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Posted: 4/15/2009 2:26:48 AM
I'm interested in seeing what others around here think about this absurd move by both zeke and the University.
 
Any retorts that won't require yet another thread on the topic deleted?
 
 
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Posted: 4/15/2009 12:49:00 PM
I actually think its a great move.

FIU is a no name program in a crappy league. Isiah will be able to get decent recruits based on who he is and what players know about him. He also did a great PR move of giving back his first year salary. Its a win win for both the school and Isiah.

The school will without a doubt increase their revenues while there is a possibility of building the program. For Thomas he can have success there and move onto a larger conference school.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 1:29:34 PM
Anyone hear he is donating his first year's salary to the athletic department?  Maybe that is because he still has 2 years 14 million coming in from the Knickerbockers
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Posted: 4/15/2009 1:33:38 PM
"I'm glad to welcome you all and to welcome Isiah Thompson, as FIU's basketball coach"

haha did anybody else see that? classic.

Isiah Thomas makes me nervous and uncomfortable to watch but at least they don't have to pay him.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 1:39:29 PM
Over/Under 2 months until his first female sexual harassment suit is filed
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Posted: 4/15/2009 1:54:15 PM
ive met him a couple times..seems like a real tool. I know some of his co-workers through the Knicks organization did not care for him to say the least
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Posted: 4/16/2009 2:27:36 AM
I need, NEED somebody who thinks this is a great move to come forward and explain yourself!
 
I would rather trust my team to Nicholas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas.  A binging alcoholic on a drunken, suicidal sabbatical would be more trustworthy at a D-1 program then Zeke.
 
First off, the guy is a funkin' pig.  He will rest at nothing to get another sexual harrassment assault on him.  And if he doesn't do that, he'll surely start s**t with another coach, AD, alumni, etc etc. The man has caused nothing but problems on every coaching stop he has ever made.  What makes you think he will stop now?
 
And I understand going "big name fishing" but why a man like Zeke?  Why a man that is USING you to get a second chance at the NBA by pulling off a "miracle" run and taking a sub-par, under .500 team to glory, then bouncing.  Obviously that will NEVER happen, but we aren't talking about a sane person, we're talking about Isiah.  And instead of picking a coach in the family, a big name that is actually a proven winner ala Nolan Richardson, they go after some bum loser with severe head trauma.  You lose any ounce of respect for your program that you once had with this move.
 
But here is the most important factor in why this was a BONEHEAD move from all parties involved. 
 
R-E-C-R-U-I-T-I-N-G   
 
Parents and basketball players in the Florida area will really buy into Zeke's "plan?"  Obviously, if you are a D-1 recruit, both you and your parents know about basketball, and they BOTH know about this idiots track record.  So you are going to look at Zeke right between the eyes in your living room when he is pitching his "future" for your boy, and you are going to believe him?  You are going to really turn a trustworthy ear?  THIS MAN IS USING YOUR KIDS TO GET SOMETHING THAT HE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN.  You are going to funking listen?  You are going to trust your sons future in his hands?
 
No, no, no, no, no, no!!!  I would rather have Bing Crosby as a babysitter then trust Zeke with my D-1 future both in athletes and parents eyes.
 
Please, justify this, somehow...anyhow.  How could you?  Why would you try?
 
You are truly the BIGGEST bonehead not only basketball, but SPORT has ever seen.  Pathetic.
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Posted: 4/16/2009 5:27:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by arsenal588:

"I'm glad to welcome you all and to welcome Isiah Thompson, as FIU's basketball coach"

haha did anybody else see that? classic.

 

 

That was priceless!  Unintentional comedy at its finest.

 

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Posted: 4/16/2009 8:08:35 AM
Did anyone hear his interview yesterday?  He sounds and acts a little bit like Mike Tyson... maybe he has a few screws loose?


Did you hear him explaining the alleged suicide attempt?  My daughter was sick and went to the hospital so I was nervous and took some sleeping pills to help me sleep, but I took to many and then I ended up going to the hospital.  Me and my daughter were both in the hospital the same day... it was not a good day for us.


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Posted: 4/16/2009 1:02:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ThaDrizzle77:

I need, NEED somebody who thinks this is a great move to come forward and explain yourself!
 
I would rather trust my team to Nicholas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas.  A binging alcoholic on a drunken, suicidal sabbatical would be more trustworthy at a D-1 program then Zeke.
 
First off, the guy is a funkin' pig.  He will rest at nothing to get another sexual harrassment assault on him.  And if he doesn't do that, he'll surely start s**t with another coach, AD, alumni, etc etc. The man has caused nothing but problems on every coaching stop he has ever made.  What makes you think he will stop now?
 
And I understand going "big name fishing" but why a man like Zeke?  Why a man that is USING you to get a second chance at the NBA by pulling off a "miracle" run and taking a sub-par, under .500 team to glory, then bouncing.  Obviously that will NEVER happen, but we aren't talking about a sane person, we're talking about Isiah.  And instead of picking a coach in the family, a big name that is actually a proven winner ala Nolan Richardson, they go after some bum loser with severe head trauma.  You lose any ounce of respect for your program that you once had with this move.
 
But here is the most important factor in why this was a BONEHEAD move from all parties involved. 
 
R-E-C-R-U-I-T-I-N-G   
 
Parents and basketball players in the Florida area will really buy into Zeke's "plan?"  Obviously, if you are a D-1 recruit, both you and your parents know about basketball, and they BOTH know about this idiots track record.  So you are going to look at Zeke right between the eyes in your living room when he is pitching his "future" for your boy, and you are going to believe him?  You are going to really turn a trustworthy ear?  THIS MAN IS USING YOUR KIDS TO GET SOMETHING THAT HE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN.  You are going to funking listen?  You are going to trust your sons future in his hands?
 
No, no, no, no, no, no!!!  I would rather have Bing Crosby as a babysitter then trust Zeke with my D-1 future both in athletes and parents eyes.
 
Please, justify this, somehow...anyhow.  How could you?  Why would you try?
 
You are truly the BIGGEST bonehead not only basketball, but SPORT has ever seen.  Pathetic.


I think this is point and case.

FIU is NOTHING in basketball. No one cares about them but all of a sudden you have given more time discussing and noticing FIU basketball over the past 2 days then you have the rest of your life combined.

If I remember correctly Zeke did a great job in Indiana, coaching. The NYK made the awful decision to hire Zeke as GM or whatever position. Michael Jordan has just as much bad history with sexual assualts and other women issues as Zeke. Then look how MJ has ruined 2 NBA franchises with awful decision making. Zeke was over his head with the NYK job and made awful decisions.

He now gets a new start at a place that is not expected to do anything. ITs a win-win situation for both parties. FIU gets their name out there and Zeke gets another chance to be successful and possibly coach at a better college sports program or get back into hte NBA.

His name and who he is will get better players at FIU. Zeke knows basketball and knows how the PG postion is suppose to be played. I would not be surprised to see some middle of the pack-top level guards going to FIU to play.

He has no pressure or lofty expectations at FIU. Only good things can happen.

No one had any of this outrage about Billy G at UK. He is known to be a womanizer and an ex player of his at A&M or whereever he came from said he slept with his GF when he was a part of the team.
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Posted: 4/16/2009 1:38:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jpero:



I think this is point and case.

FIU is NOTHING in basketball. No one cares about them but all of a sudden you have given more time discussing and noticing FIU basketball over the past 2 days then you have the rest of your life combined.

If I remember correctly Zeke did a great job in Indiana, coaching. The NYK made the awful decision to hire Zeke as GM or whatever position. Michael Jordan has just as much bad history with sexual assualts and other women issues as Zeke. Then look how MJ has ruined 2 NBA franchises with awful decision making. Zeke was over his head with the NYK job and made awful decisions.

He now gets a new start at a place that is not expected to do anything. ITs a win-win situation for both parties. FIU gets their name out there and Zeke gets another chance to be successful and possibly coach at a better college sports program or get back into hte NBA.

His name and who he is will get better players at FIU. Zeke knows basketball and knows how the PG postion is suppose to be played. I would not be surprised to see some middle of the pack-top level guards going to FIU to play.

He has no pressure or lofty expectations at FIU. Only good things can happen.

No one had any of this outrage about Billy G at UK. He is known to be a womanizer and an ex player of his at A&M or whereever he came from said he slept with his GF when he was a part of the team.


Or he can bring the program down even further like he did to the Knicks.  All it would take is a scandal, or more charges, or another suicide attempt, or anything along those lines to bring FIU a bad bad name.  Hopefully this is a much more manageable level for him because he embarassed himself and his name at the professional level
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Posted: 4/16/2009 2:06:03 PM
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Or he can bring the program down even further like he did to the Knicks.  All it would take is a scandal, or more charges, or another suicide attempt, or anything along those lines to bring FIU a bad bad name.  Hopefully this is a much more manageable level for him because he embarassed himself and his name at the professional level


He embarrassed himself no more than the NYK embarrassed themselves. He was a part of the organization and the Knicks were the ones who hired Zeke.

All Zeke did was make horrible trades, awful drafts, and then named himself coach. All of his publicized problems/controversies happened with the Knicks. During his short 4-5 year stay with NYK, nothing before NY. Now that he is out of that situation he probably no longer has the stress and pressure to perform.

Shame on you for bringing up his personal life and claiming he might try committing suicide again and that would be ruin FIU. There is no viable reports or medical reports that indicate it was a suicide attempt. Any combination of medication that involves sleeping meds can be harmful and cause unexpected results.

I guess Bobby Knight is wrong by saying that Zeke is a great player and person and expects him to do well at FIU. He also said he would help Zeke out with getting associated with the college game and how things operate. Bobby Knight is a great judge of character and for him to be helping out Isiah, after all the controversy, shows he still believes and knows that Zeke is a great person.
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Posted: 4/16/2009 10:22:41 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jpero:



He embarrassed himself no more than the NYK embarrassed themselves. He was a part of the organization and the Knicks were the ones who hired Zeke.

All Zeke did was make horrible trades, awful drafts, and then named himself coach. All of his publicized problems/controversies happened with the Knicks. During his short 4-5 year stay with NYK, nothing before NY. Now that he is out of that situation he probably no longer has the stress and pressure to perform.

Shame on you for bringing up his personal life and claiming he might try committing suicide again and that would be ruin FIU. There is no viable reports or medical reports that indicate it was a suicide attempt. Any combination of medication that involves sleeping meds can be harmful and cause unexpected results.

I guess Bobby Knight is wrong by saying that Zeke is a great player and person and expects him to do well at FIU. He also said he would help Zeke out with getting associated with the college game and how things operate. Bobby Knight is a great judge of character and for him to be helping out Isiah, after all the controversy, shows he still believes and knows that Zeke is a great person.


Never said Isiah Thomas is a bad guy but all the FACTS point to a suicide attempt.  Sure "any combination of sleeping meds can cause harm" or whatever silly way you wanted to put it... but time to face reality... it was not A COMBINATION of pills it was MANY MANY MANY of ONE pill... LUNESTA.  He took enough to be UNCONSCIOUS and NOT BREATHING.  Yes they had to revive him...

And sexual harassment and racism... have NOTHING to do with the New York Knicks.  Shame on you for condoning this kind of atrocious behavior. 
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Posted: 4/16/2009 10:25:56 PM
And just to get an understanding of this...

Lunesta studies issued warnings that are well documented and can be found online with a little bit of searching.  Each Lunesta pill is about 2mg.  To fatally overdose on Lunesta would would have to take about 36mg.  That is 18 sleeping pills.  I don't think Isiah Thomas felt so stressed about his daughters hospitalization that he took 18 pills.  That is hard for me to believe.

Also read up about his racism...


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Posted: 4/17/2009 4:57:55 AM
Isiah is a prime example of a headcase no matter which way you slice it.  The sleeping meds OD was just one little trickle in a flood of problems with Zeke.
 
I just don't understand how anybody is going to buy his pitch when he is just using FIU as a magical gateway back to the NBA.  I would rather be an Osprey at North Florida then put up with four--ehhh hmmm excuse me, two or two and a half years of Zeke. 
 
There is no way around this guys mental problems.  FIU is just polishing the wrong terd, and it's not right throwing several "in the family" candidates for the coaching job for some nut that gets one to many chances.  If it walks like a duck, if it looks like a duck, it's a motherf**king duck.
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Posted: 4/17/2009 6:33:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ThaDrizzle77:

Isiah is a prime example of a headcase no matter which way you slice it.  The sleeping meds OD was just one little trickle in a flood of problems with Zeke.
 
I just don't understand how anybody is going to buy his pitch when he is just using FIU as a magical gateway back to the NBA.  I would rather be an Osprey at North Florida then put up with four--ehhh hmmm excuse me, two or two and a half years of Zeke. 
 
There is no way around this guys mental problems.  FIU is just polishing the wrong terd, and it's not right throwing several "in the family" candidates for the coaching job for some nut that gets one to many chances.  If it walks like a duck, if it looks like a duck, it's a motherf**king duck.


Drizz-  If you haven't figured it out yet jpero likes to take anything contraversial, and back the side that is clearly wrong... even at the expense of looking like an behind.  Clearly Isiah Thomas is a huge headcase, he always has been.  It stems way beyond when he was the GM of the Knicks. 

FIU knows he has a big time name, and hopes he can bring in big time recruits... MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.  At the same time they are risking embarassing the school beyond belief, and making a horrible name for themselves.  It is one thing to be a bad program... it is another thing to be a bad humiliated and embarassed program
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Posted: 4/17/2009 2:24:15 PM
If Isiah was such a headcase previous to the Knicks job can you individually label every single event/incident that took place?

Have you thought that maybe he might have been drinking when he took the sleeping meds.... That could have the same effects of taking "30" as you claim woop.

Woop you are a knicks fan. So you are going to hate on Isiah no matter what. What you fail to realize is Dolan is the one who decided to hire Isiah. That makes him just as much at fault as Zeke. HE was the one who hired him and has to sleep in the bed he made.

Its amazing how you blame Calhoun for every single player's arrest and everythign they do but when it comes to one of your beloved teams you say Isiah has nothing to do with the knicks. Oh the double standard.
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Posted: 4/17/2009 2:30:35 PM
Isiah is ultra competitive and that was the root of some of his scuffles during his playing days. After his playing days he has not been in the papers or limelight for anything other than the knicks stuff.

Could it have been that the Knicks job was so stressful and Zeke was underqualified that it just had a domino effect?

Does anyone else realize that stars have trouble going to NYC for any sport? Its a completely different atmosphere and could derail careers.

IMO not that Zeke is out of that situation he has absolutely no pressure. He can do his job without having someone breath down his neck and scrutinize ever player move he makes. A lot of coaches don't have success in the NBA but then do a great job in college.

Bobby Knight must be retarded for saying that he thought it was a good hire and good situation for both Zeke and the school. He also talked about hwo great a person Isiah is since he has kept in touch with him from when he left IU up until now. Bobby Knight is not afraid to speak his mind and if he did not agree with the Zeke hire he would have never said anything regarding the situation.
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