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[College Football] Topic: Gundy's decision to go for 3...Thoughts welcomed! |
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#1 Posted: 1/3/2012 9:36:54 AM
1. Isn't there many more things which can go wrong trying a fg, than simply try a running play from half yd out? The snap, the hold, the kicker, also can be blocked. while just running a play there would be less a risk IMHO.
2. Stanford's coach LOST the game for stanford IMHO with his IDIOTIC play calling end of regulation. He was content for a middle range fg attempt, rather than put the ball in hands of ur all world qb to make a play to either score a td, or at least move ball closer for an easier fg. The play calling by stanford was BAFFLING, at least to me.
If Gundy is throwing the ball in that spot, where his reciever was tackled at thehalf yd line, surely u would think he would just bang it in with a run play. Also, the play right before fg where he had his qb take a snap from shotgun to move ball in middle of field? Shotgun?
NFL NOTE.....Nice that Archie Manning has this much power in game, where he dictates where Eli will play, and now powers Irsay to fire probably one of the best if not the best Gms in game. Clearly Polian wanted Manning traded, clearly archie would have no part of that, and for Peyton to say he is shocked? BULLSHIT. He had him fired.
So now the question is, what do the colts ask for to trade Luck? As a Jet fan, I would offer Keller, Harris and a few picks..if i had to, i would offer Revis straight up for him. |
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#2 Posted: 1/3/2012 9:40:11 AM
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#4 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:02:28 AM I think OkSt played exceptional defense during the OT .
actually, OkSt won the game by going for the FG , so, ipso facto
it was a good decision. |
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#5 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:15:09 AM |
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#6 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:22:00 AM I had standford +4.5 and was on the right side for a change.seems like this kind of breaks always go the other way lucky enough it went my way this time, I was actually thinking oak st would punch it in on the ground but glad i didnt, I do feel for most people on the other side considering i been there before. |
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#7 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:31:54 AM What's with the two straight running plays at the end that got Stan nowhere. Luck should have been flinging it on every down for that OT drive. |
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#9 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:47:08 AM I think the thing that made this game ending so dramatic was the certainty of one side winning, then it flipped to certainty of the other side , then certainty back.
1. Likelyhood that Stanford was gonna cover and probably win outright. I dont think Stanford ever trailed during regulation.
2. certainty Stanford would kick the game winner, after a dramatic last minute drive,
3. hope was still alive ( for OkSt ) to cover during OT.
4. certainty that Stanford field goal would set up a possible cover by OK St.
5. OK St scores the covering touchdown in OT ,,,,
6. review comfirms that it is not a touchdown, but they will punch it in.
( I agree, I owuld guess that 99% of the time, you would see the team punch it in for a TD and not risk a mis-snap on a field goal try, or block)
7. Stanford covers the spread. |
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#10 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:53:22 AM
i won with stanford by the way
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#11 Posted: 1/3/2012 10:55:27 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by shark_apreza:
i won with stanford by the way
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#12 Posted: 1/3/2012 11:07:27 AM
ON A VEGAS PENT HOUSE
fiesta bowl las play of regulation after stanford kicker missed the fg:
VEGAS KING PIN: NOOOOOOO , NOOOOO WHY THE darn U SHANK THE FG U DUMB ROOKKK  , YOU IDIOT WE HAD THOUSANDS OF MORONS ON OKST AND WE WERE ABOUT TO CASH....DAM IT---
fiesta bowl after stanford missed a second str8 Fg in OT:
VEGAS KINGPIN: AGAINNN AGAINNN YOU DUMB darn KID, I WILL GIVE MY NIGGASSS A CALL AND HAVE YOU SMOKED
fista bowl after okst didnt got the TD and the officials were reviewing:
VEGAS KING PIN: YESSSS YESSS, THATS IT , IM CALLING GUNDY
from okst booth
RIIINGGGGG RRIIINNGG
GUNDY--- YEAH--WHO IS THIS
VEGAS KINGPIN: GUNDY --VEGAS HERE
GUNDY-- YEAH BOSS , WHATS UP, WERE CELEBRATING
VEGAS KINGPIN: YEAH YOU MORON I BET YOU ARE, NOW WE WANT TO CELEBRATE IN VEGAS YOU DUMB darn, TOLD U TO PUT ON DA BREAKS ON YOUR OFFENSE UIR SCHERDING STANFORD YOU IDIOT
GUNDY: SORRY BOSS, WHATS THE ORDER
VEGAS KING PIN: LISTEN YOU behind--- DONT GO FOR THE TD MAKE THAT OLD FART OF A MINOR LEAGUE WASTE QB YOU HAVE TO TAKE A KNEE AND KICK A friggin FG
GUNDY: OK BOSS, JUST MAKE SURE U GOT MY MONEY
VEGAS KINGPIN: YOU CAN BET THAT... VEGAS OUT
THATS THE REAL AND ONLY EXPLANATION
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#13 Posted: 1/3/2012 2:59:10 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by shark_apreza:
OR MAYBE GUNDY GOT THE CALL FROM VEGAS
ON A VEGAS PENT HOUSE
fiesta bowl las play of regulation after stanford kicker missed the fg:
VEGAS KING PIN: NOOOOOOO , NOOOOO WHY THE darn U SHANK THE FG U DUMB ROOKKK, YOU IDIOT WE HAD THOUSANDS OF MORONS ON OKST AND WE WERE ABOUT TO CASH....DAM IT---
fiesta bowl after stanford missed a second str8 Fg in OT:
VEGAS KINGPIN: AGAINNN AGAINNN YOU DUMB darn KID, I WILL GIVE MY NIGGASSS A CALL AND HAVE YOU SMOKED
fista bowl after okst didnt got the TD and the officials were reviewing:
VEGAS KING PIN: YESSSS YESSS, THATS IT , IM CALLING GUNDY
from okst booth
RIIINGGGGG RRIIINNGG
GUNDY--- YEAH--WHO IS THIS
VEGAS KINGPIN: GUNDY --VEGAS HERE
GUNDY-- YEAH BOSS , WHATS UP, WERE CELEBRATING
VEGAS KINGPIN: YEAH YOU MORON I BET YOU ARE, NOW WE WANT TO CELEBRATE IN VEGAS YOU DUMB darn, TOLD U TO PUT ON DA BREAKS ON YOUR OFFENSE UIR SCHERDING STANFORD YOU IDIOT
GUNDY: SORRY BOSS, WHATS THE ORDER
VEGAS KING PIN: LISTEN YOU behind--- DONT GO FOR THE TD MAKE THAT OLD FART OF A MINOR LEAGUE WASTE QB YOU HAVE TO TAKE A KNEE AND KICK A friggin FG
GUNDY: OK BOSS, JUST MAKE SURE U GOT MY MONEY
VEGAS KINGPIN: YOU CAN BET THAT... VEGAS OUT
THATS THE REAL AND ONLY EXPLANATION
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#14 Posted: 1/3/2012 3:09:37 PM
They had to snap the ball twice, out of the shotgun instead of a snap underneath the center. They had to have both snaps accurate and caught twice. They had to have a good hold, and a good kick. They also had to have good protection up front to make sure that the kick was not blocked.
I would have rather put the game in the hands of the people that handle the ball more often, the 28 year old QB and the center.
Lastly, Mike Gundy "Be a Man. Score a TD."
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#15 Posted: 1/3/2012 4:25:50 PM
And i heard from people in Indy that Polian was fired because he did not draft any young talent and because he was letting his son do most of the GM work in the past 2 years, and that it did not have anything to do with Manning - Luck situation.
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#20 Posted: 1/3/2012 7:14:15 PM I disagree...........What are the percentages of a 20 yard field goal? How many 20 yard field goals (extra Points) are messed up? I don't have the exact numbers but I would guess the percentage is in the high 90%? those are pretty good odds, in fact I'll take those odds all day if I'm a head coach.
Trust me some things can go wrong with just handing the ball off too. Not to mention you have 11 defensive guys trying to strip the ball. |
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#22 Posted: 1/3/2012 7:29:13 PM 
Right decision it won the game!!
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#23 Posted: 1/3/2012 7:33:41 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by alwaysrollfor3:
I had stanford so i am happy the way game turned out..BUT i have a few questions1. Isn't there many more things which can go wrong trying a fg, than simply try a running play from half yd out? The snap, the hold, the kicker, also can be blocked. while just running a play there would be less a risk IMHO.
Gundy did what he thought was the right call. He has a first team all american kicker. It was chippy that was guaranteeing him a win. I had okie st and pretty much new that with a kicker like sharp, he was going to kick the fg. I was surprise that he even try to throw the ball.
2. Stanford's coach LOST the game for stanford IMHO with his IDIOTIC play calling end of regulation. He was content for a middle range fg attempt, rather than put the ball in hands of ur all world qb to make a play to either score a td, or at least move ball closer for an easier fg. The play calling by stanford was BAFFLING, at least to me.
Totally agree. Stanford got conservative. and it cost them the game.
If Gundy is throwing the ball in that spot, where his reciever was tackled at thehalf yd line, surely u would think he would just bang it in with a run play. Also, the play right before fg where he had his qb take a snap from shotgun to move ball in middle of field? Shotgun?
The reason for the shotgun snap is that Okie st doesn't take snaps from under center. they are a spread shotgun offense and it would be more of a risk for them to run a play under center where they are not comfortable. we have seen qbs that are so use to playing in the shot gun that when they go under center, the get nervous and uncomfortable.
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