We all know Bellechik and friends have a history of cheating. He got caught in the past and the NFL brushed the new's under the carpet like nothing happened and he still has a job. This goes to show how much an organization is willing to go through just to get a win.
Arent you concern a bit that Billechik might do it again? I like the Giants, but this worries me.
Also a team that is an underdog with the vigor -120 or more...I dont remember any spread like that ever...and pats are +106?? Shouldnt the money line tell a story?
I like Giants but I am scared shit with everyone on Giants and doubting NE. I know Vegas lost big before so is this line a mistake? The total opened at 55. The last time these two played back in 07, the score was Giants 17-14. This game will be played indoor turf so will it affect the score? If this line opened at 48, I would pound the under. Since it opened so high, is the Odds maker anticipating the public to jump on the Over play inflating the line so Under is the play? I like Under play here.
So if anyone can report back with the history of the Vigor stat, it be appreciated. Never saw an Underdog with a high Vigor.
Please all comments welcome!
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We all know Bellechik and friends have a history of cheating. He got caught in the past and the NFL brushed the new's under the carpet like nothing happened and he still has a job. This goes to show how much an organization is willing to go through just to get a win.
Arent you concern a bit that Billechik might do it again? I like the Giants, but this worries me.
Also a team that is an underdog with the vigor -120 or more...I dont remember any spread like that ever...and pats are +106?? Shouldnt the money line tell a story?
I like Giants but I am scared shit with everyone on Giants and doubting NE. I know Vegas lost big before so is this line a mistake? The total opened at 55. The last time these two played back in 07, the score was Giants 17-14. This game will be played indoor turf so will it affect the score? If this line opened at 48, I would pound the under. Since it opened so high, is the Odds maker anticipating the public to jump on the Over play inflating the line so Under is the play? I like Under play here.
So if anyone can report back with the history of the Vigor stat, it be appreciated. Never saw an Underdog with a high Vigor.
No offense, but I'm backing NYG didn't happen to come across anything I "must read". I'm not really concerned with the speculation. Bet has already been placed, I feel good about it, it's a done deal in my book.
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No offense, but I'm backing NYG didn't happen to come across anything I "must read". I'm not really concerned with the speculation. Bet has already been placed, I feel good about it, it's a done deal in my book.
We all know Bellechik and friends have a history of cheating. He got caught in the past and the NFL brushed the new's under the carpet like nothing happened and he still has a job. This goes to show how much an organization is willing to go through just to get a win.
Arent you concern a bit that Billechik might do it again? I like the Giants, but this worries me.
Also a team that is an underdog with the vigor -120 or more...I dont remember any spread like that ever...and pats are +106?? Shouldnt the money line tell a story?
I like Giants but I am scared shit with everyone on Giants and doubting NE. I know Vegas lost big before so is this line a mistake? The total opened at 55. The last time these two played back in 07, the score was Giants 17-14. This game will be played indoor turf so will it affect the score? If this line opened at 48, I would pound the under. Since it opened so high, is the Odds maker anticipating the public to jump on the Over play inflating the line so Under is the play? I like Under play here.
So if anyone can report back with the history of the Vigor stat, it be appreciated. Never saw an Underdog with a high Vigor.
Please all comments welcome!
The vigor depends where you look. Some books have it at -2.5 with the vigor leaned the other way. But anytime the line is around 3 it's not unusual to have + juice.
Cheating LOL. As if a coach cheat to victory. Only way would be to apparently pay off the refs. You'd have to ask the Steelers about that.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigballer559:
We all know Bellechik and friends have a history of cheating. He got caught in the past and the NFL brushed the new's under the carpet like nothing happened and he still has a job. This goes to show how much an organization is willing to go through just to get a win.
Arent you concern a bit that Billechik might do it again? I like the Giants, but this worries me.
Also a team that is an underdog with the vigor -120 or more...I dont remember any spread like that ever...and pats are +106?? Shouldnt the money line tell a story?
I like Giants but I am scared shit with everyone on Giants and doubting NE. I know Vegas lost big before so is this line a mistake? The total opened at 55. The last time these two played back in 07, the score was Giants 17-14. This game will be played indoor turf so will it affect the score? If this line opened at 48, I would pound the under. Since it opened so high, is the Odds maker anticipating the public to jump on the Over play inflating the line so Under is the play? I like Under play here.
So if anyone can report back with the history of the Vigor stat, it be appreciated. Never saw an Underdog with a high Vigor.
Please all comments welcome!
The vigor depends where you look. Some books have it at -2.5 with the vigor leaned the other way. But anytime the line is around 3 it's not unusual to have + juice.
Cheating LOL. As if a coach cheat to victory. Only way would be to apparently pay off the refs. You'd have to ask the Steelers about that.
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