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#1 Posted: 8/27/2012 11:23:58 PM I got two books, and one book has Sea -2.5 (-110) and the other has Sea -1 (-122)
But the book with Sea -1 has Arizona +1 (+112) but Ari ML is +109... does this make any sense to you guys??? I like Seattle in this one, but seems like the book is trying to get Zona money... Or is this just a mistake on the books part???
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#2 Posted: 8/27/2012 11:25:02 PM the book is tryin to get zona money....seahawks will destroy them....playin head games with you. go with your gut
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#3 Posted: 8/27/2012 11:46:11 PM Yeah, I'm thinking the same... Granted it was only preseason, but Zona QBs did not look good... Just wondering why all books jumped the line to -2.5 but this book stays at -1...
Ah hell with it... locked it in already for a little more than I am comfortable with... I am thinking Russell Wilson does really good for his first real game... Seattle D should be able to get to the QBs and cause some turnovers also...
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#4 Posted: 8/27/2012 11:49:05 PM Zona wins by 10+, and the line is telling you the same......Too much Russell Wilson on espn.  |
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#5 Posted: 8/28/2012 12:01:24 AM Arizona has just as good of a defense as Seattle and a rookie qb in his 1st career start on the road laying chalk ballsy play if you take Seattle. Give me a veteran qb at home getting points vs a rookie qb making his debut.
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#6 Posted: 8/28/2012 12:14:30 AM lol skelton/kolb are veterans?
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#7 Posted: 8/28/2012 12:31:01 AM The Hawks are -3 +105 on bet365  |
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#8 Posted: 8/28/2012 12:35:29 AM "Zona wins by 10+, and the line is telling you the same......Too much Russell Wilson on espn."
Hey Train, was thinking the same thing as to maybe why the line has moved so much over the past 2 days... Regardless, I already locked it in... Just hoping I am right this time around, as I usually lose the plays I feel really confident in...
Just excited as the NFL season is right around the corner... |
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#9 Posted: 8/28/2012 2:48:53 PM Yes Kolb is a veteran. He's been in the league since 207 . Skelton ok he's not a veteran but he has played a few seasons and had more experience than Wilson. These teams are even but even you add the road rookie factor and he is favored, that is just stupid. |
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#10 Posted: 8/28/2012 3:02:09 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:
Yes Kolb is a veteran. He's been in the league since 207 . Skelton ok he's not a veteran but he has played a few seasons and had more experience than Wilson. These teams are even but even you add the road rookie factor and he is favored, that is just stupid.
Preseason games dont mean garbage. RW is a good qb, but hes short (it will effect him...vision is huge) and threw a couple bombs that could have easily been picked off. On the road, 1st career game vs a solid starting NFL defense? I'll take my chances the other way....
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#11 Posted: 8/28/2012 3:12:26 PM I'm going with Seattle...........yeah, I'm biased but the 'hawks aren't going to have to score much to win this game.......... |
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#12 Posted: 8/28/2012 4:27:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Preseason games dont mean garbage. RW is a good qb, but hes short (it will effect him...vision is huge) and threw a couple bombs that could have easily been picked off. On the road, 1st career game vs a solid starting NFL defense? I'll take my chances the other way....
This is a common misconception regarding Russel, the fact that he is short some how will affect his vision and get balls batted down too often at the line of scrimmage.
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"Only two of Wilson's incompletions in 309 passes last season were deflected. Kellen Moore had five out of 439 batted down and Andrew Luck had two passes slapped down at the line in 404 attempts. In 402 attempts, Griffin had nine, and Brandon Weeden had eight out of 564 attempts swatted. Ryan Tannehill attempted 531 passes but had a whopping 19 attempts rejected at the line of scrimmage. In his first preseason start last Friday, Tannehill continued this trend by getting four passes swatted at the line of scrimmage."
And that was playing behind a Wisconsin offensive line that in size would compare favorably with NFL caliber lineman. The same things were said regarding Drew Brees coming out of college... |
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#13 Posted: 8/28/2012 9:46:48 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by theKCco_op:
This is a common misconception regarding Russel, the fact that he is short some how will affect his vision and get balls batted down too often at the line of scrimmage.
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"Only two of Wilson's incompletions in 309 passes last season were deflected. Kellen Moore had five out of 439 batted down and Andrew Luck had two passes slapped down at the line in 404 attempts. In 402 attempts, Griffin had nine, and Brandon Weeden had eight out of 564 attempts swatted. Ryan Tannehill attempted 531 passes but had a whopping 19 attempts rejected at the line of scrimmage. In his first preseason start last Friday, Tannehill continued this trend by getting four passes swatted at the line of scrimmage."
And that was playing behind a Wisconsin offensive line that in size would compare favorably with NFL caliber lineman. The same things were said regarding Drew Brees coming out of college...
There's more to the height issue than balls being batted down, although I'll admit I do find those stats kind of surprising.
A short QB just can't see as much of what is going on downfield in terms of receivers and coverage as more of his view is blocked by his linemen.
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#14 Posted: 8/28/2012 10:11:47 PM But really can Zona move the ball at all? I know its preseason but they look horrible. If they cant get a working offensive line this team stands no chance at moving the ball. |
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#15 Posted: 8/28/2012 11:24:10 PM I am thinking the same... Zona looked to have some O-line issues when their starters were playing this past weekend... Granted, it was only preseason... But I feel Seattle's D-line is a step up from Tenn's D-line and should be able to do the same to Zona... Zona QB's have not looked good in the preseason games either... Russell Wilson looked real good against KC's starters and hoping he will perform the same in his Pro debut... |
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#16 Posted: 8/29/2012 1:57:43 AM zona far from a good defense.their secondary was terrible last year and will be again. |
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#17 Posted: 8/29/2012 8:42:51 AM Nice game to stay away from in week 1. I don't understand why anybody would be in a hurry to lay points on the road with a QB who was taking snaps in Madison,WI at this time last year.
Pete Carroll's Seahawks are 5-11 S/U on the road.
Zona won't be a good team this year, but this is a very winnable game for them under the circumstances. |
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#18 Posted: 8/29/2012 9:32:19 AM The kid from Madison is much better than anything AZ will field.........AZ will be lucky to score much less win the game. |
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#19 Posted: 8/29/2012 1:11:59 PM Stop watching pre-season and you'll be better off.
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#20 Posted: 8/29/2012 2:19:27 PM seahawks defense will put up more points than cardinals offense. so as long as wilson protects the ball, the hawks win easily.
if lynch plays (i havent heard if he'll be suspended or not) im def betting on seattle
keep in mind nobody even on the cards know who their QB will be. that cant cultivate and inspire confidence in the locker room. |
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#21 Posted: 8/29/2012 2:24:37 PM I'm not saying they'll win but RW threw over 6-3 6-4 lineman at Wisky. Doubt the height will affect anything. |
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#22 Posted: 8/29/2012 3:00:33 PM BONKERS |
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#23 Posted: 8/29/2012 3:13:19 PM This post is getting too complicated.. Seattle is starting a 5' 9" inch rookie quarterback... ON THE ROAD for heaven sake. This is a Arizona blowout. |
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