So I have been successful betting on MLB, NHL, and NBA using a simple Labouchere line on the top 10 percentage team (winning or losing.)
I am going to do the same thing in the NFL and NCAAF....except there aren't enough games to do a similar system so I am going to it a little different. Instead I am letting Covers users pick the games. It will start with a simple line of ten 5's.
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
There's only about 68-80 games in the regular season so we may only get through 1 or 2 lines or so depending on how well the picks go.
I don't want to overload though because once NBA and NHL start I have a lot of resources used at once.
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So I have been successful betting on MLB, NHL, and NBA using a simple Labouchere line on the top 10 percentage team (winning or losing.)
I am going to do the same thing in the NFL and NCAAF....except there aren't enough games to do a similar system so I am going to it a little different. Instead I am letting Covers users pick the games. It will start with a simple line of ten 5's.
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
There's only about 68-80 games in the regular season so we may only get through 1 or 2 lines or so depending on how well the picks go.
I don't want to overload though because once NBA and NHL start I have a lot of resources used at once.
Labouchere...split martingale...call it what you want. I researched it under Labouchere when I committed to it...It's been awesome the last 10 months. Football is tough because there aren't enough games. I may combine it into one line...College and Pro. We will see I guess.
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Labouchere...split martingale...call it what you want. I researched it under Labouchere when I committed to it...It's been awesome the last 10 months. Football is tough because there aren't enough games. I may combine it into one line...College and Pro. We will see I guess.
Each game you take the first and the last # and that's your bet. So $10 on the first game. If you win you cross them off, if you lose you add what you lost to the end...so they look like this.
After a win = 5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
After a loss (with juice) = 5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,11
So your next bet is either $10 again or $16. You keep doing that until the line is cleared. Then you wash, rinse and repeat!
It was automatic for baseball, a lot of work but definitely profitable, bankroll management is the key. You have to have the cash to keep with it if lose lose 5,6 even 7 games in a row.
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Pretty simple actually. the line starts like this
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
Each game you take the first and the last # and that's your bet. So $10 on the first game. If you win you cross them off, if you lose you add what you lost to the end...so they look like this.
After a win = 5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
After a loss (with juice) = 5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,11
So your next bet is either $10 again or $16. You keep doing that until the line is cleared. Then you wash, rinse and repeat!
It was automatic for baseball, a lot of work but definitely profitable, bankroll management is the key. You have to have the cash to keep with it if lose lose 5,6 even 7 games in a row.
The problem with this system is that in theory it works, but it requires an unlimited or at least a very large bankroll to cover a string of losses. Basically you are increasing your bets after you lose to catch up.
Good luck with the system and I hope you win this year.
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The problem with this system is that in theory it works, but it requires an unlimited or at least a very large bankroll to cover a string of losses. Basically you are increasing your bets after you lose to catch up.
Good luck with the system and I hope you win this year.
That's why the wagers are so small. $10 to start. With a starting bankroll of $1200 it should be able to weather the storms. I calculated between $200 and $500 in winnings for the football season based on a winning percentage of between 40-50%....Which is low I know, but I would rather under promise and over deliver.
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That's why the wagers are so small. $10 to start. With a starting bankroll of $1200 it should be able to weather the storms. I calculated between $200 and $500 in winnings for the football season based on a winning percentage of between 40-50%....Which is low I know, but I would rather under promise and over deliver.
Minnesota -3 -105, and then follow up with a USC -21.5
I've got all 10 games for the first week set but the timing may not work out. With a Labouchere line you need to wait for a game to finish before knowing what the next bet is.
That along with a bus schedule and not always being available to get a bet in may put some wrinkles in the system but we will see what happens.
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First two games are set.
Minnesota -3 -105, and then follow up with a USC -21.5
I've got all 10 games for the first week set but the timing may not work out. With a Labouchere line you need to wait for a game to finish before knowing what the next bet is.
That along with a bus schedule and not always being available to get a bet in may put some wrinkles in the system but we will see what happens.
So let me understand this... you've simply been betting to win the top 3 (or 2 or 4) teams (ranked by win %) in MLB, NHL, and NBA, and winning while doing it. Sounds simple to do, and since simple is about all I can handle, I'm quite interested.
Doesn't the juice get kind of high on MLB and NHL?
Do you have any numbers on results from last season?
thanks
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hey Airmail
So let me understand this... you've simply been betting to win the top 3 (or 2 or 4) teams (ranked by win %) in MLB, NHL, and NBA, and winning while doing it. Sounds simple to do, and since simple is about all I can handle, I'm quite interested.
Doesn't the juice get kind of high on MLB and NHL?
Do you have any numbers on results from last season?
For MLB - yes. Actually I am betting a Labouchere line on the top 15 percentage outcomes...not necessarily the top 15 teams. For instance today I bet the following....
Fade Houston
Fade Cleveland
NY Yankees
Fade Pitt
Fade Chi
San Diego
Fade Arizona
Atlanta
Fade Washington
Boston
Fade Baltimore
Tampa Bay
Texas
Fade Kansas City
Fade Seattle
15 is ridiculous...so I would start with 3-5 and see how it goes.
NHL would work the same way.
NBA, NBA O/U and NHL O/U...I actually chart each year and bet on the highest percentages...
It sounds simple, and the concept is...but it's a lot of work, especially when you've got 3 sports going at once.
Hope that helps.
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For MLB - yes. Actually I am betting a Labouchere line on the top 15 percentage outcomes...not necessarily the top 15 teams. For instance today I bet the following....
Fade Houston
Fade Cleveland
NY Yankees
Fade Pitt
Fade Chi
San Diego
Fade Arizona
Atlanta
Fade Washington
Boston
Fade Baltimore
Tampa Bay
Texas
Fade Kansas City
Fade Seattle
15 is ridiculous...so I would start with 3-5 and see how it goes.
NHL would work the same way.
NBA, NBA O/U and NHL O/U...I actually chart each year and bet on the highest percentages...
It sounds simple, and the concept is...but it's a lot of work, especially when you've got 3 sports going at once.
And yeah...the juice gets high in a hurry. That is why for baseball is only go with 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2...with about a $1000 bankroll.
You only clear $20 per line cleared but with 15 going at once it adds up quick. It also gets a little tight and stressful when a team loses 5 straight...
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And yeah...the juice gets high in a hurry. That is why for baseball is only go with 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2...with about a $1000 bankroll.
You only clear $20 per line cleared but with 15 going at once it adds up quick. It also gets a little tight and stressful when a team loses 5 straight...
>For MLB - yes. Actually I am betting a Labouchere line on the top 15 >percentage outcomes...not necessarily the top 15 teams.
I got you... the best of the best and fade the worst of the worst. Thanks for the example.
What do you do in the case of, say, NYY at Boston? Do you filter it out? Handicap it?
And the NBA/NHL o/u... do you look at it on a per team basis, or on a matchup basis? I can see where especially the 2nd is a lot of work. Do you have the prior year data because you find it extremely relevant, or simply because you've got the work all done already?
As to juice, one way I reduce juice is a -1 RL. I build it synthetically by combining a RL and a ML bet. For example, if I do NYY -1RL then it's actually +108 instead of -135 (from when I did the math earlier today), and it makes ATL -115 instead of -168. The upside of -1RL is reduced juice, and of course the downside is a push when your team wins by one run.
Thanks again! Good luck this season.
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>For MLB - yes. Actually I am betting a Labouchere line on the top 15 >percentage outcomes...not necessarily the top 15 teams.
I got you... the best of the best and fade the worst of the worst. Thanks for the example.
What do you do in the case of, say, NYY at Boston? Do you filter it out? Handicap it?
And the NBA/NHL o/u... do you look at it on a per team basis, or on a matchup basis? I can see where especially the 2nd is a lot of work. Do you have the prior year data because you find it extremely relevant, or simply because you've got the work all done already?
As to juice, one way I reduce juice is a -1 RL. I build it synthetically by combining a RL and a ML bet. For example, if I do NYY -1RL then it's actually +108 instead of -135 (from when I did the math earlier today), and it makes ATL -115 instead of -168. The upside of -1RL is reduced juice, and of course the downside is a push when your team wins by one run.
In the case of NY v Boston...i actually place a bet on both sides. Because the amount bet varies it and the line varies I would not cancel it out....yes I may pay a bit of unnecessary juice by doing it, but I am making it back in the end anyway. For NBA, and O/U's I may cancel it out and bet the difference since it's a -110 line.
When doing NBA and O/U's I do it on a per team basis. I basically have a spredsheet that I update daily. I may start with the prior year data...but as soon as I have a handful of games from the current year 10-15...I will use this years data.
I see what you are saying on the -1 RL to reduce the juice. And trust me after Houston swept Philly last week in a 4 game series where Philly was heavy favorites...it would have come in handy. I use very conservative bankroll management to avoid that juice being an issue.
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In the case of NY v Boston...i actually place a bet on both sides. Because the amount bet varies it and the line varies I would not cancel it out....yes I may pay a bit of unnecessary juice by doing it, but I am making it back in the end anyway. For NBA, and O/U's I may cancel it out and bet the difference since it's a -110 line.
When doing NBA and O/U's I do it on a per team basis. I basically have a spredsheet that I update daily. I may start with the prior year data...but as soon as I have a handful of games from the current year 10-15...I will use this years data.
I see what you are saying on the -1 RL to reduce the juice. And trust me after Houston swept Philly last week in a 4 game series where Philly was heavy favorites...it would have come in handy. I use very conservative bankroll management to avoid that juice being an issue.
Give me a night's sleep and I can figure out anything, almost...
1) you're running a line for each team
2) you pick a fixed number of top and bottom teams each day
3) you have a line for almost every team because not every team plays every day and as teams win and lose they rise into and fall out of consideration on any given day.
How am I doing so far?
Are your results remarkably different for team wins and O/U? ie. if you were to start anew would you pick one or the other? Or do they each contribute about equally to the bankroll?
Thank you again.
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Give me a night's sleep and I can figure out anything, almost...
1) you're running a line for each team
2) you pick a fixed number of top and bottom teams each day
3) you have a line for almost every team because not every team plays every day and as teams win and lose they rise into and fall out of consideration on any given day.
How am I doing so far?
Are your results remarkably different for team wins and O/U? ie. if you were to start anew would you pick one or the other? Or do they each contribute about equally to the bankroll?
Everything is right except #2. Once I pick the 15 teams that I am betting on or fading...I stick with that team until a Labby line is cleared...at that point I will re-evaluate and possibly switch a team.
I wouldn't say the results are very different between team and O/U.
Football starts today. I started a new post in the systems forum since it has both NFL and NCAA games. We will see how it goes, it's new for me this year.
Good Luck!!
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Everything is right except #2. Once I pick the 15 teams that I am betting on or fading...I stick with that team until a Labby line is cleared...at that point I will re-evaluate and possibly switch a team.
I wouldn't say the results are very different between team and O/U.
Football starts today. I started a new post in the systems forum since it has both NFL and NCAA games. We will see how it goes, it's new for me this year.
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