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Posted: 6/11/2012 10:23:31 PM
jwheels you obviously have a lot of hate for Georgia, but to say their defensive coordinator is not good and that they have had the same team for 6 years is beyond idiotic, and it proves that you dont know what you are talking about.  Georgia lost the game against MSU because they couldnt run the ball and Murray turned the ball over.  That will be different this year, for they have the #1 and the #13 running back in the country coming in, and they will push Crowell.  As for the defense, they will be one of the top units in the country.  We will see soon enough.
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Posted: 6/11/2012 10:27:52 PM
Georgia was #3 in total defense last season, behind Alabama and LSU.  They lost 1 player from that unit.  Do the math.  They will be very good.
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Posted: 6/12/2012 11:42:40 AM
Nugget released it at UGA -3.. believe it's up to -4 now
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Posted: 6/12/2012 11:45:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by travwp76:

Georgia was #3 in total defense last season, behind Alabama and LSU.  They lost 1 player from that unit.  Do the math.  They will be very good.


They also didn't beat a ranked team all season and the four ranked team it did play (Boise, South Carolina, LSU, MSU), UGA gave up 35, 45, 42 and 33 points..

 

But yes, I'm sure the D will be great
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:28:12 PM
Georgia 4 pt rd favorite hostile unfamiliar surroundings west of the Mississippi mobile qb. Take the points
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Posted: 6/13/2012 12:00:47 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by travwp76:

jwheels you obviously have a lot of hate for Georgia, but to say their defensive coordinator is not good and that they have had the same team for 6 years is beyond idiotic, and it proves that you dont know what you are talking about.  Georgia lost the game against MSU because they couldnt run the ball and Murray turned the ball over.  That will be different this year, for they have the #1 and the #13 running back in the country coming in, and they will push Crowell.  As for the defense, they will be one of the top units in the country.  We will see soon enough.

Apparently you aren't watching the same team, Richt has been the same person and fielded the same underachieving team for years now. They feasted on AWFUL teams all year and when they played teams anywhere within the top 100 they got eaten alive. The same will happen this year. Their top 10 defense was all a wash, LSU ran it right down their throats in the 2nd half of the SEC Championship. 
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Posted: 6/13/2012 12:18:37 AM
I agree that Georgia has underachieved in the last few years, and I was calling for Richts head 2 years ago. I am not a UGA homer, but info think that they should put a good team on the field this year. They are not on the level with Alabama or LSU, but they have a chance to make a move this year. They have not done well in the last few years against ranked teams , and that is the biggest measuring stick. But I think that if they can run the ball, and that's a big if, then they will make the jump to the next level. It's time for them to do something with all of this talent they have.
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Posted: 6/13/2012 2:07:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by travwp76:

I agree that Georgia has underachieved in the last few years, and I was calling for Richts head 2 years ago. I am not a UGA homer, but info think that they should put a good team on the field this year. They are not on the level with Alabama or LSU, but they have a chance to make a move this year. They have not done well in the last few years against ranked teams , and that is the biggest measuring stick. But I think that if they can run the ball, and that's a big if, then they will make the jump to the next level. It's time for them to do something with all of this talent they have.

They will be fine again this year because of their schedule but I will say what I have been saying for about 5 years now. They will not jump to the next level with Richt there, they had their chance in 07 and especially 08 but they just didn't do it and UF and Bama both teed off on them that year. UGA lacks the small things and discipline to be great and that all falls on Richt and I have seen much of the same since 02, he beats their Rival UF on average once every 5-6 years and I don't see even that changing for the long term while he is there. They went 1-1 the last two years against the Gators worst two teams since the 80's. They were very very fortunate to win last year and UF will only improve. Tennessee has had this same problem in the east for over 7 years now.
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Posted: 6/13/2012 2:35:45 AM

Those of you who have been around Covers for a while probably know I posted extensively about Georgia and their talent last preseason.  I also predicted and bet they would beat Boise and win the SEC East.

Georgia is loaded with talent.  There really isn't any denying that.  The main reason I liked them so much last season was because I thought they would be much improved on defense.  I thought that for two reasons.  First I thought they had picked up the pieces they were missing to effectively run Grantham's 3-4 defense in the offseason (most notably a nose tackle), and secondly because I have a lot of respect for their defensive coordinator Todd Grantham.  With pretty much everyone coming back from last season's defense, I can't help but be bullish on their defense again this season.  Yes, Georgia surrendered a lot of points to the good teams they played, but I think some of those numbers are a bit misleading.

Boise was obviously a very good team with an outstanding QB, and Moore did crave them up pretty good.  No question about that.  But Georgia did plug in a lot of new pieces on the defensive side of the ball at the start of last season, so I think a lot of their lack of cohesion in that game was attributable to them being somewhat green.  I think if those two teams had played later in the season, Georgia's defense would acquitted themselves very well.

I'm lazy and don't feel like looking it up, but as I recall South Carolina had something like three non-offensive touchdowns in last season's game.  I actually think Georgia's defense played pretty well.

I laid the 14 points (don't remember the exact number) with LSU in the SEC Championship game.  My write-up on the game turned out to be pretty much right on.  I said that I thought Georgia's defense would match up pretty well with LSU's offense, and thought they would play pretty well.  I said I liked LSU however, because I did not think Georgia had the depth to hang with LSU for 4 quarters.  Well, that's exactly how the game played out.  I don't think LSU hardly had a first down in the first half, but shredded a very tired Dawg defense in the second half.

Cousins did torched Georgia through the air in the bowl game, but  the offensive numbers were a little inflated becasue the game went 3 OTs.  That said, the loss of that game rests squarely on Mark Richt's shoulders.  Georgia basically had that game wrapped up in overtime until that putz Richt decided to play for a game-winning 50 yard field goal instead of trying to improve field position.  If I was Georgia's AD, I would have fired Richt beofre he made it to the locker room for that stunt.  That was just inexcusable.

Which brings me to why I never have much confidence in Georgia, and why I rarely bet on them . . . Mark Richt.  With all of the talent that the state of Georgia produces, if they had a competent coach, they would be what Alabama is today, which is to say they would be competing for national titles pretty much every year.  But instead, they continue to wallow in mediocrity under Richt.

With respect to Missouri, I think Gary Pinkel is one of the most underrated coaches in the country, and Missouri is usually very tough at home.  Furthermore, Missouri through the years have been SEC killers.  I see Missouri as being Georgia's Boise this season, except they won't have the benefit of playing the game in the Georgia Dome.  If I can get better than a field goal with Missouri, I think I'll fade Richt and play on the home pup.

 

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Posted: 6/13/2012 7:00:41 AM
if georgia gonna finish in the top 5 or 6 like touted they have to win at mizzou, cause they have much harder games than that if they lose at mizzou maybe richt should be fired cause if heloses this game i have a feeling their season slips and they lose 4 or 5 games and that would be pathetic for the talent on this team, on paper bulldogs should wiwn by double digits at mizzou, but richt is not a very good coach
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Posted: 6/13/2012 11:22:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by pj702:

if georgia gonna finish in the top 5 or 6 like touted they have to win at mizzou, cause they have much harder games than that if they lose at mizzou maybe richt should be fired cause if heloses this game i have a feeling their season slips and they lose 4 or 5 games and that would be pathetic for the talent on this team, on paper bulldogs should wiwn by double digits at mizzou, but richt is not a very good coach

It would be more pathetic to lose that many games with the schedule they are playing.
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Posted: 6/13/2012 11:44:08 AM

I think Missouri will fade as the season progresses because I don't think they are built to endure the weekly poundings of the SEC.  The Georgia game will be their first SEC game of the season, and their first SEC home game of the season.  You can bet they will be very anxious to show the world they belong in, and can compete in the SEC.  If this game were being played later in the season, I would feel differently about it.

For example, Missouri plays @ Tennessee and @ Florida late in the season.  I will definitely be looking to fade them in those games.

Alabama will be Missouri's 4th SEC game of the season.  We'll have to see what kind of shape they are in going into that game.  Regardless, we all know they'll be up for that game big time.  But after they endure the physical punishment of playing Alabama, I think they'll be fade material pretty much the rest of the season.

 

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Posted: 6/13/2012 2:44:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

I think Missouri will fade as the season progresses because I don't think they are built to endure the weekly poundings of the SEC.  The Georgia game will be their first SEC game of the season, and their first SEC home game of the season.  You can bet they will be very anxious to show the world they belong in, and can compete in the SEC.  If this game were being played later in the season, I would feel differently about it.

For example, Missouri plays @ Tennessee and @ Florida late in the season.  I will definitely be looking to fade them in those games.

Alabama will be Missouri's 4th SEC game of the season.  We'll have to see what kind of shape they are in going into that game.  Regardless, we all know they'll be up for that game big time.  But after they endure the physical punishment of playing Alabama, I think they'll be fade material pretty much the rest of the season.

 



That road game at Tenn is gonna be an eye opener for my Tigers. I really dont think they can win that game, and I havent seen either team take a snap yet.....Its the week after the road game @ the Swamp.....

Vandy and Kentucky will also be tough games....both are @ home, but they preceed Bama and UF.....

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Posted: 6/14/2012 12:08:29 PM
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That road game at Tenn is gonna be an eye opener for my Tigers. I really dont think they can win that game, and I havent seen either team take a snap yet.....Its the week after the road game @ the Swamp.....

Vandy and Kentucky will also be tough games....both are @ home, but they preceed Bama and UF.....

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They get a much needed off-week after they play Alabama and before they play Kentucky, so I think they'll be fine for that game.  From there on out I think it will be tough for them.

 

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Posted: 8/1/2012 6:43:05 PM
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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:19:54 PM

I dont remember Georgia starting off too hot last season!!

Maybe they learned from that???

Saturday 09/10/11 South Carolina L 42-45 Week 2 L 2.5 O 51.5
Saturday 09/03/11 vs Boise State L 21-35 Week 1 L 3 O 51.5

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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:23:48 PM

That said UGA Will definately be Favored!!Just like they were favored against Boise and South Carolina, Will UGA win??

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Mizzou  23

UGA  31 (-5)

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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:30:46 PM

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UGA schedule isn't that bad....yeah strange rotation with SEC west (don't think they control that actually) lucky not playing LSU or Bama since 09 in reg season and getting Auburn each year...who wasn't that bad in '11apparently...plus Miss St/Ole Miss so yeah as far as SEC west about as good as it gets...overall though still play 6 bowl teams...plus AL or LSU if make champ....my god Florida St opens back to back with Sav St and Murray St...not to mention just about anybody not in the SEC...other than Oregon and still pretty solid Stanford and could be tough road at Utah no one that special

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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:34:19 PM
Auburn not that bad in '10 I meant...they were pretty bad last year
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:19:50 PM
train thinks i'm nuts for my mizzou prediction
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:41:53 PM

Mizzou can be an absolute girl to beat at home.  Franklin is dynamic, but Murray should slice and dice that Mizzou secondary.

My guess is Georgia -2, if the action pushes to a PK, then it is the Bulldogs for me.

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Posted: 8/2/2012 12:00:06 AM
Franklin is coming off shoulder surgery and hasnt really faired well vs solid defenses. The UGA secondary may be suspect in this game due to suspension and what not, but I dont think Mizzou can exploit them due to Franklins inaccuracy and lack of depth at wr. Murray should have a field day. May just leave this game alone if it stays around a fg. One of those games MU could easily win su or lose by 30. Thats why I love college football.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 10:00:05 AM

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I'm a proud MU grad and whoever said it in this thread that Pinkel is very underated is correct! all that said here are the facts!

WE don't do well at all vs Big DLines and UGA has the overall # 5 Mel Kiper Pick coming off the end, as much as i don't want to say it i think this kid and UGA's D will be the difference. i think i read about a week ago UGA re-instated their stud DB for this game and slapped him on the wrist by moving the suspension to UGA's Buffaloe game. MU can be a tough place to play so anything can happen IF UGA comes in unprepared, i HOPE i'm wrong but i think UGA will win this by a td or more

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