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Posted: 3/31/2012 9:04:22 AM
I remember when I was a kid collecting baseball and football cards was easy, it was all about who you had. Now it's alot more complicated it seems, it's about who you have, what kind of card, if it's an auto, game used memorabilia, short print and the list goes on and on. And the companies that make them like Topps and Panini have so many different sets to collect it's crazy, I remember when it all seemed pretty straightforward. Don't get me wrong tho, I still love the hobby, I have since I was a little kid. I guess I'm bringing this up cuz I've been thinking really seriously lately about opening up a sports memorabilia shop that has an old-timey nostalgic feel to it, a place that as soon as you walk in,it feels like you just traveled back in time, ah maybe it's just me being nostalgic and remembering when everything was simpler and times seemed easier but at any rate I would like to open a shop like that and give customers that same feeling and rememberance.
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Posted: 3/31/2012 9:17:33 AM

^ i feel the same way man..  i recently got back into collecting cause i wanted certain Autographs and "Game Worn" cards and i wanted something me and my 7yr old can do together but its so different from when i was younger, packs and boxes are 20x's more today plus there's multiple series and different color'd auto's that are better then regular auto's.. 

i look for #'d cards under 25 and mostly collect UFC cards now.. i grab some football and baseball but not as many..  its an expensive hobby though..   GL with your idea to open a shop..

and your right, things were so simpler n easier back in the day, Im 35 and im talking 20 years ago, roughly 1990-1994     i dont remember an autographs being in packs, it was just "Rookie" cards and "Lottery Picks" u looked for 

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Posted: 3/31/2012 9:44:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by --phillyfan--:

^ i feel the same way man..  i recently got back into collecting cause i wanted certain Autographs and "Game Worn" cards and i wanted something me and my 7yr old can do together but its so different from when i was younger, packs and boxes are 20x's more today plus there's multiple series and different color'd auto's that are better then regular auto's.. 

i look for #'d cards under 25 and mostly collect UFC cards now.. i grab some football and baseball but not as many..  its an expensive hobby though..   GL with your idea to open a shop..

and your right, things were so simpler n easier back in the day, Im 35 and im talking 20 years ago, roughly 1990-1994     i dont remember an autographs being in packs, it was just "Rookie" cards and "Lottery Picks" u looked for 

Thnx man, you're right it is expensive now and does seem easier and less expensive to just buy single cards that you're looking for, I just picked up a 66' Whitey Ford card the other day that is in near mint condition for around 4 bucks, the guy didn't know what he had I guess but I did tell him the book value of it and he didn't seem to care so I got it, I still felt bad for it tho but o well i guess. And I bought a Carolina Panthers full size helmet for 100 bucks signed by the whole team from last year from a guy who buys storage units and just wanted to get rid of it cuz he said he didn't really have the time to get it checked out, turns out after I got it home I found a certificate of authenticity from PSA folded up and tucked under one of the pads inside, very lucky buys on both of those tho and stuff like that very rarely happens.
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Posted: 3/31/2012 1:09:38 PM
yay bunch of bs. topps diamond give-a-way was BS... u gotta go online and insert the code... what a bogus joke...

and that company that grades ur cards is a middle man. lol

kinda like the guy that made a fortune selling shovels during the gold rush or the brothels...
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Posted: 3/31/2012 3:14:36 PM
No sooner did I see this thread, than I found a show called - Ball Boys - It's about guys that own a sports memorabilia shop.
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Posted: 3/31/2012 5:37:01 PM
ne good?
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Posted: 3/31/2012 5:38:10 PM
 Started getting flooded in the early 90's..........for a while you only had 3 choices..........Fleer, Donruss, or Topps. Then came Upper Deck, then Bowman, then all the special edition cards, then the floodgates opened & everything went to garbage.

 I'm still holding a ton of cards from the 60's, 70's, & 80's..........not sure when I'll look at them again.
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Posted: 3/31/2012 6:20:53 PM
i still collect all the time, its ridiculous as to how they deal with it all. 

Its easier just buying boxes and then trading with people.

 
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Posted: 3/31/2012 6:43:15 PM
I did pull a sweet cam newton Auto seriel /50.. 

Sold it to PhillyFan on covers for a real good deal 


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Posted: 3/31/2012 8:39:26 PM

I collected during the 80's when you could get a pack of 15 cards for $.50 cents. (Upper Deck were more when they first came out)

The other day I saw a pack, it was $1.99 for 6 cards...How the hell is a young kid suppose to put together a decent collection with those prices?

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Posted: 3/31/2012 9:54:07 PM
Collecting cards is like collecting stamps. There are so many keeping track is near impossible and values rarely rise. Your best bet is to trade graded cards of a particular series and let someone else buy box after box of junk. Becoming an expert at something is far more rewarding than keeping Topps in business.  
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Posted: 3/31/2012 11:47:24 PM
its become elitest. Its no longer good enough to buy a box of topps. The stores make you feel like you're ordering water at a bar. The economy sucks,money is tight. Plus now they have $500 packs of cardsI basically buy basic cards as well as cheap big sets of cards on ebay. Hope i helped suicideking
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Posted: 4/1/2012 8:27:19 AM
After looking thru a bunch of stuff it seems as tho football cards hold value better, interesting, I wish it was simple again and ya'll are right about the redemption progress, it sux, I'm still waiting for a Babe Ruth Die cut card I redeemed like 4 months ago, whether it's football or baseball tho it's all gotten outrageous, I saw a box of football cards the other day that came with 1 pack that has 4 cards- 650$ But you get 3 for sure auto's in the pack, still not very good when you can just track down the auto's you want and probably get all 3 cheaper than 650.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 11:20:13 AM
I did love my days collecting cards.  What even now is the boxes that have all the good stuff with the high end cards? 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:47:20 PM
theyre sets that come 1 or 2 cards per pack. so dumb 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:48:29 PM
you ever seen the youtube vids of people opening packs. geesh theyre the lucky few.

they get excited over 1/1 cards... 


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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:00:10 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

ne good?


For what I had time to watch, it was pretty good. Sort of like - Pawn Stars - but with sporting goods. These guys would own me at sports trivia.

If you sign "Michael Jordan" on a basketball and try to sell it, they'll know if it's authentic or not. Then again, that's what they do for a living.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:10:09 PM
they now do box breaks.. instead of spending 100+ on a box..

you can buy a specific team from the box... 

Then you watch a live video stream and whatever cards are from your team you get those.

easier way to collect your team and saving a hell of a lot of money 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:41:10 PM
the market is saturated with so many different types of cards and brands that it's very difficult to make money from collecting.  numbered cards and auto cards can offer a slight return, but i think the days of the $500 rookie card is over. 
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Posted: 4/2/2012 4:56:33 AM
I remember 3 brands, Topps, Donruss, and Fleer.  When I collected, Topps was worthless.  I have a factory sealed 1988 Topps set that I thought was a great investment at the time.  I was 8.  

That set is worth about $10 now, in fact it depreciated, when I got it it was worth $15 which is probably $30 now.  
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Posted: 4/2/2012 11:30:19 AM

EBay totally dictates the market now for sportscards.

Try finding a  local cardshop, close to impossible.  There are boxes of cards now that are $1500 and you only get 5 cards.. WTF

I've always enjoyed collecting cards, now I just concentrate on the less expensive sets - Score for football and victory for hockey. I just try to collect the entire master set. It's cheapper and I enjoy the chase of the inserts.

I recently got into UFC and that's getting saturated fast, its always the same guys, set after set for autographs and relic cards. There isn't the rookies and traded players like other sports. I just limit my UFC collecting to 2 boxes a year and make the set and move on.

I'm actually thinking of selling a large portion of my collection. Moving from a house to condo and no longer will have the space.  Will probably use EBay becuase I don't know any other way. But you seem to get maybe 1 cent per $1 value on that site, but it's a great way to unload I guess.

 

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Posted: 4/7/2012 8:02:32 PM

Back in the day ( for me ) abou 1985 to 1992 or 1993 I was buying baseball cards.  Again, as mentioned before it was bascially Topps, Donruss,Fleer and Score ( remeber Score ? )

I was bascially collecting sets and also team sets of the Philadelphia Phillies and lots of various Mike Schmidt cards from over the years.

In 1989 - Upper Deck came out  - and that changed the landscape of card collecting.

I rem. buing an un-opened sealed factory set of 1989 Upper Deck cards.  I held on to that set until 1994/1995 when I traded the set for some Magic The Gathering Trading Card Game cards.  :)

I totally rem. in the early 90's - 92/93 Frank Thomas rookie cards were worth a ton of money..  The whole card scene collapsed on itself in 92/93 when cards just became over-saturated.

I finally traded all my baseball cards and some autographed balls / photos to a music collector from Philly.  I traded for an ultra -rare U2 ( the band ) 7" white vinyl record.  I've been a huge U2 collector for many years - I'm really glad I made that trade.

 

 

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Posted: 4/8/2012 1:35:20 AM
i knew it was going to get complicated when they started issuing coins as cards... still got a bunch of coin baseball cards... some nice ones too. does anyone have the coin baseball cards? mustve been expensive making them... and destroyed the companies?
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Posted: 4/8/2012 1:39:43 AM
i stopped collecting about 5 years ago. garbage got too expensive!

i hold in my possession a derek jeter score RC graded 9.5 from beckett, fat albert RC bowmans graded 9.5 and a brett lawrie RC.

i gave up on opening boxes and went straight to buying the cards i wanted about 7 years ago. you lose a ton of money from opening packs with useless cards. go on ebay and get the players you want and put them away for a rainy day.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 1:42:50 AM
I used to collect...mostly hockey and baseball. I stopped in '89 after the market got flooded. For hockey, collecting was easy - one O-Pee-Chee set a year...I look now and again, but I won't look at anything that 'glitters'...inserts went crazy, and that is when I stopped.

 Unless you have lots of money, you really have to 'specialize'....I decided to make mine a Gretzky collection...other than his rookie, I think his other 'regular' cards are still quite cheap...even graded ones. Ebay is a buyers market...that's for sure. 

I'd never wish anyone to lose their job, but I'd like some of these companies to fold and make collecting what it used to be. 
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