Boise State has ZERO chance of being in the big game. They also have ZERO chance of going to the Pac 10. The bottom line is the Pac 10 does not want them. The Pac 10 has a unique set up. Arizona-Arizona State, USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Oregon-Oregon State, and Washington-Wazzu are are natural rivals. For the Pac 10 to take two teams, they would want natural rivals. The ONLY two teams that could qualify are BYU-Utah, and BYU takes itself out of the picture for refusing to play on Sundays. The Pac 10 has to consider every sport, not just football.
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Boise State has ZERO chance of being in the big game. They also have ZERO chance of going to the Pac 10. The bottom line is the Pac 10 does not want them. The Pac 10 has a unique set up. Arizona-Arizona State, USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Oregon-Oregon State, and Washington-Wazzu are are natural rivals. For the Pac 10 to take two teams, they would want natural rivals. The ONLY two teams that could qualify are BYU-Utah, and BYU takes itself out of the picture for refusing to play on Sundays. The Pac 10 has to consider every sport, not just football.
For everyone talking about other teams OOC schedule it's irrelevant. None of those teams have the cakewalk that Boise St.
Let me break it down like this...it's really quite easy:
Team 1:
I am 5th grader. However during my season I will only play 3rd graders with the exception of one game. In that one game I will challenge another 5th grader who I know is not the best of the best. If I win that game I deserve a chance to play for the 5th grade title.
Team 2:
I am a 5th grader and play 80% of my games against other 5th graders...including some of the best 5h graders in the country. If I win ALL my games then I get a chance to play for the 5th grade title.
Now are you telling me it's fair for team 1 to play for the same title as team 2?
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For everyone talking about other teams OOC schedule it's irrelevant. None of those teams have the cakewalk that Boise St.
Let me break it down like this...it's really quite easy:
Team 1:
I am 5th grader. However during my season I will only play 3rd graders with the exception of one game. In that one game I will challenge another 5th grader who I know is not the best of the best. If I win that game I deserve a chance to play for the 5th grade title.
Team 2:
I am a 5th grader and play 80% of my games against other 5th graders...including some of the best 5h graders in the country. If I win ALL my games then I get a chance to play for the 5th grade title.
Now are you telling me it's fair for team 1 to play for the same title as team 2?
I thought the whole point of them talking about this "Strategic Scheduling" was to setup for next season. I believe Boise took it light this year for a reason to prepare this young team who is returning everyone but 5 players. I said 5 players! I think there whole point was not looking at a BCS this season but next season from my understanding they are going to put there toughest schedule ever together because they strongly believe with the group of players they have and coming in is going to get them that BCS title bid.
Look at their schedule over the past 5 years. They have used this "strategic scheduling" every year.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNCforever:
I thought the whole point of them talking about this "Strategic Scheduling" was to setup for next season. I believe Boise took it light this year for a reason to prepare this young team who is returning everyone but 5 players. I said 5 players! I think there whole point was not looking at a BCS this season but next season from my understanding they are going to put there toughest schedule ever together because they strongly believe with the group of players they have and coming in is going to get them that BCS title bid.
Look at their schedule over the past 5 years. They have used this "strategic scheduling" every year.
Boise State has ZERO chance of being in the big game. They also have ZERO chance of going to the Pac 10. The bottom line is the Pac 10 does not want them. The Pac 10 has a unique set up. Arizona-Arizona State, USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Oregon-Oregon State, and Washington-Wazzu are are natural rivals. For the Pac 10 to take two teams, they would want natural rivals. The ONLY two teams that could qualify are BYU-Utah, and BYU takes itself out of the picture for refusing to play on Sundays. The Pac 10 has to consider every sport, not just football.
As I said, I don't expect them to change conferences...I expect them to make up for the lack of quality through scheduling.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH:
Boise State has ZERO chance of being in the big game. They also have ZERO chance of going to the Pac 10. The bottom line is the Pac 10 does not want them. The Pac 10 has a unique set up. Arizona-Arizona State, USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Oregon-Oregon State, and Washington-Wazzu are are natural rivals. For the Pac 10 to take two teams, they would want natural rivals. The ONLY two teams that could qualify are BYU-Utah, and BYU takes itself out of the picture for refusing to play on Sundays. The Pac 10 has to consider every sport, not just football.
As I said, I don't expect them to change conferences...I expect them to make up for the lack of quality through scheduling.
All BSU AD needs to do is call press conference, challenging the top 20 teams BY NAME to play them; home and away.... call that press conference every month if you need to. start reading down the list.. hey teamx why won't you play us? hey teamy why won't you play us? If you won't play us; then stop bitching about our schedule, we are undefeated damn near every year, so until you are ready to play us; you have no right to criticise us.
Boise St. is NOT IN THE POSITION TO ASK A TRADITIONAL TOP 10 POWERHOUSE for a home and home.
They need to ask for 1 game, with them traveling. They then must schedule a home and home with a team that is a usual top 25 team but not a powerhouse (Oregon is a perfect example).
As I said...2 OOC games vs. legit opponents and I would be more than willing to put them in the title game.
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Quote Originally Posted by AtlFader:
All BSU AD needs to do is call press conference, challenging the top 20 teams BY NAME to play them; home and away.... call that press conference every month if you need to. start reading down the list.. hey teamx why won't you play us? hey teamy why won't you play us? If you won't play us; then stop bitching about our schedule, we are undefeated damn near every year, so until you are ready to play us; you have no right to criticise us.
Boise St. is NOT IN THE POSITION TO ASK A TRADITIONAL TOP 10 POWERHOUSE for a home and home.
They need to ask for 1 game, with them traveling. They then must schedule a home and home with a team that is a usual top 25 team but not a powerhouse (Oregon is a perfect example).
As I said...2 OOC games vs. legit opponents and I would be more than willing to put them in the title game.
Boise St. is NOT IN THE POSITION TO ASK A TRADITIONAL TOP 10 POWERHOUSE for a home and home.
They need to ask for 1 game, with them traveling. They then must schedule a home and home with a team that is a usual top 25 team but not a powerhouse (Oregon is a perfect example).
As I said...2 OOC games vs. legit opponents and I would be more than willing to put them in the title game.
And this is the problem......the six BCS conferences can completely dictate the terms that are acceptable to them. Boise must play a road game against a top 10 team without getting a chance for a home game? Why is that? Why aren't they deserving of a home and home? I don't understand this logic coach....
And by Boise, we could be talking about Utah, TCU or whoever....does Utah deserve a home and home? They are 2-0 in the BCS games they have played in. No top 10 would give them a home and home.....
The top 10 schools don't want to play these teams because a loss looks "bad" and a win isn't good enough.......and to be fair, I'm not completely sure that some of the smaller schools benefit from scheduling stronger either because one loss for them absolutely ruins their chances, whereas if you are named LSU you can lose twice and still get a national title.....the Division College Football game or FBS or whatever the hell they call themselves these days is really a joke.....it's essentially determined in August which four or five teams get a shot at the title....
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Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Tressel:
Boise St. is NOT IN THE POSITION TO ASK A TRADITIONAL TOP 10 POWERHOUSE for a home and home.
They need to ask for 1 game, with them traveling. They then must schedule a home and home with a team that is a usual top 25 team but not a powerhouse (Oregon is a perfect example).
As I said...2 OOC games vs. legit opponents and I would be more than willing to put them in the title game.
And this is the problem......the six BCS conferences can completely dictate the terms that are acceptable to them. Boise must play a road game against a top 10 team without getting a chance for a home game? Why is that? Why aren't they deserving of a home and home? I don't understand this logic coach....
And by Boise, we could be talking about Utah, TCU or whoever....does Utah deserve a home and home? They are 2-0 in the BCS games they have played in. No top 10 would give them a home and home.....
The top 10 schools don't want to play these teams because a loss looks "bad" and a win isn't good enough.......and to be fair, I'm not completely sure that some of the smaller schools benefit from scheduling stronger either because one loss for them absolutely ruins their chances, whereas if you are named LSU you can lose twice and still get a national title.....the Division College Football game or FBS or whatever the hell they call themselves these days is really a joke.....it's essentially determined in August which four or five teams get a shot at the title....
And this is the problem......the six BCS conferences can completely dictate the terms that are acceptable to them. Boise must play a road game against a top 10 team without getting a chance for a home game? Why is that? Why aren't they deserving of a home and home? I don't understand this logic coach....
And by Boise, we could be talking about Utah, TCU or whoever....does Utah deserve a home and home? They are 2-0 in the BCS games they have played in. No top 10 would give them a home and home.....
The top 10 schools don't want to play these teams because a loss looks "bad" and a win isn't good enough.......and to be fair, I'm not completely sure that some of the smaller schools benefit from scheduling stronger either because one loss for them absolutely ruins their chances, whereas if you are named LSU you can lose twice and still get a national title.....the Division College Football game or FBS or whatever the hell they call themselves these days is really a joke.....it's essentially determined in August which four or five teams get a shot at the title....
B/C their schedule is a joke year in and year out. You get to ask for a home and home when you have proven yourself year after year against supreme competition.
Utah has every right to ask for a home and home. They play in a MUCH better conference and play elite competition year in and year out. Do you forget that Utah went on the road to play Michigan? As did Oregon...both of these did not ask for a return game at home.
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Quote Originally Posted by mmac66:
And this is the problem......the six BCS conferences can completely dictate the terms that are acceptable to them. Boise must play a road game against a top 10 team without getting a chance for a home game? Why is that? Why aren't they deserving of a home and home? I don't understand this logic coach....
And by Boise, we could be talking about Utah, TCU or whoever....does Utah deserve a home and home? They are 2-0 in the BCS games they have played in. No top 10 would give them a home and home.....
The top 10 schools don't want to play these teams because a loss looks "bad" and a win isn't good enough.......and to be fair, I'm not completely sure that some of the smaller schools benefit from scheduling stronger either because one loss for them absolutely ruins their chances, whereas if you are named LSU you can lose twice and still get a national title.....the Division College Football game or FBS or whatever the hell they call themselves these days is really a joke.....it's essentially determined in August which four or five teams get a shot at the title....
B/C their schedule is a joke year in and year out. You get to ask for a home and home when you have proven yourself year after year against supreme competition.
Utah has every right to ask for a home and home. They play in a MUCH better conference and play elite competition year in and year out. Do you forget that Utah went on the road to play Michigan? As did Oregon...both of these did not ask for a return game at home.
Boise played on the road at Oregon last year........and won.....they played Oklahoma on a neutral field a couple of years ago......and won.......they opened a season at Georgia three or four years ago......and lost.....certainly they have earned a home and home...it's not like they never schedule anybody.
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Boise played on the road at Oregon last year........and won.....they played Oklahoma on a neutral field a couple of years ago......and won.......they opened a season at Georgia three or four years ago......and lost.....certainly they have earned a home and home...it's not like they never schedule anybody.
I was motivated enough to look up Boise's schedule.....out of conference games against BCS Conference Schools and locations for the last few years and next couple:
2004: Oregon State - Boise
2005: Georgia - Athens Oregon St - Corvallis
2006: Oregon St - Boise Utah - Salt Lake City
2007: Washington - Seattle
2008: Oregon - Eugene
2009 Oregon - Boise
2010 Oregon State - Boise Virginia Tech - Neutral
2011 Utah - Boise
2012 Oregon State - Corvallis Utah - Salt Lake BYU - Boise
Not murderer's row......but it isn't like they are playing total cripples every year.....and it seems a fair mix of home/away. I think with they are "deserving" of having the temerity to ask a top 10 school for a home and home.
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I was motivated enough to look up Boise's schedule.....out of conference games against BCS Conference Schools and locations for the last few years and next couple:
2004: Oregon State - Boise
2005: Georgia - Athens Oregon St - Corvallis
2006: Oregon St - Boise Utah - Salt Lake City
2007: Washington - Seattle
2008: Oregon - Eugene
2009 Oregon - Boise
2010 Oregon State - Boise Virginia Tech - Neutral
2011 Utah - Boise
2012 Oregon State - Corvallis Utah - Salt Lake BYU - Boise
Not murderer's row......but it isn't like they are playing total cripples every year.....and it seems a fair mix of home/away. I think with they are "deserving" of having the temerity to ask a top 10 school for a home and home.
I've been viewing the covers board for many years and I never post anything. But with this topic I have to post something. I'm a huge BSU fan and have been for over 20 years. I have season tickets and I've been to many away games, such as Georgia game, Fiesta Bowl, Ponsettei Bowl and at least one conference away game every year.
This was very intersting that this topic came up about BSU schedule on Covers. I'm not going to say much because I agree that BSU should schedule better teams, that's if teams want to play them.
The following paragraph just came out in the Idaho Statesman today 11/3/09. It might be pretty interesting for those who think its easy for BSU to schedule better teams.
WAC commissioner Karl Benson said Tuesday that several high-profile programs have turned down a chance to play a home game against Boise State in 2011.
Boise State — with help from ESPN, Benson said — has been shopping for a game to fill out its 2011 schedule.
Benson wasn't sure of the exact number of schools that had said no, but figured it was close to 10. The Broncos weren't asking for any games in Boise in return, he said.
"They're running into a situation where nobody will schedule them, nobody will take them," Benson said.
I wish everyone the best of luck this college football season.
Thanks,
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I've been viewing the covers board for many years and I never post anything. But with this topic I have to post something. I'm a huge BSU fan and have been for over 20 years. I have season tickets and I've been to many away games, such as Georgia game, Fiesta Bowl, Ponsettei Bowl and at least one conference away game every year.
This was very intersting that this topic came up about BSU schedule on Covers. I'm not going to say much because I agree that BSU should schedule better teams, that's if teams want to play them.
The following paragraph just came out in the Idaho Statesman today 11/3/09. It might be pretty interesting for those who think its easy for BSU to schedule better teams.
WAC commissioner Karl Benson said Tuesday that several high-profile programs have turned down a chance to play a home game against Boise State in 2011.
Boise State — with help from ESPN, Benson said — has been shopping for a game to fill out its 2011 schedule.
Benson wasn't sure of the exact number of schools that had said no, but figured it was close to 10. The Broncos weren't asking for any games in Boise in return, he said.
"They're running into a situation where nobody will schedule them, nobody will take them," Benson said.
Usually 3-4 years, Boise St. has been bitching for well over 5 years.
i think they beat oklahoma 3 seasons ago... and please don't tell me that they got lucky because they were actually dominating before oklahoma made a miracle comeback. they're only loss in the past 2 years was against TCU. you telling me they ain't any good? Not saying they'd beat an sec champ or big 12 champ but certainly cincy, oregon, and game against ohio st would be really close. then again utah beat bama last year and this year's boise team is better than utah.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Tressel:
Usually 3-4 years, Boise St. has been bitching for well over 5 years.
i think they beat oklahoma 3 seasons ago... and please don't tell me that they got lucky because they were actually dominating before oklahoma made a miracle comeback. they're only loss in the past 2 years was against TCU. you telling me they ain't any good? Not saying they'd beat an sec champ or big 12 champ but certainly cincy, oregon, and game against ohio st would be really close. then again utah beat bama last year and this year's boise team is better than utah.
and does anybody realize that they have FIVE seniors this year. only 2 starters. kyle wilson (nfl corner) and their fullback. next year they'll be SCARY. and next year they got V Tech and Oregon St on their schedule so please stop crying about scheduling.
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and does anybody realize that they have FIVE seniors this year. only 2 starters. kyle wilson (nfl corner) and their fullback. next year they'll be SCARY. and next year they got V Tech and Oregon St on their schedule so please stop crying about scheduling.
i think they beat oklahoma 3 seasons ago... and please don't tell me that they got lucky because they were actually dominating before oklahoma made a miracle comeback. they're only loss in the past 2 years was against TCU. you telling me they ain't any good? Not saying they'd beat an sec champ or big 12 champ but certainly cincy, oregon, and game against ohio st would be really close. then again utah beat bama last year and this year's boise team is better than utah.
They would easily lose to all the teams listed, and if they played oregon again.... well it would be bad
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Quote Originally Posted by faasavalu22:
i think they beat oklahoma 3 seasons ago... and please don't tell me that they got lucky because they were actually dominating before oklahoma made a miracle comeback. they're only loss in the past 2 years was against TCU. you telling me they ain't any good? Not saying they'd beat an sec champ or big 12 champ but certainly cincy, oregon, and game against ohio st would be really close. then again utah beat bama last year and this year's boise team is better than utah.
They would easily lose to all the teams listed, and if they played oregon again.... well it would be bad
I don't doubt Boise St to be a good team, they are definitely well coached, but it's not exactly even when they only have to get juiced up for one or two games a year and then cruise control the rest of the season. Also, a team has to beat BSU convincingly or its basically a win for Boise. Boise loses a close game and people are going to say "see they deserved to be in that game." For the big programs, the only way you will get their best against Boise State is in a playoff.
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I don't doubt Boise St to be a good team, they are definitely well coached, but it's not exactly even when they only have to get juiced up for one or two games a year and then cruise control the rest of the season. Also, a team has to beat BSU convincingly or its basically a win for Boise. Boise loses a close game and people are going to say "see they deserved to be in that game." For the big programs, the only way you will get their best against Boise State is in a playoff.
I remember living in Boise back in 2003. They had been trying to get into the PAC 10 for some time. Something to look at is all the good coaches that come out of the program. There is some kinda magic in that system, AD Gene Bleymaier has been there for ever, it seems. They recruit who they can, and build with what they get. Not a lot of Big Name players. Not even big. They recruit for smarts and speed. They will play anyone anywhere, if only other teams have the guts to.
Oh mighty Football Gods.
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I remember living in Boise back in 2003. They had been trying to get into the PAC 10 for some time. Something to look at is all the good coaches that come out of the program. There is some kinda magic in that system, AD Gene Bleymaier has been there for ever, it seems. They recruit who they can, and build with what they get. Not a lot of Big Name players. Not even big. They recruit for smarts and speed. They will play anyone anywhere, if only other teams have the guts to.
AlpenGlow62 posted "First of all, teams are afraid to play Boise State ..."
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This is a fact. The big boys of CFB - except some in the Pac 10 - don't dare play any teams outside their conf that might present an actual challenge.
Texas' box 2009 schedule includes this week's opponent U Central Florida besides UTEP and UL Monroe. BSU has tried to schedule games against major colleges but no takers. BTW I'm an Oregon resident and hardcore Duck fan.
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AlpenGlow62 posted "First of all, teams are afraid to play Boise State ..."
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This is a fact. The big boys of CFB - except some in the Pac 10 - don't dare play any teams outside their conf that might present an actual challenge.
Texas' box 2009 schedule includes this week's opponent U Central Florida besides UTEP and UL Monroe. BSU has tried to schedule games against major colleges but no takers. BTW I'm an Oregon resident and hardcore Duck fan.
Here's some more infomation about this story from the Idaho Statesman that came out today. This was talking about BSU trying to schedule teams for the 2011 season and that at least 10 teams didn't want them...
No one is naming names, but here are some teams that have openings in 2011, according to nationalchamps.net: Michigan, Oklahoma, Arizona, Texas A&M, Alabama (though the Crimson Tide plays at Penn State in 2011), Texas, Oklahoma State
Among the teams whose schedules are full for 2011: UCLA, Penn State, Tennessee, Florida, USC
This is part of the problem with the BCS. The easiest way to get into the BCS for big-conference teams is to win games. And it doesn’t matter who you play in your non-conference games.
So why would you risk a loss by scheduling a team like Boise State? Look at what a loss to the Broncos has done to Oregon. If the Ducks had played Portland State in their season opener, Oregon would likely be ranked No. 1 or No. 2 in the country at this point.
Florida is No. 1 and the Gators' non-conference schedule, so far, includes: Charleston Southern and Troy.
This article by Yahoo! Sports Dan Wetzel shows how quickly many of the big schools have figured out the system. Texas coach Mack Brown brought in BCS gurus to help determine the best way to the title game.
College football has a serious credibility problem with the BCS. No one is buying the argument about protecting the sanctity of the regular season.
Here's some more infomation about this story from the Idaho Statesman that came out today. This was talking about BSU trying to schedule teams for the 2011 season and that at least 10 teams didn't want them...
No one is naming names, but here are some teams that have openings in 2011, according to nationalchamps.net: Michigan, Oklahoma, Arizona, Texas A&M, Alabama (though the Crimson Tide plays at Penn State in 2011), Texas, Oklahoma State
Among the teams whose schedules are full for 2011: UCLA, Penn State, Tennessee, Florida, USC
This is part of the problem with the BCS. The easiest way to get into the BCS for big-conference teams is to win games. And it doesn’t matter who you play in your non-conference games.
So why would you risk a loss by scheduling a team like Boise State? Look at what a loss to the Broncos has done to Oregon. If the Ducks had played Portland State in their season opener, Oregon would likely be ranked No. 1 or No. 2 in the country at this point.
Florida is No. 1 and the Gators' non-conference schedule, so far, includes: Charleston Southern and Troy.
This article by Yahoo! Sports Dan Wetzel shows how quickly many of the big schools have figured out the system. Texas coach Mack Brown brought in BCS gurus to help determine the best way to the title game.
College football has a serious credibility problem with the BCS. No one is buying the argument about protecting the sanctity of the regular season.
I'll just say one thing about Boise, who you seem to dislike intensely. I don't have an axe to grind one way or the other about the way Boise goes about there business.
What I want to say is........I don't think I saw a more exciting game than when with about 5 seconds left playing Oklahoma, Boise goes for the 2 point conversation for the win, not tie. I was totally blown away. I don't think theres one BCS school that's in the hunt right now that would even attempt that play.
Give me those BALZZZZZZ and that team everytime!
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JIM,
I'll just say one thing about Boise, who you seem to dislike intensely. I don't have an axe to grind one way or the other about the way Boise goes about there business.
What I want to say is........I don't think I saw a more exciting game than when with about 5 seconds left playing Oklahoma, Boise goes for the 2 point conversation for the win, not tie. I was totally blown away. I don't think theres one BCS school that's in the hunt right now that would even attempt that play.
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well said sir
ur a moron who prolly lives in potato picking land, get a grip, they would NEVER even be much above .500 in the Pac-10 on a consistent basis
Oh mighty Football Gods.
includes this week's opponent U Central Florida besides UTEP and UL Monroe. BSU has tried to schedule games against major colleges but no takers. BTW I'm an Oregon resident and hardcore Duck fan.
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