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So the first pick that jumps out is the NE -1... this is what the 13 point teaser is designed for... But I wonder about the value of this play because the line seems inflated against an NE team that might have some holes on defense due to injuries... NE is not 100% on defense...
and after BUF faders all cashed in a double digit favorite, this line is too high and there fore the value might actually be with BUF +30... this is a no play right now...
Any more ideas or suggestions?
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So the first pick that jumps out is the NE -1... this is what the 13 point teaser is designed for... But I wonder about the value of this play because the line seems inflated against an NE team that might have some holes on defense due to injuries... NE is not 100% on defense...
and after BUF faders all cashed in a double digit favorite, this line is too high and there fore the value might actually be with BUF +30... this is a no play right now...
i think NE -1 looks good. Brady and co love to run it up when they get the chance.. i wouldnt bank on a cushion like that.. even tho 30 is a ALOT of pots to cover in an NFL game lol
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i think NE -1 looks good. Brady and co love to run it up when they get the chance.. i wouldnt bank on a cushion like that.. even tho 30 is a ALOT of pots to cover in an NFL game lol
i think NE -1 looks good. Brady and co love to run it up when they get the chance.. i wouldnt bank on a cushion like that.. even tho 30 is a ALOT of pots to cover in an NFL game lol
I have seen NE lose to BUF in the past even when they are clearly the better team... I am no sure if NE is capable of beating teams by 30... they might be able to score 30, but when you give up 20+ points a game you have to score over 50 just to have a chance...
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Quote Originally Posted by yousajiveturkey:
i think NE -1 looks good. Brady and co love to run it up when they get the chance.. i wouldnt bank on a cushion like that.. even tho 30 is a ALOT of pots to cover in an NFL game lol
I have seen NE lose to BUF in the past even when they are clearly the better team... I am no sure if NE is capable of beating teams by 30... they might be able to score 30, but when you give up 20+ points a game you have to score over 50 just to have a chance...
I have seen NE lose to BUF in the past even when they are clearly the better team... I am no sure if NE is capable of beating teams by 30... they might be able to score 30, but when you give up 20+ points a game you have to score over 50 just to have a chance...
um where do you see NE-17 anywhere? last time i checked adding 13 to 13 is 26
this play is NE-1 or even or move on imho
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I have seen NE lose to BUF in the past even when they are clearly the better team... I am no sure if NE is capable of beating teams by 30... they might be able to score 30, but when you give up 20+ points a game you have to score over 50 just to have a chance...
um where do you see NE-17 anywhere? last time i checked adding 13 to 13 is 26
this game is in baltimore and i can see them beating up on cleveland again.
might be a great team to tease
I agree on this. The Ravens finally come home for their home opener. Flacco will not have another terrible game. Look for them to really open a can of whoop ass on the Browns.
I also like the Bears getting +16 and Pitt +12 and Dallas +16 (bounce back for them)
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Quote Originally Posted by philschnaars:
actually check this out
bal last 4 against cle
@Bal bal 34-3 bal by 31
@Cle bal 16-0 bal by 16
@Bal bal 28-10 bal by 18
@Cle bal 37-27 bal by 10
this game is in baltimore and i can see them beating up on cleveland again.
might be a great team to tease
I agree on this. The Ravens finally come home for their home opener. Flacco will not have another terrible game. Look for them to really open a can of whoop ass on the Browns.
I also like the Bears getting +16 and Pitt +12 and Dallas +16 (bounce back for them)
I agree on this. The Ravens finally come home for their home opener. Flacco will not have another terrible game. Look for them to really open a can of whoop ass on the Browns.
I also like the Bears getting +16 and Pitt +12 and Dallas +16 (bounce back for them)
i think pit and baltimore are two of the strongest plays don't really know how you could go against ne as a pick at home vs buffalo either, that'd be my three teams with the 13pt teaser
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by Maydaymalone:
I agree on this. The Ravens finally come home for their home opener. Flacco will not have another terrible game. Look for them to really open a can of whoop ass on the Browns.
I also like the Bears getting +16 and Pitt +12 and Dallas +16 (bounce back for them)
i think pit and baltimore are two of the strongest plays don't really know how you could go against ne as a pick at home vs buffalo either, that'd be my three teams with the 13pt teaser
mayday you got any input on the jets phins game this week? think i'm staying away but am having a tough time looking at the other games since i'm not on the jets phins game at all
Freedom road was a one-way street
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mayday you got any input on the jets phins game this week? think i'm staying away but am having a tough time looking at the other games since i'm not on the jets phins game at all
I agree on this. The Ravens finally come home for their home opener. Flacco will not have another terrible game. Look for them to really open a can of whoop ass on the Browns.
I also like the Bears getting +16 and Pitt +12 and Dallas +16 (bounce back for them)
I initially did not like the BAL because of the number, but I think that based on your historical data you bring up a good point...
I really appreciate when people talk about empirical reality and things that we can all see and agree upon
Im sold on this....
BAL +2.5 NE -1?
anymore ideas or suggestions?
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Quote Originally Posted by Maydaymalone:
I agree on this. The Ravens finally come home for their home opener. Flacco will not have another terrible game. Look for them to really open a can of whoop ass on the Browns.
I also like the Bears getting +16 and Pitt +12 and Dallas +16 (bounce back for them)
I initially did not like the BAL because of the number, but I think that based on your historical data you bring up a good point...
I really appreciate when people talk about empirical reality and things that we can all see and agree upon
mayday you got any input on the jets phins game this week? think i'm staying away but am having a tough time looking at the other games since i'm not on the jets phins game at all
The Jets as a whole team impressed me last week. They let Sanchez BE a QB and the Defense did their thing (even without Revis)
I think the jets will get the win, I think they catch Miami off guard coming home from a big win in Minnesota. Jason Taylor will be giving 150% this week instead of 100% and I think they will be amped up for this one.
Miami's running game really hasnt taken off, so if they can shut down the passing game they should roll here.
I think the Jets get their running game back this week also which will open up the passing game.
if Edwards can stay sober and avoid suspension he should have a good day. I like the Jets by a TD here
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Quote Originally Posted by philschnaars:
mayday you got any input on the jets phins game this week? think i'm staying away but am having a tough time looking at the other games since i'm not on the jets phins game at all
The Jets as a whole team impressed me last week. They let Sanchez BE a QB and the Defense did their thing (even without Revis)
I think the jets will get the win, I think they catch Miami off guard coming home from a big win in Minnesota. Jason Taylor will be giving 150% this week instead of 100% and I think they will be amped up for this one.
Miami's running game really hasnt taken off, so if they can shut down the passing game they should roll here.
I think the Jets get their running game back this week also which will open up the passing game.
if Edwards can stay sober and avoid suspension he should have a good day. I like the Jets by a TD here
PIT is 2-0 both SU and ATS vs the likes of ATL as a home dog and @ TEN as a road dog. now they are a road fav -1 @ TB
TB is 2-0 both SU and ATS vs the likes of CLE as a home fav and @ CAR as a road dog. now they are a home dog +1 vs PIT
bucs def has looked pretty solid this year but against jake delhomme and matt moore. pit def has looked even more solid against the likes of matt ryan and vince young (by no means two pro bowlers but both better than delhomme and moore) freeman has looked good but now has to face imo a top 5 defense with polamalu back. not that dennis dixon if healthy or charlie batch are much better but i'd rather back the better defense in this game then try to decipher which QB is better. take the +12 with those other two and sit back and watch, nothing is guaranteed but i'd feel good about those three
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PIT is 2-0 both SU and ATS vs the likes of ATL as a home dog and @ TEN as a road dog. now they are a road fav -1 @ TB
TB is 2-0 both SU and ATS vs the likes of CLE as a home fav and @ CAR as a road dog. now they are a home dog +1 vs PIT
bucs def has looked pretty solid this year but against jake delhomme and matt moore. pit def has looked even more solid against the likes of matt ryan and vince young (by no means two pro bowlers but both better than delhomme and moore) freeman has looked good but now has to face imo a top 5 defense with polamalu back. not that dennis dixon if healthy or charlie batch are much better but i'd rather back the better defense in this game then try to decipher which QB is better. take the +12 with those other two and sit back and watch, nothing is guaranteed but i'd feel good about those three
The Jets as a whole team impressed me last week. They let Sanchez BE a QB and the Defense did their thing (even without Revis)
I think the jets will get the win, I think they catch Miami off guard coming home from a big win in Minnesota. Jason Taylor will be giving 150% this week instead of 100% and I think they will be amped up for this one.
Miami's running game really hasnt taken off, so if they can shut down the passing game they should roll here.
I think the Jets get their running game back this week also which will open up the passing game.
if Edwards can stay sober and avoid suspension he should have a good day. I like the Jets by a TD here
i like most of that but taylor is questionable this weekend and edwards will likely be suspended, hopefully he can appeal to play this weekend though we will see. i did a write up thread on this game but still can't tell if i initially liked the jets based on my heart or my gut. (not that my gut is much better)
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by Maydaymalone:
The Jets as a whole team impressed me last week. They let Sanchez BE a QB and the Defense did their thing (even without Revis)
I think the jets will get the win, I think they catch Miami off guard coming home from a big win in Minnesota. Jason Taylor will be giving 150% this week instead of 100% and I think they will be amped up for this one.
Miami's running game really hasnt taken off, so if they can shut down the passing game they should roll here.
I think the Jets get their running game back this week also which will open up the passing game.
if Edwards can stay sober and avoid suspension he should have a good day. I like the Jets by a TD here
i like most of that but taylor is questionable this weekend and edwards will likely be suspended, hopefully he can appeal to play this weekend though we will see. i did a write up thread on this game but still can't tell if i initially liked the jets based on my heart or my gut. (not that my gut is much better)
What about Atlanta in the dome in N.O? they would be getting 17.5 points.
thats a big number for the Saints to cover for a divisional game.
true and n.o. still hasn't impressed me that much but who knows when they will turn it on. their special teams hit a bump losing bush so maybe they can't get it up over 18. liking the other three more but can't help but think atl can cover 17.5 against n.o. either
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Quote Originally Posted by Maydaymalone:
What about Atlanta in the dome in N.O? they would be getting 17.5 points.
thats a big number for the Saints to cover for a divisional game.
true and n.o. still hasn't impressed me that much but who knows when they will turn it on. their special teams hit a bump losing bush so maybe they can't get it up over 18. liking the other three more but can't help but think atl can cover 17.5 against n.o. either
nyj +14 @ mia (wait for the extra .5pts though if u can)
and bal +2.5 vs cle (maybe wait to see if it'll go down to 9.5 but i don't think it'll go that low)
PIT +12 seems like a good pick on paper because TB struggles on offense and similar to TEN (who needed to make a QB change to make it happen), TB does not have enough passing ability to play from behind...
PIT has shown such great ability on DEF, but their QB situation is somewhat of an unknown against a TB defense that has not done that bad...
This fits the model/formula of getting more value in what is probably the lowest o/u on the board... So theoretically this is the correct play +13 points ATS... perhaps so theoretically correct that both sides should hit in theory...
another nice theoretically correct play is the NYJ +14 and agree with you that +14.5 would help out big time... this is supposed be a lower scoring game in theory with both defenses looking good so far this season and with both offenses being a power running based concept...
Although it would seem that MIA vs NYJ is the formula to a lower scoring game, The interesting thing is that when these two played each other last season, the result was totals for 55! and 58!
This decreases the value of the +13 points ATS big time... But what looks good is that MIA won the game by 5 and 4 points which speaks to the game being a close divisional game... This is probably a no play for me as I like the NYJ number better, but I think that MIA is at home playing a NYJ team that just beat NE is a better situation and line (had MIA lost ATS then this line would be +1.5 or better and I would be one it)...
thanks for your contributions, you are definitely in the spirit of the thread to have discussions about what we are thinking and why we are thinking about certain plays...
tell me what your final teaser is...
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Quote Originally Posted by philschnaars:
there are four i see that would be nice
pit +12 @ tb
ne pk vs buf
and the other two are
nyj +14 @ mia (wait for the extra .5pts though if u can)
and bal +2.5 vs cle (maybe wait to see if it'll go down to 9.5 but i don't think it'll go that low)
PIT +12 seems like a good pick on paper because TB struggles on offense and similar to TEN (who needed to make a QB change to make it happen), TB does not have enough passing ability to play from behind...
PIT has shown such great ability on DEF, but their QB situation is somewhat of an unknown against a TB defense that has not done that bad...
This fits the model/formula of getting more value in what is probably the lowest o/u on the board... So theoretically this is the correct play +13 points ATS... perhaps so theoretically correct that both sides should hit in theory...
another nice theoretically correct play is the NYJ +14 and agree with you that +14.5 would help out big time... this is supposed be a lower scoring game in theory with both defenses looking good so far this season and with both offenses being a power running based concept...
Although it would seem that MIA vs NYJ is the formula to a lower scoring game, The interesting thing is that when these two played each other last season, the result was totals for 55! and 58!
This decreases the value of the +13 points ATS big time... But what looks good is that MIA won the game by 5 and 4 points which speaks to the game being a close divisional game... This is probably a no play for me as I like the NYJ number better, but I think that MIA is at home playing a NYJ team that just beat NE is a better situation and line (had MIA lost ATS then this line would be +1.5 or better and I would be one it)...
thanks for your contributions, you are definitely in the spirit of the thread to have discussions about what we are thinking and why we are thinking about certain plays...
with Charlie Batch starting that PITT UNDER looks even better
Steelers will, and do, always find a way to win.
TB hasnt played anyone and is unproven like you said. I agree with you philschnaars 100%
getting +12 has me all over it. might even like it more than the baltimore game but both those strong and with ne as a pick won't find too many 3 teamers like that one.
that under is very interesting but alas a couple of silly picks and giving the steelers great field position could result in 34 or more points, especially with maybe a late meaningless td like we saw last sunday night. under probably the right play though
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by Maydaymalone:
with Charlie Batch starting that PITT UNDER looks even better
Steelers will, and do, always find a way to win.
TB hasnt played anyone and is unproven like you said. I agree with you philschnaars 100%
getting +12 has me all over it. might even like it more than the baltimore game but both those strong and with ne as a pick won't find too many 3 teamers like that one.
that under is very interesting but alas a couple of silly picks and giving the steelers great field position could result in 34 or more points, especially with maybe a late meaningless td like we saw last sunday night. under probably the right play though
PIT +12 seems like a good pick on paper because TB struggles on offense and similar to TEN (who needed to make a QB change to make it happen), TB does not have enough passing ability to play from behind...
PIT has shown such great ability on DEF, but their QB situation is somewhat of an unknown against a TB defense that has not done that bad...
This fits the model/formula of getting more value in what is probably the lowest o/u on the board... So theoretically this is the correct play +13 points ATS... perhaps so theoretically correct that both sides should hit in theory...
another nice theoretically correct play is the NYJ +14 and agree with you that +14.5 would help out big time... this is supposed be a lower scoring game in theory with both defenses looking good so far this season and with both offenses being a power running based concept...
Although it would seem that MIA vs NYJ is the formula to a lower scoring game, The interesting thing is that when these two played each other last season, the result was totals for 55! and 58!
This decreases the value of the +13 points ATS big time... But what looks good is that MIA won the game by 5 and 4 points which speaks to the game being a close divisional game... This is probably a no play for me as I like the NYJ number better, but I think that MIA is at home playing a NYJ team that just beat NE is a better situation and line (had MIA lost ATS then this line would be +1.5 or better and I would be one it)...
thanks for your contributions, you are definitely in the spirit of the thread to have discussions about what we are thinking and why we are thinking about certain plays...
tell me what your final teaser is...
as of tuesday afternoon my final teaser is
NE pk vs BUF
PIT +12 @ TB
BAL +2.5 vs CLE
too early in the week to put a play in for me but if i was i'd be looking to that one above
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
PIT +12 seems like a good pick on paper because TB struggles on offense and similar to TEN (who needed to make a QB change to make it happen), TB does not have enough passing ability to play from behind...
PIT has shown such great ability on DEF, but their QB situation is somewhat of an unknown against a TB defense that has not done that bad...
This fits the model/formula of getting more value in what is probably the lowest o/u on the board... So theoretically this is the correct play +13 points ATS... perhaps so theoretically correct that both sides should hit in theory...
another nice theoretically correct play is the NYJ +14 and agree with you that +14.5 would help out big time... this is supposed be a lower scoring game in theory with both defenses looking good so far this season and with both offenses being a power running based concept...
Although it would seem that MIA vs NYJ is the formula to a lower scoring game, The interesting thing is that when these two played each other last season, the result was totals for 55! and 58!
This decreases the value of the +13 points ATS big time... But what looks good is that MIA won the game by 5 and 4 points which speaks to the game being a close divisional game... This is probably a no play for me as I like the NYJ number better, but I think that MIA is at home playing a NYJ team that just beat NE is a better situation and line (had MIA lost ATS then this line would be +1.5 or better and I would be one it)...
thanks for your contributions, you are definitely in the spirit of the thread to have discussions about what we are thinking and why we are thinking about certain plays...
tell me what your final teaser is...
as of tuesday afternoon my final teaser is
NE pk vs BUF
PIT +12 @ TB
BAL +2.5 vs CLE
too early in the week to put a play in for me but if i was i'd be looking to that one above
Take Minn in your teaser. They will not lose to the Lions at home
need to do a little better than that please. jahvid best looked sick against philly and minnesota has looked weak back to back weeks, albeit vs two 2-0 teams. safer 13pt teasers out there imho
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Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:
Take Minn in your teaser. They will not lose to the Lions at home
need to do a little better than that please. jahvid best looked sick against philly and minnesota has looked weak back to back weeks, albeit vs two 2-0 teams. safer 13pt teasers out there imho
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