Minimum needed to live the dream

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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:33:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

After reading through all of these posts, I can't understand those that say just stay in your home town and bet online.
Where can you bet online from the USA? Over the past 7 years I have been excluded from Pinny and all of the other good off shore books. I am now stuck with BetUS for the past 2 years and they have 20 cent baseball lines which is horrible. Unless you have a foreign address, the best option is Nevada. Am I missing something here?
SBG Global and 5 Dimes have dime lines for baseball and take US players . There are probably others .
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:12:12 PM
565 is 100 percent right just a few in the world can make a living at doing this 99,99 percent don't make it but gl trying
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:33:37 PM
Just work for a living...this should be just side money. It seems like people can make $ in a part time way. If not, go work at a sports book in Vegas! Win-Win...get paid, can be around this type of environment, and it's all legal.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 3:10:24 AM
slim where u at? I'm in vegas also.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 3:11:45 AM

2 months,no slim sightings,slimmmmmmmmmmmmm

hope your not sleeping in the wash tunnels.

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Posted: 12/24/2012 6:12:18 AM
Work for enough to make ends meet, then gamble what's left over. When sports investing is NOT your means of living, rather just side money, you feel likeyou win more often, so you do win more often within your Flow.

When you win more often you won't end up an angry loser type,
like some taco-puss all grouch-faced.

Less Grinchesque Christmas and New Years will be yours instead.

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Posted: 12/24/2012 6:19:56 AM



Slim, U @ Mirage tonight?  Rudy wants te buy yez a drink...
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Posted: 12/27/2012 5:49:04 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

I have thought about your post a lot. I had some decent success at poker and black jack in my day. I have never gotten over the sports betting hurdle. It owns me.
I would have liked to try to make it at Poker but earn to good of living at what I do to risk it and have the infamous fear of failure.
I recently took a big financial risk and it is panning out for me. I hesitated to do it for years because of my fear of failure but finally, with encouragement from my wife, did it and have never been happier .
I wish you the best, I truly do, go for it, have fun and just do it!
Some words of advice.
1) You must only play games that you have a statistical advantage over- Poker, Sports Betting, BJ ( and knowing how to count) and Horse Racing ( if you are a hell of a capper) You cannot and will not win at slot, Craps, roulette etc over the long haul.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/8408-cake-poker-buys-t-j-cloutier-s-bracelet-off-ebay

2) You must be a master of the games you choose to play. If you play successful poker, you must never be the sucker. If you do not know what I mean, get out now.  I read 20 books on poker, read the forums over hands, learned to figure my odds and tried ( and succeeded sometimes) not to tilt. It must be your job, not your recreation. You will be playing for 1-3 bets an hour, that is it.  As I had success at poker, I moved up tables, starting from the small stakes games and getting to the large. You realize this in a hurry, there are no fish at a $20-$40 table, those players are there because they are quite good. Sometimes, you will feel like they can see your cards.
You should feel like you can see the cards of the other players at the low stakes games. 

3) If you plan to bet sports all day everyday then you need a unit system to wager on. Usually 2-4% or so of your total bankroll. Do not deviate from it, that is the road to ruin. You need to have a capping angle that no one else has. When you get it, do not share it, keep it for your own. This will be your advantage. I have tried dozens and all have failed. I will keep trying and have some this year for the NFL, I am very interested in.
4) You must learn to watch sports impassionately, objectively. It is about the money, not your team. I bet against the Rockies, far more than I bet on them, as they are terrible overvalued this year (still)
5) Look for friends that are winners. Surround yourself with positive energy, do not get in with those that are always chasing down, looking to get a loan etc. That is another thing, do not loan or borrow money. This is your job. Keep it to yourself.
6) Shop and get the best lines, I cannot emphasize this enough, the juice is what kills you over time. 5dimes is solid and will pay for now better than a book.

Let us all tail you! It will be a blast for me and the rest of the covers community. I am jealous and would love to live vicariously through you. Best of luck, knock em dead!
This "Holy Grail" system does exist. And I have it. 
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Posted: 12/27/2012 6:09:19 AM
Living in Vegas and gamble for a living is a shallow dream. You will be lonely and bore to death.  This is a better dream:

1. find a sport betting system, it does exist. I can't tell you but it's there. 
2.play 2-4% bank roll each play. 55% sure return each day. 

2.find a good wife (non materialistic and make-up free type)
3.start a small business, involve the wife.
4.have some kids
5.vacation 4-5 times a year. 
6.Life is now beautiful. Enjoy

 I did all that within 5 years. Finding a good wife part is hella hard (even that i needed a system). hahaha


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Posted: 12/29/2012 1:40:02 PM
Hey guys,,..finally got intent-net access... Signal gets lost a lot  from under the bridge I am currently living under,...(I am using my street buddy Cue Ball's  new IPHONE now..)...doing great,.a bit cold at night, but me and the guys usually make a fire, swig 40's and smoke crack to keep warm. 

I sit at a downtown intersection during the day with a sign that say's , "to hell with the food, I need a beer"..works great, because its like I am being honest or something?




Really....still having fun...not going crazy with me bets. Its funny, gambling has always been good to me..I remember times when I actually needed money and I won when I needed too. I really don't need money know so I been giving a little back to the gambling gods. 

I agree with the guy that said get a wife and have a kid, and maybe start a business...I am looking at the business aspect right now...but until then, just working out and betting games! 

Could be worse! 
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Posted: 12/30/2012 2:47:36 AM
lets hear some figures
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Posted: 12/30/2012 4:23:54 AM
Hope you are making 


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Posted: 12/30/2012 5:50:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Phodacbiet:

Living in Vegas and gamble for a living is a shallow dream. You will be lonely and bore to death.  This is a better dream:

1. find a sport betting system, it does exist. I can't tell you but it's there. 
2.play 2-4% bank roll each play. 55% sure return each day. 

2.find a good wife (non materialistic and make-up free type)
3.start a small business, involve the wife.
4.have some kids
5.vacation 4-5 times a year. 
6.Life is now beautiful. Enjoy

 I did all that within 5 years. Finding a good wife part is hella hard (even that i needed a system). hahaha


Are you in Vegas?  Would love to sit down & compare systems.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 10:08:11 PM
ha,there you are.wife and kids are overrated.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 12:12:55 AM
Im going to live the dream in Mesquite, being that it's only three hours from my home now, doesn't have to be Vegas
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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:58:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by renorunner2:

honestly I think anyone who uses any of these lame covers avatars are just lazy of dumb, just sayin...
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Posted: 1/21/2013 2:07:27 PM
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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:20:10 PM
I just don't get it, if you can use online sportsbooks, what benefit is there in moving to Vegas, unless you are on the strip the town if full of cons and degenerates, I armchair gamble by the pool using 5 different sportsbooks  and I don't even think about heading to Vegas.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:56:43 AM
I can't be the only one who thinks this lifestyle sounds like a nightmare, and not a dream....
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Posted: 1/24/2013 4:28:12 PM
Vegas-pays you cash 5 minutes after final-has at least 10/20 different sites and lines- doesn't require you to f%&# with WU,credit card,paycard,bankwire, or fedex as you send your money money to Juan in PuertoRico/Singapore-hotelbook hasn't dealt me a sucker line or closed down in the middle of the night-book has never refused to pay a bet that I have placed/funded-vegas has never refused my bet or limited my action to any amount less then maximum-vegas has never refused to pay me all the amount of any bet I won. Vegas has never told me you can't bet here anymore.
 
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:24:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 666LES:

Vegas-pays you cash 5 minutes after final-has at least 10/20 different sites and lines- doesn't require you to f%&# with WU,credit card,paycard,bankwire, or fedex as you send your money money to Juan in PuertoRico/Singapore-hotelbook hasn't dealt me a sucker line or closed down in the middle of the night-book has never refused to pay a bet that I have placed/funded-vegas has never refused my bet or limited my action to any amount less then maximum-vegas has never refused to pay me all the amount of any bet I won. Vegas has never told me you can't bet here anymore.
 
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:41:43 AM
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:02:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 666LES:

Vegas-pays you cash 5 minutes after final-has at least 10/20 different sites and lines- doesn't require you to f%&# with WU,credit card,paycard,bankwire, or fedex as you send your money money to Juan in PuertoRico/Singapore-hotelbook hasn't dealt me a sucker line or closed down in the middle of the night-book has never refused to pay a bet that I have placed/funded-vegas has never refused my bet or limited my action to any amount less then maximum-vegas has never refused to pay me all the amount of any bet I won. Vegas has never told me you can't bet here anymore.
 
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or go out of business and take your money with them
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:05:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

I have thought about your post a lot. I had some decent success at poker and black jack in my day. I have never gotten over the sports betting hurdle. It owns me.
I would have liked to try to make it at Poker but earn to good of living at what I do to risk it and have the infamous fear of failure.
I recently took a big financial risk and it is panning out for me. I hesitated to do it for years because of my fear of failure but finally, with encouragement from my wife, did it and have never been happier .
I wish you the best, I truly do, go for it, have fun and just do it!
Some words of advice.
1) You must only play games that you have a statistical advantage over- Poker, Sports Betting, BJ ( and knowing how to count) and Horse Racing ( if you are a hell of a capper) You cannot and will not win at slot, Craps, roulette etc over the long haul.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/8408-cake-poker-buys-t-j-cloutier-s-bracelet-off-ebay

2) You must be a master of the games you choose to play. If you play successful poker, you must never be the sucker. If you do not know what I mean, get out now.  I read 20 books on poker, read the forums over hands, learned to figure my odds and tried ( and succeeded sometimes) not to tilt. It must be your job, not your recreation. You will be playing for 1-3 bets an hour, that is it.  As I had success at poker, I moved up tables, starting from the small stakes games and getting to the large. You realize this in a hurry, there are no fish at a $20-$40 table, those players are there because they are quite good. Sometimes, you will feel like they can see your cards.
You should feel like you can see the cards of the other players at the low stakes games. 

3) If you plan to bet sports all day everyday then you need a unit system to wager on. Usually 2-4% or so of your total bankroll. Do not deviate from it, that is the road to ruin. You need to have a capping angle that no one else has. When you get it, do not share it, keep it for your own. This will be your advantage. I have tried dozens and all have failed. I will keep trying and have some this year for the NFL, I am very interested in.
4) You must learn to watch sports impassionately, objectively. It is about the money, not your team. I bet against the Rockies, far more than I bet on them, as they are terrible overvalued this year (still)
5) Look for friends that are winners. Surround yourself with positive energy, do not get in with those that are always chasing down, looking to get a loan etc. That is another thing, do not loan or borrow money. This is your job. Keep it to yourself.
6) Shop and get the best lines, I cannot emphasize this enough, the juice is what kills you over time. 5dimes is solid and will pay for now better than a book.

Let us all tail you! It will be a blast for me and the rest of the covers community. I am jealous and would love to live vicariously through you. Best of luck, knock em dead!

Won at sports betting this year.
My first.
I have learned to tail the great cappers on here and got a service from a friend that has been very good.
Will not live or retire on what I won but will seed my account for next year.
NBA has simply "killed" me the last couple of year and I am unsure if I want to bet much in that this year.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 7:56:46 AM

I have lived "the dream" for the last fifty years.  It is a pure nightmare.  Sure I have made the big scores.  Plenty of them, but

the downturns are something else.  I am in one now lose at

everything.   Poker I can't win a hand.   Just lost a big pot with

AK vs AQ.  I had no chance flop come A Q rag.  I was winning

$250 wind up losing a hundred for the night.  I lost about four

photos in a row.  One was for a $400 pick four.  Yes, the

dream is a nightmare with no way out.

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