NYG vs 49ers... Lets talk this out...

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Posted: 1/17/2012 8:23:41 AM
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Originally Posted by budwiser:

And not only did they beat those quality teams they DESTROYED them

I'd like to know if the 9ers would do the same?  Didn't think so.

The 49ers already beat the Giants once. They will do it again on Sunday

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Posted: 1/17/2012 9:29:55 AM
I love the under and i just think its a good spot for SF alot of factors favor them
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Posted: 1/17/2012 10:20:22 AM

NEW ENGLAND VS NEW YORK GIANT SUPERBOWL REPEAT

NINERS GOT LUCKY WITH THE INT AND FUMBLE CLOSE TO END ZONE.   NINERS NEED TO SCORE TD TO BEAT THE GIANTS.  IF ROGER COULD NOT DO IT MAYBE ALEX SMITH CAN.   NINERS HAS PLAY 1 TEAM WITH A GOOD DEFENSE, THAT IS BALTIMORE AND THEY LOST.   NOW LET SEE IF THEY CAN BEAT THE GIANT DEFENSE.  GIANT OFFENSE CAN SLOW DOWN THE GAME AND PLAY KEEP AWAY.   NYG 19 SF 17 FINAL SCORE.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 10:26:02 AM
G MEN HERE
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Posted: 1/17/2012 10:35:42 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigWinner888:

NEW ENGLAND VS NEW YORK GIANT SUPERBOWL REPEAT

NINERS GOT LUCKY WITH THE INT AND FUMBLE CLOSE TO END ZONE.   NINERS NEED TO SCORE TD TO BEAT THE GIANTS.  IF ROGER COULD NOT DO IT MAYBE ALEX SMITH CAN.   NINERS HAS PLAY 1 TEAM WITH A GOOD DEFENSE, THAT IS BALTIMORE AND THEY LOST.   NOW LET SEE IF THEY CAN BEAT THE GIANT DEFENSE.  GIANT OFFENSE CAN SLOW DOWN THE GAME AND PLAY KEEP AWAY.   NYG 19 SF 17 FINAL SCORE.



UM they played more than ONE good defense they played the Giants and WON and played Pitt and WON.
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Posted: 1/17/2012 10:49:11 AM
Why do people give bad info good defense  Cincy WON,IN Sea WON um thats 4-1v against good defenses
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Posted: 1/17/2012 11:38:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by budwiser:

As for the Giants, they had to beat Dallas (twice), Jets, Falcons, Packers

I'd like to know if you really in your gut think the 9ers could do that

They've got home field and that's IT but home field isn't enough this Giants team is red hot, as hot as the Packers were last year, but the Packers had injuries and the Giants don't have ANY
The dallas defense was one of the worst defenses in the league and the o-line and defense choke donkey juice every year. The jets have mark sanchez lmfao. Falcons suck just as bad as dallas on o-line and defense. The packers handed the giants the game as a late christmas present with all the missed opportunities and turnovers gift wrapped. Hell yeah the 9ers could do what the giants did. The question is could the giants do what the 49ers did? Hold the saints high powered offense scoreless for 2 whole quarters?
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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:25:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ2345:

I love the under and i just think its a good spot for SF alot of factors favor them

I agree.  Lots going overlooked on the Niners I am seeing.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:40:59 PM

Lots of Giants love.

So if both teams play at full potential you guys still believe that Giants are the better team???

 

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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:45:21 PM

Weather may play a factor as a big storm is supposed to hit the bay this weekend.

Think this favors SF and makes NYG even more one dimensional.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:46:27 PM
yes i do
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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:49:21 PM
Well being a Giants fan i can tell you i feel pretty good about the Giants coming out of SF with a victory. As good as SF is i think they shot their load against NO. Gonna be real hard for them to match that intensity and emotion of last game. I really think the only way the Giants lose is if they beat themselves. 
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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:55:07 PM
NYG - 24  SF - 17

 good luck to ALL!
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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:56:58 PM
All these giants fans are ridiculous, they are prob the same people who said "49ers play no1 and saints will crush them" blahblah, going on covers now is insane peoples arguments make no sense, but I think this will be a great game, 2 good defenses, 2 offenses that are clicking right now..so I am taking the HOME team because I think there are equal teams. SF defense hits hard, Giants defense has a good pass rush, but the 49ers run the ball to set up the pass which will slow down the pass rush a bit, in my opinion do enough to win by 3 BOL
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Posted: 1/17/2012 1:31:55 PM
9ers are being completely overlooked here (just like last week).  When Whitner knocked out Thomas on the opening drive, it set the tone for the entire game.  Those turn overs were not by luck or bad bounces. The 9ers forced those turnovers by taking the game to the Saints.  Same reason they led the league in take-away margin all year long.

I am sure that Harbaugh prefers to see his guys looked at as the underdogs even if they are 2.5 favorites at the moment (I expect that to get driven down to 1 point or maybe even a pick up by game time by all the Manning lovers out there and /or all the East Coast Money)

True, the Giants have been on a roll and have been playing championship football, but you can look at this as if it will be their fifth consecutive playoff game going back to the Jets game, since losing any of those games would have eliminated them from playoff contention or knocked them out of the playoffs.  That is a lot of stress for a team to endure for an extended length of time and they have not had the luxury of a bye during that time.

Forecast calls for rain Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and maybe even Sunday in the Bay Area.  So the field will be slow and wet.  Both teams play it close to the vest and fight for field position.....Game ends up being tight and is decided by a field goal in the last two minutes.  Akers is better than Tynes so I will take my chances with the 9ers and the home field advantage here in a close one.
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Posted: 1/17/2012 1:41:07 PM
Giants shut down Gore during the regular season game and i see no reason they can't do it again. Other than Davis (who the Giants won't have in single coverage) SF doesn't really have anyone to stretch the field. Game should come down to the QB play and i'll take Eli over Smith any day. 
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Posted: 1/17/2012 1:48:38 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by RebelCoach:

9ers are being completely overlooked here (just like last week).  When Whitner knocked out Thomas on the opening drive, it set the tone for the entire game.  Those turn overs were not by luck or bad bounces. The 9ers forced those turnovers by taking the game to the Saints.  Same reason they led the league in take-away margin all year long.

I am sure that Harbaugh prefers to see his guys looked at as the underdogs even if they are 2.5 favorites at the moment (I expect that to get driven down to 1 point or maybe even a pick up by game time by all the Manning lovers out there and /or all the East Coast Money)

True, the Giants have been on a roll and have been playing championship football, but you can look at this as if it will be their fifth consecutive playoff game going back to the Jets game, since losing any of those games would have eliminated them from playoff contention or knocked them out of the playoffs.  That is a lot of stress for a team to endure for an extended length of time and they have not had the luxury of a bye during that time.

Forecast calls for rain Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and maybe even Sunday in the Bay Area.  So the field will be slow and wet.  Both teams play it close to the vest and fight for field position.....Game ends up being tight and is decided by a field goal in the last two minutes.  Akers is better than Tynes so I will take my chances with the 9ers and the home field advantage here in a close one.


Very true on many of your posts... this is going to be a defensive battle... The forecast in Sf is rain this whole week and on sunday, this doesn't help NY's chances on the slow Candlestick field... This will be a game of field position (harbaugh will try to make the game this way) and special teams will be a big factor, which gives the nod to the 49ers... Lee and akers will be a big factor in the 9ers winning this game...
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Posted: 1/17/2012 2:24:42 PM
Third and Long.  Eli  > Smith
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Posted: 1/17/2012 2:56:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NCState2008:

All these giants fans are ridiculous, they are prob the same people who said "49ers play no1 and saints will crush them" blahblah, going on covers now is insane peoples arguments make no sense, but I think this will be a great game, 2 good defenses, 2 offenses that are clicking right now..so I am taking the HOME team because I think there are equal teams. SF defense hits hard, Giants defense has a good pass rush, but the 49ers run the ball to set up the pass which will slow down the pass rush a bit, in my opinion do enough to win by 3 BOL

I agree with the lack of arguements here.  I more so agree with your theory on this game and thats why I am having a hard time picking a side.  Should be a good ol defensive battle with slight edge going to the home team.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 3:01:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by RebelCoach:

9ers are being completely overlooked here (just like last week).  When Whitner knocked out Thomas on the opening drive, it set the tone for the entire game.  Those turn overs were not by luck or bad bounces. The 9ers forced those turnovers by taking the game to the Saints.  Same reason they led the league in take-away margin all year long.

I am sure that Harbaugh prefers to see his guys looked at as the underdogs even if they are 2.5 favorites at the moment (I expect that to get driven down to 1 point or maybe even a pick up by game time by all the Manning lovers out there and /or all the East Coast Money)

True, the Giants have been on a roll and have been playing championship football, but you can look at this as if it will be their fifth consecutive playoff game going back to the Jets game, since losing any of those games would have eliminated them from playoff contention or knocked them out of the playoffs.  That is a lot of stress for a team to endure for an extended length of time and they have not had the luxury of a bye during that time.

Forecast calls for rain Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and maybe even Sunday in the Bay Area.  So the field will be slow and wet.  Both teams play it close to the vest and fight for field position.....Game ends up being tight and is decided by a field goal in the last two minutes.  Akers is better than Tynes so I will take my chances with the 9ers and the home field advantage here in a close one.

First post is a very respectable one.  I like it and strongly agree with everything. 

-Niners are so overlooked right now

-Niners did cause those fumbles and knocked the garbage out of dem boys

-Giants been rolling but I cant necessarily use this against them, this must be placed in the positive column for them.  But at same time this could go against them but I cant count on it.  This does however give the edge to Niners in the Freshness column as Niners should have more energy.

-Weather is a major check plus for Niners and the Under!

I also havent heard the east coast to west coast trip yet.  This will also hurt the fatigue of the G-men.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 3:15:26 PM

So other than Eli can throw for 300+ and the Giants just steam rolled the Pack, I havent seen very valid points to back the G-men.

Niners on the other hand have a few good points and reasoning to back them.

Leaning Niners and Under, will need some reasoning to sway me off as I have officially made my early desicion.

I have rolled with the G-men and know what they are capable of and they are capable of winning this game by 17.  I just dont see it.  I see them being tired as Rebal has pointed out.  They been having to win and going to Green Bay is one thing but Id be willing they gave it all they got.  Now they have to travel to the west where its gonna be wet and sloppy.  The Giants and Eli depend on the big play to win games.  If they dont get the big play I highly doubt they score more than 17-20.  Going backwards, the Giants will need to be able to run the ball and set up play action to even set up the big play.  I see Niners completely shutting down the run game in this one.  To start Giants run game has not been good this year and now they go up against the best.  Then you have the weather playing a major factor and slowing em down even more.  No run game means no play action, no play action means no big play, no big play means Eli in the pocket and one dimensional and Niners will bring pressure and blitzes and goodnight sweetheart Giants are toast.   So thats half the game, I see advantage Niners defense. 

 Other side of the ball, I just dont know what to expect.  Before last week I thought Alex Smith was a fraud.  I didnt know he was capable of looking just as good as Drew Brees himself.  But I have to keep an open mind to that this kid can play with the talent around him.  I 100% bet the Saints because of the one key factor Alex Smith.  Once again I find myself in the same situation.  The key factor Alex Smith.  Lets be real the Niners can run the ball and will run the ball on the Giants.  The Giants defense have been good but nothing special this year.  I expect a Niners team that will continue to force and gain 3-5 yards per rush.  Which will result in a slow paced game and will keep the Giants offense off the field and will wear down Giants defense.  This will make it so not only will Alex Smith not need to be as clutch as last week but he will have better opportunities as San Fran will show the G-men how play action is suppose to look on this Sunday.

Just my thoughts for now, I will be keeping an open mind as I see this as a very good and difficult matchup to figure out.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 3:17:29 PM
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Very true on many of your posts... this is going to be a defensive battle... The forecast in Sf is rain this whole week and on sunday, this doesn't help NY's chances on the slow Candlestick field... This will be a game of field position (harbaugh will try to make the game this way) and special teams will be a big factor, which gives the nod to the 49ers... Lee and akers will be a big factor in the 9ers winning this game...

Excellent point!  Special teams:  HUGE advantage Niners!  Akers over Tynes all day any day.  This game not only could come down to a long field goal but it probably will and Huge advantage niners.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 3:18:57 PM
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Third and Long.  Eli  > Smith

You bring up a great point.  Yes I 100% agree.  But does anyone realize how good they where against the Packers.  If Packers could just stop a few of those early that could have been a much different game.  I wont take it away from Eli but you cant depend on Eli making these plays against Niners!

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Posted: 1/17/2012 3:20:03 PM
Game like this you have to go with the best all around team, and that's the giants.
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Posted: 1/17/2012 3:27:14 PM
If it's a sloppy field i don't think either team will have the special teams advantage. And if Ginn is not playing then the edge goes to the Giants.

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