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#176
Posted: 10/11/2012 3:43:42 AM
Iv decided not to waste anymore time educating the misled sheep of this forum, Luckily and to my surprise, there are a-lot of you here that arent sheep, You question the system and you will not be misled.
to the rest of you that believe what you are told, Id feel sorry for you but your really not worth the waste of emotion since you are mere followers and you will live your pathetic lives in this manner, never take chances in life, and that will define you and the legacy you leave behind to your children and childrens children.

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Posted: 10/11/2012 3:45:28 AM
You mean like having the over of 40.5 for 500$ in the jets/texans games and getting fucked when a high power offense can't score at the 3 yard line and settles for a field goal or the Jets driving all the way with also a Tebow run to the 2 yard line and also settling for a field goal and only 3 points being scored in the 4th qt!!! Hmmmmm you guys tell me?!!!!
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#178
Posted: 10/11/2012 3:46:50 AM

Can't we all just state our opinions and move on?  Why is there such a need to banter like a bunch of babies on a forum? Just answer the questions, give your opinion and move on.  If someone calles you a name or says something bad about you, who the hell cares?  There is no need to retaliate and start a war of wits(or lack there of) on this forum. 

I am sick of people ruining good threads and discussions with their childish behaviour.  Come on people....GROW UP already..  If you are old enough to gamble than you should be old enough to know this already and quit acting like BABIES. 

That being said....thanks to all of you who posted your opinions about this subject. 

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Posted: 10/11/2012 3:51:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mafioso:

Iv decided not to waste anymore time educating the misled sheep of this forum, Luckily and to my surprise, there are a-lot of you here that arent sheep, You question the system and you will not be misled.
to the rest of you that believe what you are told, Id feel sorry for you but your really not worth the waste of emotion since you are mere followers and you will live your pathetic lives in this manner, never take chances in life, and that will define you and the legacy you leave behind to your children and childrens children.

 

Seems you are quite passionate about this...i respect that.  You have made a lot of great points and backed them up with good research.  There is no need to "educate anymore sheep"  not everyone is going to agree with your point of view.  Besides....the world needs wolves and sheep.

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Posted: 10/11/2012 4:36:05 AM

Years ago when I was betting in NC my bookie knew I played Middles ( betting both sides ) especially basketball. I had outs in Ohio and NC.Mybook in NC called me at home to see how much I could bet for him on NC St. in Ohio. The line was NCSt -18 in Ohio he had NCSt -22.5.My partner in Ohio could bet up to 5,000 with 1 book and 500 with 2 other books per game. We bet 5,000 for him and 1000 for us on NCSt. -18. The game was tied at the half 25-25 NCSt pulled away in the last 5 minutes to win by 29. This was against Duquense with Jimmy V was coaching!!!!!!! THIS WAS AN ALUMNI SPECIAL!!!Game for the large donater's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1   

 

 

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Posted: 10/11/2012 9:06:44 AM
WTF is LCN thinking? They should be recruiting NFL players! Every one of the 5 NY families & most nationwide have been hurt by turncoats in their ranks, breaking the sacred vow of omerta. Who knew that the HGH taking, dog-fighting, early-onset alzheimer's having, oxy-addicted, meat puppets in the NFL are the only ones w/ enough moral fiber not to snitch and enough intelligence not to get caught! Even the CIA has leaks, but not the monolithic cabal of NFL fixers! LMFAO! 
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Posted: 10/11/2012 9:18:30 AM

And w/ all the disgruntled former players suing the NFL for medical bills, pensions, dangerous work conditions, etc. NOT ONE has blown the whistle on this omnipresent rigging of games, or even thought to blackmail Goodellw/ the "truth" to get what they want. It's a really uncanny streak of luck they're having, dontcha think?

Again, almost every1 concedes that SOME outcomes are OCCASIONLY influenced to some degree or another. From control-freak commisioners exerting undue influence to outright fixing. But unexpected outcomes DO happen. To think that an oblong ball didn't bounce as you predicted, or that the linesmakers are actually smarter than you is simply IMPOSSIBLE to accept. Hence, "The fix is in!!!!!" Waaaaah.

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Posted: 10/11/2012 9:23:15 AM
Too late, Stewie. The fix is in, and the noodles are boiling.
Boiling, I tell you!
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Posted: 10/11/2012 11:39:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

The NFL nor it's referees ever explained why this td did not count at the end of the game. It was a 10 yard lateral so it was super clear that it was a live ball and that fact was backed up the referees not blowing the whistle and allowing the td. The td did not change the outcome of the game but did cover the spread for steelers backers as the steelers were 4 point faves.

After the td the refs got together and for a mysterious reason no one knows, and one that was never given despite the public demanding one, the td was erased and never counted towards the final score as the refs hurried off the field. The public in the game was heavily on the side of the Steelers who because of this unexplained, nonsensical event failed to cover the betting spread.

It was a td 100%. There is zero argument to say it was not and therefore one was never even offered by the league or its officials. So I ask the people that say anyone who thinks games are tampered with are crazy, to please explain these events. I'm sorry but there is only one sensible conclusion here in my opinion. If there was another sensible one, then surely the league would have offered it. All they ever said was oops! I do not want to hear they blew the call, they know the rules, it was as very basic play and everyone including them knew it was a clear td.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVtlJgt_8FY

  The spread covering touchdown that magically never happened, after it actually did happen. 

 

Tell it brother !! I remember this game like it was yesterday.The refs got together for 10 minutes discussing a meaningless play that had no affect on the outcome (just the spread) and somehow got it wrong.I think the Steelers had 12 penalties to the Chargers 3 also.This was the game that opened my eyes and made realize that some games arent on the up and up

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Posted: 10/11/2012 11:59:12 AM

I wouldn’t say NFL/CFB games are fixed, however there is NO doubt in my mind gamblers get to key members of a roster that can affect the outcome of a game (i.e. QB’s, Kickers).  I have watched intently over the years and obviously it’s always the team that’s favored.  I have compiled a list of individuals that are the most egregious violators of the public's trust below for your viewing pleasure.  They are as follows: 

 

1.  Joe Flacco

2.  Michael Vick (last two seasons)

3.  Tom Brady (never lay double digit chalk with Tommy Terrific)

4.  Payton Manning (his last three seasons with the Colts)

5.  Stephen Garcia (I’m still trying to figure what caused him to fumble the ball late 4th

     quarter when the Gamecocks had Cam Newton beat at Auburn)

6.  Kevin Kolb

7.  Matt Shaub (*Note:  Monday night game against the Jets was the first time I saw that

     type of behavior out of him)

8.  Tino Sunseri

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Posted: 10/11/2012 12:11:03 PM
In days gone by the television networks would flock to where sporting events were being contested.  In more recent times the sporting events are being staged when the television networks want them to be staged.  I firmly believe that money has a major influence over results of sporting events.  I believe that a television sponsor who pays a large sum of money to air a commercial late in a televised contest wants consumers to still be tuned in.  Blow out equals people not tuned in.  The National Fixed League will do many things to avoid that situation to keep the networks happy.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 12:21:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by c_had38:

And w/ all the disgruntled former players suing the NFL for medical bills, pensions, dangerous work conditions, etc. NOT ONE has blown the whistle on this omnipresent rigging of games, or even thought to blackmail Goodellw/ the "truth" to get what they want. It's a really uncanny streak of luck they're having, dontcha think?

Again, almost every1 concedes that SOME outcomes are OCCASIONLY influenced to some degree or another. From control-freak commisioners exerting undue influence to outright fixing. But unexpected outcomes DO happen. To think that an oblong ball didn't bounce as you predicted, or that the linesmakers are actually smarter than you is simply IMPOSSIBLE to accept. Hence, "The fix is in!!!!!" Waaaaah.

 

Linesmakers are smarter than us.   

Proof:  Who's got the nice houses, big bank accounts and nice casinos.   There's your answer.

 

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Posted: 10/11/2012 12:24:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by holtnt:

I wouldn’t say NFL/CFB games are fixed, however there is NO doubt in my mind gamblers get to key members of a roster that can affect the outcome of a game (i.e. QB’s, Kickers).  I have watched intently over the years and obviously it’s always the team that’s favored.  I have compiled a list of individuals that are the most egregious violators of the public's trust below for your viewing pleasure.  They are as follows: 

 

1.  Joe Flacco

2.  Michael Vick (last two seasons)

3.  Tom Brady (never lay double digit chalk with Tommy Terrific)

4.  Payton Manning (his last three seasons with the Colts)

5.  Stephen Garcia (I’m still trying to figure what caused him to fumble the ball late 4th

     quarter when the Gamecocks had Cam Newton beat at Auburn)

6.  Kevin Kolb

7.  Matt Shaub (*Note:  Monday night game against the Jets was the first time I saw that

     type of behavior out of him)

8.  Tino Sunseri

 

You forgot Moniz from Hawaii.  

 

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Posted: 10/11/2012 1:10:16 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

 

You forgot Moniz from Hawaii.  

 




Tjohnsont,

 

 

The only time I can remember Bryant Moniz looking suspicious was that game when they went into Colorado 3 – 0 or 4 – 0 and were heavily favored against a pathetic Buffaloes squad.  If I remember correctly they went up three touchdowns (covering the chalk) in the first half and didn’t do squat in the second half ultimately losing that game.  I loss money there, but I chalked that one up to a third trip east for them and the altitude.  Now I did hear some rumblings from my people about Moniz shaving points when they were heavily favored at UNLV that same year, but that was the year UNLV had that talented African American under center and he was just on fire against a very mediocre Warrior defense. 

 

With that said, I did omit another CROOK from my initial list and that would be Aaron Rodgers...  


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Posted: 10/16/2012 10:15:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Dinitalian:

You mean like having the over of 40.5 for 500$ in the jets/texans games and getting fucked when a high power offense can't score at the 3 yard line and settles for a field goal or the Jets driving all the way with also a Tebow run to the 2 yard line and also settling for a field goal and only 3 points being scored in the 4th qt!!! Hmmmmm you guys tell me?!!!!


thats not called fixed, thats called being on the wrong side and being bitter
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Posted: 10/16/2012 10:19:18 AM
heres the easiest way to make money gambling, when i was younger i booked bets for never more then 10 guys...they were all 50-100 dollar bettors..in the beginning they had some money to pay when they lost but quickly racked up tabs to high and then went on payment plans, i let them continue betting and would wait until they all picked one team (thats now an obvious sucker bet which is set by VEGAS for a reason) it looks so easy the public cant resist and i would hammer the other side with my bookie...using this strategy will hit at a way higher clip then any other system there is, i wouldnt even collect the money from the guys i just let them run tabs and eventually lost contact with them, but there money didnt matter, so get a bunch of your local degen. friends, book there action and get wealthy off sports betting..true story
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Posted: 10/16/2012 11:16:38 AM
On Monday night’s game between the San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos, Deputy Dawg was at it again. Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was called for two false starts in the first half — once for barely moving his hands pre-snap in a shotgun formation, and once for moving his head under center pre-snap. Atlanta Falcons President and NFL Competition Committee Chairman Rich McKay recently said that pre-snap quarterback movement would be a greater point of emphasis this season, but anyone would have to agree that this was a bit much.
Referred to as the “Peyton Manning Rule,” it’s a recently spotlighted potential penalty against quarterbacks who try to draw defenders offside with movements instead of hard counts. But Triplette, as is his wont, took things too far. Perhaps he was confused by the presence of Manning in this game, and figured — what the heck!
“I’ve never seen that called twice in a game in my life,” ESPN’s Jon Gruden said. “I’d be interested to see what Jeff Triplette is seeing here.”
“I know the emphasis is on the hands, but the [hand movement] has got to be more exaggerated than what we saw, in my opinion,” said Gerry Austin, ESPN’s roving officiating expert and a former Super Bowl referee himself. “And also, I didn’t think the head bob was sufficient. I think [the defenders] are jumping on the hard count.”
Rivers has long been a master of the hard count; his ability to draw defenders offside is an important color in his palette. It’s interesting to note that before tonight’s game, Rivers had no false start penalties in 2012 … or, in 2011, 2010, 2009, and on and on. In fact, these are the first false start penalties of Rivers’ career, and he’s been in the league since 2004. So, there’s no actual precedent, and no specific rule interpretation — point of emphasis or not — that would lead a reasonable and qualified official to throw those flags.
“This wasn’t a rule change, this was a point of emphasis this year,” McKay said in September .


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Posted: 10/16/2012 11:53:00 AM
NFL is fixed, Peyton Manning grows up in New Orleans gives super bowl to Drew Brees and the Saints. Look at the totals in playoffs last 7 years. Lay them out by time played, You should see a perfect market profile between favorites and dogs winning and over and unders hitting. You think oddsmakers are that good at pedictings odds ya right. Its coaches and players playing to them. Why do you think Cutler sat out 2nd half of NFC championship game vs the Packers.  Brett Favre throws right to Packers safety in Championship game, He had five guys open or could of ran it.  I could give millions of examples however I'm done with the NFL. WWF wrestling has more exitcing storylines. This league is a Joke
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Posted: 10/16/2012 12:04:26 PM

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Posted: 10/16/2012 12:43:10 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cardifkill:

On Monday night’s game between the San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos, Deputy Dawg was at it again. Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was called for two false starts in the first half — once for barely moving his hands pre-snap in a shotgun formation, and once for moving his head under center pre-snap. Atlanta Falcons President and NFL Competition Committee Chairman Rich McKay recently said that pre-snap quarterback movement would be a greater point of emphasis this season, but anyone would have to agree that this was a bit much.

Referred to as the “Peyton Manning Rule,” it’s a recently spotlighted potential penalty against quarterbacks who try to draw defenders offside with movements instead of hard counts. But Triplette, as is his wont, took things too far. Perhaps he was confused by the presence of Manning in this game, and figured — what the heck!
“I’ve never seen that called twice in a game in my life,” ESPN’s Jon Gruden said. “I’d be interested to see what Jeff Triplette is seeing here.”
“I know the emphasis is on the hands, but the [hand movement] has got to be more exaggerated than what we saw, in my opinion,” said Gerry Austin, ESPN’s roving officiating expert and a former Super Bowl referee himself. “And also, I didn’t think the head bob was sufficient. I think [the defenders] are jumping on the hard count.”

Rivers has long been a master of the hard count; his ability to draw defenders offside is an important color in his palette. It’s interesting to note that before tonight’s game, Rivers had no false start penalties in 2012 … or, in 2011, 2010, 2009, and on and on. In fact, these are the first false start penalties of Rivers’ career, and he’s been in the league since 2004. So, there’s no actual precedent, and no specific rule interpretation — point of emphasis or not — that would lead a reasonable and qualified official to throw those flags.

“This wasn’t a rule change, this was a point of emphasis this year,” McKay said in September .


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Any thoughts on the Peyton Manning Rule? Have you ever heard of it? Get ready, because this call is going to be made on a regular basis.
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Posted: 10/17/2012 4:26:49 PM
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Instances of fixes in this thread...

I can only laugh at the sheep who think these games aren't fixed... Keep betting those heavily public bet games and let me know how that goes for you.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 12:01:30 AM
In that fixed Pittsburgh/San Diego game, San Diego only had 2 penalties for 5 yards, meanwhile Pittsburgh had 13 penalties for 115 yards!

2 touchdowns nullified as well
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Posted: 10/18/2012 1:04:24 AM
not fixed by the league, but their are shady people EVERYWHERE.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 1:19:32 AM
Where there is money,there is greed


Arnold Rothstien 1919 World Series and it goes back even further tha that gentlemen. Athletes are just like use normal "Joe's" they use drugs,they drink and sometimes these players even gamble.

But not all games are "fixed". I am however absolutely convinced certain games are.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 2:05:06 AM
The NFL is like the WWF, everything is scripted and it will always sell, because the script is action packed through out the year. Vince McMahon and his associates create a script, just as the owners association does in the NFL. Players do not need to be a part of this fix, referees may contribute in some games but only when necessary but I believe the true fixing begins in the coaches press box. If both offense and defense coordinators know their opponents play calls, they have the ability to control the entire game as needed. Meanwhile the players give it all they got and truly believe the outcome of these games is placed on their athletic talent. When the truth of the matter is, they are all part of a script with inevitable outcome. Controlling a game from the press box in the NFL would be as easy as 2 kids controlling a scripted video game of madden
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