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Author: [NFL Betting] Topic: Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:34:52 AM
I would put San Diego on the latter list
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:36:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:

In the words of Herm Edwards, "You play to win the game!"

The guy wins and rallies his team. What more could any coach ask for?

I agree. And he was given the job at the best possible time. After a BYE week against some bad teams. I'll gladly say I'm wrong if he goes on a beats some solid teams. But after 5 games against shitty teams he's being called great. Really? That's a joke.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:36:22 AM

Tim Tebow would lead a game winning drive against the 72 dolphins!!!!

He also would have picked off Tom Brady to the house to stop the Pats 16-0 season.

 

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:37:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

I would put San Diego on the latter list

I can understand that. I don't put them as a great team either. But I don't see him going in there and beating the Chargers.

But it also adds to how easy his schedule is.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:40:41 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

Tim Tebow would lead a game winning drive against the 72 dolphins!!!!

He also would have picked off Tom Brady to the house to stop the Pats 16-0 season.

 

I bet he would. If his defense could hold the deficit to under a touchdown on the final drive. But nobody gives them credit. It's all Tebow.

Tebow's great but the Broncos defense allowed 15.5 ppg in the 4 games he won as opposed to Orton's 5 starts where the defense allowed 28 ppg.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:41:58 AM

Orton was a turnover machine. Saw him make horrendous throws.

How many times did Tebow turn it over tonight?

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:41:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

I agree. And he was given the job at the best possible time. After a BYE week against some bad teams. I'll gladly say I'm wrong if he goes on a beats some solid teams. But after 5 games against shitty teams he's being called great. Really? That's a joke.

Sure the bye helped to a degree, but with that talent that Denver has on offense? Are you kidding me?

Outside of LT Ryan Clady, no ONE on this offense will scare any defense. He's playing with a bunch of no name guys that plays hard and rallies around him. Imagine if he had better talent surrounding him.

You might not believe in him along with a myriad of others, but the players believe in him and as a team, they're getting it done. Bottom line.

 

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:42:36 AM

Ball control and clock management also help your defense

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:42:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

The best team he's faced this season was Detroit. And he lost. Give him competition. PLEASE. Lets see what he can do.

Record of teams starting against Kyle Orton: 29-16 (4 of 5 teams over .500).

Record of teams starting against Tim Tebow: 22-24 (1 of 5 teams over .500 which was their only loss).

The kid takes over a 1-4 garbage team that has thrown in the towel for the season and goes 4-1 getting them back to .500 yet the Tebow haters still girl, moan, and complain.

All he can do is play the teams that are scheduled yet his wins get completely disregarded by the haters because he didn’t beat a powerhouse.  Never mind that Tebow himself plays on a terrible team and was a dog in every single one of his games.

 

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:45:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kickinA:

You're better than that Sparky. All he can do is play and hope to beat whichever team is on the schedule. And before he even gets to that point, the haters have already painted him a loser just like the majority of posters didn't even give Denver a chance against the "mighty Jets" i.e. Jets were going to annihilate Den after that loss to NE, etc, etc.

And yet hurdle after hurdle, the excuses keep coming. It's time to give credit where it's due and move on.

Yes. He's won in these situations that he's been given. But all these people labeling him great are insane. He hasn't shown that he can beat a good team yet.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:45:13 AM

Listen I am a huge Tebow fan but will admit he does not have all the skill set to bew a long term NFL QB.

I believe his throwing will improve and he will get more talent around him.

Without Tebow, the Broncos would be like 2-7 right now. The guy deserved most of the credit because in the NFL the QB gets too much credit when you win and too much flack when you lose. Thats how it was before Tebow and will be after him. With that being said.

Tebow! Tebow! Tebow!!!

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:46:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

Orton was a turnover machine. Saw him make horrendous throws.

How many times did Tebow turn it over tonight?

You're right. He can't reach the reciever to make any turnovers.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:46:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

Early in Michael Vick's career ESPN went to bat for Mike and explained his stats were not indicative of his play and his ability to move around was the future of the NFL.

Vick's footwork and armslot sucked for his first 7 years in the league. There was no worse passer than him, yet he was such a threat to run that his passing stats were largely ignored by everyone except for football bettors.

Fast forward 10 years to Tebow....shitty armslot, questionable footwork, but dynamic on the ground in his own bruising way. His ability to process information and read defenses is light years ahead of where Vick was...yet all I hear about is the friggin passing stats.

Tim Tebow is the most polarizing figure in the NFL since the old Raider's defenses during the John Madden years.  People either love him or hate him.

Personally, I think it is more entertaining watching  his teammates, fans and media react to what he does on the field rather than  to actually watch him play.  That being said, I like to see the Broncos win just to shove it up Mel Kiper's behind.

 

Well said

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:46:45 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

Orton was a turnover machine. Saw him make horrendous throws.

How many times did Tebow turn it over tonight?

According to espn Tebow has 10 TDs and 1 turnover in addition to being 4-1 as a starter on a garbage team.

But of course he doesn’t have pretty stats so all that is meaningless, right haters?

 

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:47:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

You're right. He can't reach the reciever to make any turnovers.

Wow dude I am done with you.

When you get off covers and take a shitty nfl team to potential greatness I will value your opinion.

Until then, bye hater

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:49:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

You're right. He can't reach the reciever to make any turnovers.

Right, like that bomb to decker to score last week right?

Excuse after excuse.  

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:50:20 AM
Mark Sanchez sucks, Tim Tebow just wins baby with a whole lot less talent around him.  A whole lot.
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:51:49 AM

I personally think Pat White could be Tebow-esc if he played for a team whose head coach threw out the playbook to play his style of football and was given a chance. But he wasn't given a chance because, well, who the darn is Pat White?

Sure...he wouldn't do it at the same degree as Tebow because Tebow is the BEST at this style offense...and apparently, if you're not THE BEST, you won't get a shot.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:52:53 AM
It's about matchups. The reason he lost to Detroit was they do one thing really well on defense, kill the QB. Once you get past the line of scrimmage, they are below average. The Jets D is predicated on coverage, they rank nearly at the bottom in sacks. They are built on making you work for every yard and on turnovers.

If you work hard at gaining yardage and have a good defense, you're in good shape against the Jets. Jet had alot going against them. Short week made shorter by having to play late Sunday, travel west to high altitude, against an opponent completely different than anything you played (especially compared to the Pats), hungry opponent that needs win, and the Jets only have an average rush defense. Also, a ton of people are betting Jets, line has risen 2 points in past 48 hours.
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:54:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

I personally think Pat White could be Tebow-esc if he played for a team whose head coach threw out the playbook to play his style of football and was given a chance. But he wasn't given a chance because, well, who the darn is Pat White?

Sure...he wouldn't do it at the same degree as Tebow because Tebow is the BEST at this style offense...and apparently, if you're not THE BEST, you won't get a shot.

OMG stop now. I am a huge Fins fan and Pat White was the worst draft pick I have ever seen. He sucked, terribly.

Keep digging a deep hole.

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:54:28 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

Wow dude I am done with you.

When you get off covers and take a shitty nfl team to potential greatness I will value your opinion.

Until then, bye hater

Are you serious? This forum is to gamble at critisize players. Whether it be good or bad. Do you give every single player who plays professional sports props because they do something that some guys who post on the internet can't do?

Do you support Carlos Zambrano beacuse he can throw a fastball over 90 mph and you can't, despite everything else that is wrong with that guy?

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:55:51 AM

Pat White was half the man Tebow is. Tebow is a large man at 242 pounds.

Pat White was like 180 soaking wet with change in his pocket.

Tebow also won 2 national championships, how many did White Win?

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:57:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

Ball control and clock management also help your defense

I guess if you call ball contol 3 for 13 on 3rd downs...and 229 total yards of offense...

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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:58:02 AM
222* I believe he weighs. somewhere in that range. he is a load though is my point
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:58:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

OMG stop now. I am a huge Fins fan and Pat White was the worst draft pick I have ever seen. He sucked, terribly.

Keep digging a deep hole.

When you get off covers and play for a professional football team, then I will value your opinion.

Sound familiar?

Who are you to degrade Pat White? If I can't degrade Tim Tebow...than why can you degrade Pat White?

And did the Miami offense throw out the entire playbook to play West Virginia style football like the Broncos did for Tebow?

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