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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:09:39 AM
I would like to know who in here believes that the NFL is fixed or at least some games are fixed?  If so, who fixes them and how do they do it?  I would love to hear all of the theories that people have.  


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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:13:01 AM
Ohh shut the darn up. Games aren't fixed. It's sports garbage happens. Move on
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:13:02 AM
Anyone who thinks games in todays nfl are straight up "fixed" are friggin retarded, period.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:15:49 AM
TheSituation, Calif...I couldn't agree more.  I guess I should have stated that I do not believe that games are fixed.  (You can see that I posted it in a previous thread.)    I am just interested in hearing how people think this happens.

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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:19:58 AM
I don't believe games are fixed, but I do believe I got fucked in the Saints 2H Over tonight 

Both defenses played like garbage 1H.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:30:44 AM
The NBA was never fixed either, No rogue officials nothing of a sort.
darn OFF
and this goes to all you morons who do not believe the NFL and All major sports are on the up and up.'
Who the hell are you ignorant imbeciles to make such statements when there is proof that things arent exactly what they seem?

You all have a-lot of balls to call others names when you dont know your own fools from a hole in the ground to begin with.

You like all sheep dismiss the obvious to remain with your flock of idiots and cowards.

You have no ability to think outside the box, nor do you intend to comprehend factual data spanning from the early 70s to todays modern era.

Dan Moldea wrote one of the greatest books regarding the NFL and its fixed games called INTERFERENCE, How Organized crime influences professional football

Brian Touhay
has a website called thefixisin.net where he highlights what he believes are fixes.

Tim Donaghy an NBA referee was caught fixing games.

in 1999 there was a U of M blind study of College football referees that admitted they had a financial interest on games they worked, and no Im not gonna look it up for you as if you are dumb enough to believe its all on the up and up, You do not deserve someone to do the work for you, Go friggin do it yourself and become less of a sheep and a little bit more of a wolf.

God Damn I hate some of you so much when you post and respond so stupidly, Nothing more Id love to do then club you in your smug faces with a baseball bat and scramble your brain cells so you stop being pathetic followers and become somewhat like real men, Maybe then your women wont be coming to my place and others like me to get there rocks off.

In other words
Be friggin men and stop being the meak of the earth.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:37:46 AM
I don't believe games are fixed but these are things i'v heard things like refs can influence the outcomes of games by calling bad calls or no calls.
Bribe/Blackmail NFL players is something i heard also.
but who would actually know this , none of us are in the NFL industry.QBs have speakers to hear from Coordinators from side line and "upstairs" public never know what they are telling the QB to do.

But going off topic to what may or may not have anything to do with this.
WWE industry portray the show to come off as everything to be "real" , Real blood , real fights , and etc but we all know its fake and we have somewhat proof to the WWE being an act for entertainment but still they wont admit to that cause who would watch?
Example Floyd mayweather was host of the wrestlemania in the past years. during his time of hosting he fought with Big Show in the ring and broke his nose.
after that a few months later Floyd appeared at a radio station to talk and they talked about him hosting and he was asked if wrestling was real , he said yeah (with a smile/smurk) on his face , also said all his punches were real and blah blah blah

moral of this he knew it was fake but he had no choice unless he wanted to be sued or something  therefore he is a sellout.

I don't even know if this even made sense lol



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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:41:49 AM
Squeaks..I also lost on the 2nd half over...tough one.

Magioso - I agree that there has been and will continue to be pathetic refs like Donaghy who give the rest a bad name.  Do you believe that all games are fixed? or just some?  You can rant all you want and tell people off and call them stupid &*^*s if you like...but your post doesn't answer the question...How is this done and who does it? Do you think i've never read an article or a study that proves all of the times that people have admitted to being involved in fixing a game? I just don't believe that this happens regularly in any league.  

Did SF score a late TD today because someone told Smith that he needed the over? just an example...
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:45:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Hockeyjock:

Squeaks..I also lost on the 2nd half over...tough one.

Magioso - I agree that there has been and will continue to be pathetic refs like Donaghy who give the rest a bad name.  Do you believe that all games are fixed? or just some?  You can rant all you want and tell people off and call them stupid &*^*s if you like...but your post doesn't answer the question...How is this done and who does it? Do you think i've never read an article or a study that proves all of the times that people have admitted to being involved in fixing a game? I just don't believe that this happens regularly in any league.  

Did SF score a late TD today because someone told Smith that he needed the over? just an example...

To be honest it was kinda fishy from last week at jets they had a minute on jets 2 or 3 yard to get a TD and the line was 38.5 lol
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:46:18 AM
Have you seen the Eagles games this season?
Im 2-1 but dont you think something is really fishy with all there wins and todays loss.

1.5 to a 2 point spread last week they win by two
+3 today they lose by 2
big favorite against  they squeek by

Why would you or anyone else put it past someone of horrible human character like Michael Vick to point shave or be part of a fix?

Answer the question before spouting off a useless sheep like opinion.
We all know his financial situation, He barely has any of that money he signed for and he is no stranger to breaking the law, He is no stranger to making bad judgment decisions and he is no stranger to being a common criminal/street garbage.
the question again
Why would you or anyone else put it past someone of horrible human character like Michael Vick to point shave or be part of a fix?

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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:50:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso:

The NBA was never fixed either, No rogue officials nothing of a sort.
darn OFF
and this goes to all you morons who do not believe the NFL and All major sports are on the up and up.'
Who the hell are you ignorant imbeciles to make such statements when there is proof that things arent exactly what they seem?

You all have a-lot of balls to call others names when you dont know your own fools from a hole in the ground to begin with.

You like all sheep dismiss the obvious to remain with your flock of idiots and cowards.

You have no ability to think outside the box, nor do you intend to comprehend factual data spanning from the early 70s to todays modern era.

Dan Moldea wrote one of the greatest books regarding the NFL and its fixed games called INTERFERENCE, How Organized crime influences professional football

Brian Touhay
has a website called thefixisin.net where he highlights what he believes are fixes.

Tim Donaghy an NBA referee was caught fixing games.

in 1999 there was a U of M blind study of College football referees that admitted they had a financial interest on games they worked, and no Im not gonna look it up for you as if you are dumb enough to believe its all on the up and up, You do not deserve someone to do the work for you, Go friggin do it yourself and become less of a sheep and a little bit more of a wolf.

God Damn I hate some of you so much when you post and respond so stupidly, Nothing more Id love to do then club you in your smug faces with a baseball bat and scramble your brain cells so you stop being pathetic followers and become somewhat like real men, Maybe then your women wont be coming to my place and others like me to get there rocks off.

In other words
Be friggin men and stop being the meak of the earth.

For someone to sound so angry over something that truly isn't worth arguing about, I have my doubts about you pleasing all of our women. Sounds like the complete opposite is going on if you ask me.

Hockey - I believe Kaepernick was playing on the last TD. Not only did Harbaugh have backups in, the bills had quit by halftime.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:50:52 AM
NFL isn't fixed and definately will and has never been. Things happen, its a possibility game, there isn't any script, players decide what's going to happen in the game, sure the referees make mistakes that sometimes arent meant to happen, which result in losses, but there isn't any objectivity toward it.

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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:52:55 AM
Mafio - You make a good point.  I do believe that someone like Donaghy or Vick or anyone of "horrible human character" could do something to change the outcome of a game and benefit themselves financially.  However, i don't think that this happens on a regular basis. I don't know how they get away with it at all.  Seems like the risk is extremely high....
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:54:56 AM
Wow, you asked the Billion dollar question'
Who is fixing these games?
According to Brian Touhay its the Sports leagues themselves.

Look at today
How friggin heartwarming the colts win one for the gipper lol I can throw up.

Look at last year
the NFL needed there golden boy Tim Tebow in the playoffs and by some miracle all the teams that had to lose lost so Denver got in and then the stage was set lol'
The Golden boy christian vs the Ben Rapistburger the DEVIL
and good triumphed over evil, get hte darn out of hear

Al Davis Dies and the Raiders beat the Texans at Houston, ughhuh

Others like me still think organized crime has a hold of the leagues
In Dan Moldeas book, He shows you How most of the NFL OWNERS in the 70s and 80s were involved with organized crime figures and some owned race tracks and other gambling venues.

The proof is there for all those who arent afraid to go against the majority, but like the world today, This forum is infested with cowards and followers. 
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Posted: 10/8/2012 3:54:58 AM
Squeaks..back-up players looking for some numbers maybe? Agreed


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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:03:07 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SqueaksUofA:


For someone to sound so angry over something that truly isn't worth arguing about, I have my doubts about you pleasing all of our women. Sounds like the complete opposite is going on if you ask me.

Hockey - I believe Kaepernick was playing on the last TD. Not only did Harbaugh have backups in, the bills had quit by halftime.

Im angry when I see ridiculously stupid people make comments they know nothing about and ridicule others for there free thinking.

I should feel sorry for some of these gutless people but I dont have that emotion as part of my moral character.

some see it as a flaw I see it as an asset.

Good luck, Maybe one day you will all open your eyes and by the way, the US Government never took war heros back in the late forties and fifties and subjected them to the syphilis virus to see if it affected blacks the same way it effected white, the Tuskegee airmen  tragedy never happened.

Oh what, they admitted that? garbage when?
Oh 30 years after it happened, gotcha, but some of you if you were in that era would have denied it and followed the masses of fools.

I hope my point is made here, think about the last paragraph above before you all jump on those who believe outside the box and arent slaves to what the popular consensus is.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:06:30 AM
If so many games have been fixed, it's hard for me to believe that there aren't disgruntled players/refs who eventually have felt like they didn't get enough in return for their "services" and have decided to blackmail the people behind the fix. I'm not naive to think that players/refs are of the highest character and would never be on the take. I just don't believe it happens as often as many others seem to want to believe. Mostly, they are gamblers just looking for an excuse for why they just lost money. If you really were a gambler and really believed games were fixed, then why the darn would you still gamble?
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:12:57 AM
Where did I say it happens Often?
I pointed the Philly Fishy games and the Chuck Pagano Cancer bowl this year.

And two cases last year with Tebow getting jammed down our throats in the playoffs and the Raiders fishy win @ Houston when Al Davis died.

I should have brought up the Packer/Seattle game but we have the replacement refs to blame for that one.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:13:48 AM
Lol... Funniest thread I've seen in a while.



NFL aka National Fixed League! 

Sooner you start realizing it, the sooner you become smarter investors.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:16:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mugz:

Lol... Funniest thread I've seen in a while.



NFL aka National Fixed League! 

Sooner you start realizing it, the sooner you become smarter investors.
Best of luck to all of you.

Please help me to become a smarter investor.  Do you have anything valuable to add here?  How do you figure out what games are fixed and to lay off them?  Please start a thread every week and let us know.  
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:19:55 AM
I believe emotions can affect players and outcomes, plus adrenaline is one hell of a drug. Games like that have happened all the way done through high school. Maybe the Broncos believed God was on their side last year? Why did Torrey Smith decide to have his best game of the season so far right after his brother passed?
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:25:08 AM

Why do you think fading the forum works so well? Don't think of it as a bad thing. Certain sports may just want more parity, or feel good stories. Its not always about the money.

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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:28:26 AM
It's impossible to know every game that is being fixed, but it always helps to avoid main event games in the NFL ( Sunday, Monday and Thursday games ). I'm not claiming to know everything but I do know that a lot of questionable events occur on the main stage a lot  more frequently. This is probably one of the main reasons why people chasing are more likely to end up in a deeper hole at the end of the week. A lot of people believe its because of clouded judgement, which is partially true because a desperate gambler doesn't look at different angles like public perception. Inflated lines occur each week because a high majority of people are easily persuaded. I don't claim to know everything because I'm still learning new things about the game each week so don't take this response the wrong way. I'm just passing on some knowledge. Best of luck to all of you.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:31:42 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KyleBowler:

Why do you think fading the forum works so well? Don't think of it as a bad thing. Certain sports may just want more parity, or feel good stories. Its not always about the money.

Its all about the money and media
Media leads into money.

you think the NFL would leave a billion dollar industry to chance like the rest of us taking a chance on theses games.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by KyleBowler:

Why do you think fading the forum works so well? Don't think of it as a bad thing. Certain sports may just want more parity, or feel good stories. Its not always about the money.


Well Put,
the NFL wants parity desperately
So desperately that they set the schedules for every team in such a manner where its almost unavoidable
they want it to come down to the wire
they want playoff implications and multiple scenarios the last few weeks of the season, then they fix who they want in as Brian Tohay says and heres a direct quote.


Professional football is a battle; fought on common ground and with shared rules, but like life, only the fittest will survive.

That is the perception. The reality, as seen in two recent court cases involving the NFL, is the complete opposite.

While the NFL has surpassed Major League Baseball in television ratings to become America’s favorite pastime, there is still one perk the MLB has the NFL desires – its antitrust status.

Baseball was granted its broad antitrust status in 1922 when the Supreme Court ruled in baseball’s favor in the case Federal Baseball Club of Baltimore, Inc v. National Baseball Clubs. The short-lived Federal League (1914-15) sued the loosely connected National and America Leagues over the inability to sign away their opposition’s players. The Federal League’s complaint was based on a perceived antitrust violation. The Supreme Court shot down the Federal League’s argument, ruling that though teams crossed state lines to play games, it was “not the essential thing” as the games themselves were local events (this prior to national radio and television broadcasts).

The Supreme Court’s ruling signaled not just the final destruction of the Federal League, but the dawn of baseball’s antitrust status.

That status was challenged twice, in 1953 and again in 1972, but has always held its ground. In the 1972 case, when Curt Flood sued baseball to become a free agent, the Supreme Court ruled that it would be up to Congress to revoke MLB’s antitrust exemption. Until the recent steroid scandal that reached to the level of congressional hearings, baseball has had little to worry about in this regard.

The NFL already possesses one huge antitrust exemption courtesy of President Kennedy which allows the NFL to package its games for sale to the television networks (which brings the league upwards of $6 billion a season today).


As the NFL won in the lower courts, American Needle appealed the decision all the way to the Supreme Court in early 2010. Remarkably, the NFL backed that appeal, thinking it was a loophole to take advantage of in order to get its coveted antitrust exemption.

The Court was skeptical of the league’s stance. Justice Antonin Scalia replied to Levy, "Well, the stated purpose is to promote the game, [but] the purpose is to make money. I don't think that they care whether the sale of the helmet or the T-shirt promotes the game. They sell it to make money from the sale."





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