Rough start to the year to say the least. Time to get rolling.
Cincinnati -2
San Francisco has not lost a spread yet but a heck of a lot has had to go their way for that to happen. In Game 1 against Seattle they were losing ATS against Seattle but needed two late kick return TD's to cover. Last week they squeak out a push despite being out gained by almost 270 yards but they were the beneficiaries of Romo breaking a rib and fracturing a lung and getting Kitna to come in and throw two picks.San Fran's offense is a trainwreck. In Week 1 they managed just 209 total yards and last week it was just 204 total yards. Their offensive line is awful and can't block anybody. The run game has been held to a terrible 2.8 yards per rush so far and last week they gave up 6 sacks.
Alex Smith has a decent QB rating but he has done nothing spectacular. If asked to make a play my guess is he will fail. Now he goes on the road where he has a career 66.8 QB rating, 55% completions, and a 22-29 TD-INT ratio. San Fran has also won just 6 of the 30 road games he's played and at 2 you will most likely need San Fran to win SU to cash your ticket.The Niners are also +4 in the turnover department which is something I don't see continuing. While the markets look at this team as a squad that has played above market expectations so far, I see a team that stinks and has needed a lot to go right to get to where they are.
On the other side even though the Bengals have covered both games I see them as underrated coming into this game. This team has actually played well which is something the Niners have not done IMO. There is nothing sexy about this Bengals team at all but they have a lot of pieces that fit well together. The defense is still a good unit, they have a nice running game, and the pass game looks to be coming together. You know if you throw out the 2nd preseason game @ the Jets Andy Dalton has played well every time he has taken the field which is pretty impressive. He also has a nice group of receivers. AJ Green looks as good as advertised, Jerome Simpson is showing the end of last year was no fluke, and they have a nice TE in Gresham. Losing Shipley is tough but they also have a similar player in Caldwell to take over that spot.
Everyone thought the Bengals were shit coming into the year but they really aren't that terrible. I said they would be better than everyone's darling Cleveland and I still believe it. This team is playing well and I think the change in attitude there is doing wonders for the organization. Cutting the dead weight bums like T.O and Ocho Cinco and telling Palmer to shove it while going with young enthusiastic kids was one of the better decisions this organization has made in a while.I expect this under the radar team to get it done in their home opener against an overrated team coming east for a 1:00 game.
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YTD: 5-9
Rough start to the year to say the least. Time to get rolling.
Cincinnati -2
San Francisco has not lost a spread yet but a heck of a lot has had to go their way for that to happen. In Game 1 against Seattle they were losing ATS against Seattle but needed two late kick return TD's to cover. Last week they squeak out a push despite being out gained by almost 270 yards but they were the beneficiaries of Romo breaking a rib and fracturing a lung and getting Kitna to come in and throw two picks.San Fran's offense is a trainwreck. In Week 1 they managed just 209 total yards and last week it was just 204 total yards. Their offensive line is awful and can't block anybody. The run game has been held to a terrible 2.8 yards per rush so far and last week they gave up 6 sacks.
Alex Smith has a decent QB rating but he has done nothing spectacular. If asked to make a play my guess is he will fail. Now he goes on the road where he has a career 66.8 QB rating, 55% completions, and a 22-29 TD-INT ratio. San Fran has also won just 6 of the 30 road games he's played and at 2 you will most likely need San Fran to win SU to cash your ticket.The Niners are also +4 in the turnover department which is something I don't see continuing. While the markets look at this team as a squad that has played above market expectations so far, I see a team that stinks and has needed a lot to go right to get to where they are.
On the other side even though the Bengals have covered both games I see them as underrated coming into this game. This team has actually played well which is something the Niners have not done IMO. There is nothing sexy about this Bengals team at all but they have a lot of pieces that fit well together. The defense is still a good unit, they have a nice running game, and the pass game looks to be coming together. You know if you throw out the 2nd preseason game @ the Jets Andy Dalton has played well every time he has taken the field which is pretty impressive. He also has a nice group of receivers. AJ Green looks as good as advertised, Jerome Simpson is showing the end of last year was no fluke, and they have a nice TE in Gresham. Losing Shipley is tough but they also have a similar player in Caldwell to take over that spot.
Everyone thought the Bengals were shit coming into the year but they really aren't that terrible. I said they would be better than everyone's darling Cleveland and I still believe it. This team is playing well and I think the change in attitude there is doing wonders for the organization. Cutting the dead weight bums like T.O and Ocho Cinco and telling Palmer to shove it while going with young enthusiastic kids was one of the better decisions this organization has made in a while.I expect this under the radar team to get it done in their home opener against an overrated team coming east for a 1:00 game.
I just locked it in at -2.5- Niners off of an emotional loss, going to the east coast against a tough defense and young offense like you mentioned plus Edwards is getting an MRI on his knee and Crabtree might not play. Even if they do Leon Hall can contain those gimps.
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I just locked it in at -2.5- Niners off of an emotional loss, going to the east coast against a tough defense and young offense like you mentioned plus Edwards is getting an MRI on his knee and Crabtree might not play. Even if they do Leon Hall can contain those gimps.
i dont like the play, SF matches up very well against cinci.
they have trouble against high potent passing teams like the cowboys, but the 49ers defense is very good against the run. they currently hold the nfl streak of not allowing a 100 yard rusher. cinci needs an effective run game to set up the pass, and i dont see them being successful with the run.
you are right about alex smith and the niners passing game. but keep in mind braylon edwards got injured early in the game against the cowboys and crabtree didnt play at all. i expect both to be in the lineup for week 3. also, vernon davis was blocking the entire game trying to help on ware. niners offense improved from week 1 to week 2, and i expect them to open things up even more this week. keep in mind that alex smith wont' be forced to make big plays, since cinci isnt a high flying offense. i see this game being close and whomever gets in field goal position late in the game wins, i'll gladly take the +3.
actually I changed my mind on taking the Bengals- Under is the best play here IMO
Niners have best run D so Dalton will have to convert some long downs and the Niners will be a little big weary from the travel but it's not like it's a b2b in the NBA or something they'll stop the run. It's also Dalton's first home opener so he'll feel some jitters and pressure to do well.
The Bengals will be very tough on D. Niners can't run the ball and Bengals shut down Hillis. Clements and Hall will easily stop the pass.
Both coaches will play it really conservative in what should be a tight game. I still think the Bengals win but in a close game with a bad team even -2.5 makes me cringe.
At 41 with the public slamming the Over this Under looks damn good compared to any side.
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Quote Originally Posted by XhuegoX:
i dont like the play, SF matches up very well against cinci.
they have trouble against high potent passing teams like the cowboys, but the 49ers defense is very good against the run. they currently hold the nfl streak of not allowing a 100 yard rusher. cinci needs an effective run game to set up the pass, and i dont see them being successful with the run.
you are right about alex smith and the niners passing game. but keep in mind braylon edwards got injured early in the game against the cowboys and crabtree didnt play at all. i expect both to be in the lineup for week 3. also, vernon davis was blocking the entire game trying to help on ware. niners offense improved from week 1 to week 2, and i expect them to open things up even more this week. keep in mind that alex smith wont' be forced to make big plays, since cinci isnt a high flying offense. i see this game being close and whomever gets in field goal position late in the game wins, i'll gladly take the +3.
actually I changed my mind on taking the Bengals- Under is the best play here IMO
Niners have best run D so Dalton will have to convert some long downs and the Niners will be a little big weary from the travel but it's not like it's a b2b in the NBA or something they'll stop the run. It's also Dalton's first home opener so he'll feel some jitters and pressure to do well.
The Bengals will be very tough on D. Niners can't run the ball and Bengals shut down Hillis. Clements and Hall will easily stop the pass.
Both coaches will play it really conservative in what should be a tight game. I still think the Bengals win but in a close game with a bad team even -2.5 makes me cringe.
At 41 with the public slamming the Over this Under looks damn good compared to any side.
I really like Cincinnati, was THIS CLOSE to make them a play on my card, but something scares me about this match-up for their offense against the SF front 7. I just have scary visions of the Bengals getting pushed around at the line of scrimmage. Flip side though is I have no real idea how San Fran plans to put points on the board on the road in this spot as Cincy's defense is for real in my opinion. I think we are staring a 13-10 type game right in the face.
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I really like Cincinnati, was THIS CLOSE to make them a play on my card, but something scares me about this match-up for their offense against the SF front 7. I just have scary visions of the Bengals getting pushed around at the line of scrimmage. Flip side though is I have no real idea how San Fran plans to put points on the board on the road in this spot as Cincy's defense is for real in my opinion. I think we are staring a 13-10 type game right in the face.
Rough start to the year to say the least. Time to get rolling.
Cincinnati -2
San Francisco has not lost a spread yet but a heck of a lot has had to go their way for that to happen. In Game 1 against Seattle they were losing ATS against Seattle but needed two late kick return TD's to cover. Last week they squeak out a push despite being out gained by almost 270 yards but they were the beneficiaries of Romo breaking a rib and fracturing a lung and getting Kitna to come in and throw two picks.San Fran's offense is a trainwreck. In Week 1 they managed just 209 total yards and last week it was just 204 total yards. Their offensive line is awful and can't block anybody. The run game has been held to a terrible 2.8 yards per rush so far and last week they gave up 6 sacks.
Alex Smith has a decent QB rating but he has done nothing spectacular. If asked to make a play my guess is he will fail. Now he goes on the road where he has a career 66.8 QB rating, 55% completions, and a 22-29 TD-INT ratio. San Fran has also won just 6 of the 30 road games he's played and at 2 you will most likely need San Fran to win SU to cash your ticket.The Niners are also +4 in the turnover department which is something I don't see continuing. While the markets look at this team as a squad that has played above market expectations so far, I see a team that stinks and has needed a lot to go right to get to where they are.
On the other side even though the Bengals have covered both games I see them as underrated coming into this game. This team has actually played well which is something the Niners have not done IMO. There is nothing sexy about this Bengals team at all but they have a lot of pieces that fit well together. The defense is still a good unit, they have a nice running game, and the pass game looks to be coming together. You know if you throw out the 2nd preseason game @ the Jets Andy Dalton has played well every time he has taken the field which is pretty impressive. He also has a nice group of receivers. AJ Green looks as good as advertised, Jerome Simpson is showing the end of last year was no fluke, and they have a nice TE in Gresham. Losing Shipley is tough but they also have a similar player in Caldwell to take over that spot.
Everyone thought the Bengals were shit coming into the year but they really aren't that terrible. I said they would be better than everyone's darling Cleveland and I still believe it. This team is playing well and I think the change in attitude there is doing wonders for the organization. Cutting the dead weight bums like T.O and Ocho Cinco and telling Palmer to shove it while going with young enthusiastic kids was one of the better decisions this organization has made in a while.I expect this under the radar team to get it done in their home opener against an overrated team coming east for a 1:00 game.
More later.
Whether you win or lose, either way that's a very nice write up. Nice work.
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
YTD: 5-9
Rough start to the year to say the least. Time to get rolling.
Cincinnati -2
San Francisco has not lost a spread yet but a heck of a lot has had to go their way for that to happen. In Game 1 against Seattle they were losing ATS against Seattle but needed two late kick return TD's to cover. Last week they squeak out a push despite being out gained by almost 270 yards but they were the beneficiaries of Romo breaking a rib and fracturing a lung and getting Kitna to come in and throw two picks.San Fran's offense is a trainwreck. In Week 1 they managed just 209 total yards and last week it was just 204 total yards. Their offensive line is awful and can't block anybody. The run game has been held to a terrible 2.8 yards per rush so far and last week they gave up 6 sacks.
Alex Smith has a decent QB rating but he has done nothing spectacular. If asked to make a play my guess is he will fail. Now he goes on the road where he has a career 66.8 QB rating, 55% completions, and a 22-29 TD-INT ratio. San Fran has also won just 6 of the 30 road games he's played and at 2 you will most likely need San Fran to win SU to cash your ticket.The Niners are also +4 in the turnover department which is something I don't see continuing. While the markets look at this team as a squad that has played above market expectations so far, I see a team that stinks and has needed a lot to go right to get to where they are.
On the other side even though the Bengals have covered both games I see them as underrated coming into this game. This team has actually played well which is something the Niners have not done IMO. There is nothing sexy about this Bengals team at all but they have a lot of pieces that fit well together. The defense is still a good unit, they have a nice running game, and the pass game looks to be coming together. You know if you throw out the 2nd preseason game @ the Jets Andy Dalton has played well every time he has taken the field which is pretty impressive. He also has a nice group of receivers. AJ Green looks as good as advertised, Jerome Simpson is showing the end of last year was no fluke, and they have a nice TE in Gresham. Losing Shipley is tough but they also have a similar player in Caldwell to take over that spot.
Everyone thought the Bengals were shit coming into the year but they really aren't that terrible. I said they would be better than everyone's darling Cleveland and I still believe it. This team is playing well and I think the change in attitude there is doing wonders for the organization. Cutting the dead weight bums like T.O and Ocho Cinco and telling Palmer to shove it while going with young enthusiastic kids was one of the better decisions this organization has made in a while.I expect this under the radar team to get it done in their home opener against an overrated team coming east for a 1:00 game.
More later.
Whether you win or lose, either way that's a very nice write up. Nice work.
Good luck, good writeup. Am going to look at this game a little closer. Initial instinct reflected your thoughts. Hard not to consider the under as well.
"I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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Good luck, good writeup. Am going to look at this game a little closer. Initial instinct reflected your thoughts. Hard not to consider the under as well.
the niners will win this game, your right the niners have had a lot go there way this year but even tho the lost to dallas in a game that dallas handed to them they showed a lot. passed the ball a lot more then usual and there defense did a great job in the first half there a young team still trying to figure things out.
niners by 10
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the niners will win this game, your right the niners have had a lot go there way this year but even tho the lost to dallas in a game that dallas handed to them they showed a lot. passed the ball a lot more then usual and there defense did a great job in the first half there a young team still trying to figure things out.
This game is a pass for me but without looking at anything, my memory and experience tells me Cincy is a good dog but a crappy fav. Week 1 - Favorite - loss Week 2 - Dog - cover
Then for kicks I took a look for stats: Cin 1-11 ATS as favorite L3 seasons.
If I had to bet it, I'd take the Niners.
BOL
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This game is a pass for me but without looking at anything, my memory and experience tells me Cincy is a good dog but a crappy fav. Week 1 - Favorite - loss Week 2 - Dog - cover
Then for kicks I took a look for stats: Cin 1-11 ATS as favorite L3 seasons.
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