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Author:	[Nascar] Topic: No team sponsors as race sponsors
joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#1 Posted: 3/10/2012 12:54:56 AM anybody else think this idea stinks from the top down....allowing a car/team sponsor to be able to sponsor an individual race just does not seem to go toward any integrity at all ...or maybe just me
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Captain Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 5402 Location: Georgia	#2 Posted: 3/10/2012 1:03:15 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by joboarder: anybody else think this idea stinks from the top down....allowing a car/team sponsor to be able to sponsor an individual race just does not seem to go toward any integrity at all ...or maybe just me example ??
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#3 Posted: 3/10/2012 1:27:59 AM Jimmy Johnson sponsored Kobalt team has won 4 of the last 7 Kobalt Tools 400.....
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#4 Posted: 3/10/2012 1:38:22 AM Jimmy Johnson Kobalt sponsored team has won 3 of the last 5 Kobalt Tools 500 also....
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#5 Posted: 3/10/2012 1:40:16 AM so they have won 7 of the last 12 Kobalt sponsored races with a Kobalt sponsored race team at two different tracks ...HMMM ???
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stats1	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Captain Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 5402 Location: Georgia	#6 Posted: 3/10/2012 2:01:33 AM did they win any last year?? were these races at atl.,char. vegas 1 of tracks jj has dominated on?
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#7 Posted: 3/10/2012 2:49:18 AM You asked for examples and give them to you....not sure what you mean ...Atl char vegas...yes these Kobalt wins were at Vegas and Pnx ...just raising a point not looking to fight
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#8 Posted: 3/10/2012 2:50:53 AM they run the Kobalt 400 and 500's at Pnx and Las Vegas
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Captain Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 5402 Location: Georgia	#9 Posted: 3/10/2012 12:15:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by joboarder: they run the Kobalt 400 and 500's at Pnx and Las Vegas not trying 2 fight buddy was just wondering if the races were at certain tracks i named jj has a few tracks that prior 2 last yr he dominated at...
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#10 Posted: 3/10/2012 12:31:35 PM Just seems like Nascar geasing the wheels sort of thing....Lowes team with Kobalt and Chad Knaus should be suspended with this race part of it....Kobalt Tools 400.I understand they are appealing but let me get this straight....Kobalt Tools 400 $$$$$......Kobalt sponsored Kendrick team $$$$$$.....ok team stays intact at a track THEY do well at...HMMMMM ? would not want to piss off a major sponsor...and dont tell me Nascar does not let the all mighty dollar skew their judgement just a bit
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joboarder	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 828 Location: Florida	#11 Posted: 3/10/2012 12:36:55 PM Kind of like baseball when a guy appeals a suspension when they have the Yankees or Phillies coming up and then when to team travels to Kansas City they decide to not appeal....What is taking Nascar so long to decide about a hearing ? maybe they wanted to wait until AFTER the Kobalt 400 maybe ?
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MillerLiteBoy	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1442 Location: United States	#12 Posted: 3/11/2012 10:13:15 AM I don't think you can skew anyones opinion here. Nascar is as crooked as it comes and they certainly can sway a race they way they want.
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Mark_The_Narc	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1372 Location: United States	#13 Posted: 3/12/2012 2:54:36 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by MillerLiteBoy: I don't think you can skew anyones opinion here. Nascar is as crooked as it comes and they certainly can sway a race they way they want. What do you know debris on the track. Funny how that always seems to happen when someone popular is exactly the first car one lap down.
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vegasdennis	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 21932 Location: Nevada	#14 Posted: 3/12/2012 9:04:58 PM While I agree with MLB and Mark. Lowes very smart in sponsoring races where JJ runs very well
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stats1	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Captain Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 5402 Location: Georgia	#15 Posted: 3/12/2012 9:08:49 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by vegasdennis: While I agree with MLB and Mark. Lowes very smart in sponsoring races where JJ runs very well agree 100%
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TREE88	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
MVP Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 19139 Location: Oklahoma	#16 Posted: 3/12/2012 10:19:25 PM Dude I think you are way off here. The fact that a team sponsor sponsors a particular race has nothing to do with who wins it. Jimmie is a threat to win at every track he goes to. Doesn't hurt that Lowes/Kobalt sponsors the ones he's really good at. Do you have any other examples or is Jimmie/Kobalt your sole reasoning for your conspiracy theory.
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vegasdennis	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 21932 Location: Nevada	#17 Posted: 3/12/2012 10:21:37 PM Should I bet Almirola @ Kansas since STP 400
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TREE88	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
MVP Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 19139 Location: Oklahoma	#18 Posted: 3/12/2012 10:24:48 PM Hell AMP energy sponsored races aint helped my boy win in 500 million races now!!
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vegasdennis	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 21932 Location: Nevada	#19 Posted: 3/12/2012 10:27:10 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TREE88: Hell AMP energy sponsored races aint helped my boy win in 500 million races now!! Didn't help mr Ed having ford sponsor Homestead
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TREE88	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
MVP Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 19139 Location: Oklahoma	#20 Posted: 3/12/2012 10:29:00 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by vegasdennis: Didn't help mr Ed having ford sponsor Homestead A race in which he was supposed to claim the crown!
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vegasdennis	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 21932 Location: Nevada	#21 Posted: 3/12/2012 10:34:57 PM Wish Army would sponsor about 4 races if this theories true
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