PM
I think the ref in lastnights game was looking for anything to call against the Chargers.  They saw Brees in trouble on that one roughing the passer call and the Chargers picked it off which would of made the it 31-14 Chargers and no Brees comeback was possible.  And did everything they could to help New orleans win on that last drive.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:58:27 PM
i don't feel the games are fixed but i feel vegas has a very good idea to set a line at a certain number knowing what will persuade people to bet on the team that most likely will not cover. They are not always right but they are majority of the time and if you think vegas just wants 50/50 action than keep thinking that and you will eventually see ur bankroll shrinking
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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:02:22 PM
I don't think anything is fixed.  I do think the handicappers that sports-books employ are far and away more talented than anyone here, and can predict game outcomes within a much smaller margin of error than we can.  For example, I think the house has a good chance of raking in mad cash tonight because they've handicapped the game and they think Houston won't win by more than 8 points.  Then people will come here and cry "fixed"! because they did 10 seconds of handicapping and were wrong.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:03:41 PM

Piggybacking off thawv's post, when you have money, you have corruption.  In the NFL, EVERY PLAY you could call holding, honestly.  In the NBA, there's fouls on EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION.  In MLB, the HP umpire has SOLE JUDGEMENT on what's a strike and what's a ball.  That's powerful, TOO powerful (and too profitable) for anyone man (or referee) to not be affected by it...

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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:12:06 PM
Any "fixing" done by actual players on the field is EXTREMELY rare. Most of the games that appear fixed look that way because professional linesmakers have their fingers on the pulse of public opinion & know how to capitalize when it's wrong.When a line seems way off or obviously wrong, it isn't because they're stupid. I do believe that the leagues, the NFL in particular, have their own agendas and/or preferred outcomes. I certainly don't feel that commisioners are above exerting a certain ammount of influence over refs to steer games towards these outcomes. But in my humble opinion, outright fixing happens very rarely.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:40:54 PM
A simple question: For those who believe in "fixes" and even have "examples" to go with it, wouldn't they be all rich by now or is it just a justicfication AFTER the fact? I don't mean any disrespect since I do think it looks fishy sometimes but I do think it's a fair question.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:46:46 PM
The Seattle/Green Bay game was a definite fix...they saw an opportunity to call a TD for Seattle and they took it.
It was clearly an interception in the endzone, but that slight opportunity to call it a TD was there.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:47:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by winner005:

Don't your see all those nba game when they keep foul with minute to go down by double digit to make game to go over? So many times they foul for no reason with game decided already. So a 85 percent foul shooter all of sudden miss both ft. garbage is fixed.

You are correct there, sometimes, to make the game go over the posted score, sometimes to surpassed the spread, so that it won't cover, either way , the plus or the minus,
So not only the nba, but also, nfl, college football, basketball Even MLB, you will never have any proof against them, because those players are humans too, and humans can make mistakes, nobody is perfect, 
So the only game that has no fixing for sure is professional Tennis, as their is no coaching involved, and you are on your own, each round you play and advance is the only money you make, besides endorsement, and I do not think you are so stupid enough, to let say Nadal or Federer to beat you up for a lousy buck, whereas each round you past is more than double each time, I used to play semi professional in the ATP, but me finishing school was more important, back then, the money isn't like what it is today.

All there is , is pointing fingers at each other, because we are all humans and can make mistakes, whether it be expressly done or not, all they can say is sorry,
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Posted: 10/8/2012 1:51:31 PM
Bettors all cry 'fix' when they lose. Does anyone of you who wear the 'fixer' tin foil hat, realize how much would be at stake to fix a result? Do you really not think it would be exposed by someone? And as always, in professional sports especially a team game, you need a team result to properly fix something--so everyone on a team is in on it? 

Comical thinking.

Also, I love how a TD pass can be 'fixed' or a 3 pointer, etc etc. Cuz you can never miss one of those, right? It's only fixed when you lose, and you friggin know it. Stop whining and grow some balls. And if it's fixed, why the darn do you keep betting? No way am I throwing down money on anything that I believe has a predetermined result. You fixer cryers are clowns and make sports bettors look like paranoid lunatics, and it really makes me enjoy these forum so much less, wish we could get rid of all of you. Go create a fixers forum where you can cry about every fix into each other's bowls of ice cream and talk about Oprah.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 2:19:17 PM
It is truth that games are influenced but I am still on the fence with straight up fixes.  Players get paid to PLAY, not WIN.  And in todays football it is very easy to say that.  The NFL labels itself as an "entertainment business"  So I know that they have major power when it comes to doing what they want when they want.  And no one is going to jail the Golden Goose while they are still at its financial mercy.  The thing I hate most about the NFL is how they Squawk about their anti-gambling squeaky clean league when the Majority of the owners made their fortune from ....wait for it.....Gambling.  So FIXED??? No not entirely, but heavily influenced yes
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