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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:45:06 PM
I will take Nash for that deal anytime! Howsen holds on to Nash that long and only gets 3 yound players who to me not one of them are stars in the NHL now or the future. Nash you know what your getting and in New york with that line up Nash will score 50 plus the next 7 years so take your young players and that terrible franchise in Columbus watch them in the basement year after year until Howsen goes and New York will win a cup they are the team to beat in the East now unless Weber lands in Philly than what a battle that will be all year!
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:49:19 PM
oh i forgot to mention Nash is a 40 goal scorer on a terrible team so how many does he score on a great team like the Rangers. Surely he scores more than 40 i would bet. He will be on a mission to make the playoffs and taste playoff hockey. He is Canadian he plays for Lord Stanley he will want a cup in New York watch him focused and ready to play in the Ranger uni! 
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:49:41 PM
Although I do believe the jackets got ripped off, I feel like it has more potential to be an overpayment... Who says Rick Nash won't have a terrible season? He probably will get a good chance to prove his max potential playing in the Big Apple, but If he ends up having just ONE bad season, the fans could turn on him and it would be chaotic for NYR management. 

IMO, Rangers made a great deal, but I am just saying maybe Howsen isn't as big an idiot as everyone is making him out to be. In the end, it could pay off. 

Maybe im making a good point... 

or maybe im just pissed that the Leafs didn't get him... haha either way, I can't wait for hockey to start up again.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:56:36 PM

Nice to see the buds grab Nash but Howsen didnt even give Burke a shot he wanted way to much yet settles for this deal makes no sense to me. The 3 guys he dealt for Nash make the same money as Nash together so Columbus still has to pay that 7.8 million just a shorter time 3 years where as nash is 7 years just cant understand why now and not get more prospects than Dubinsky one good year and way over paid.

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Posted: 7/23/2012 7:48:14 PM
Both rick nash and steve nash can kiss my white Canadian A$$!  Wouldn't surprise me if he becomes an even bigger star, but hoping he fails miserably. 
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:31:39 PM
Great team like the Rangers...????.. When did the Rangers become a "great team".....    Same story every year... Lundqvist never gets past the playoffs and into the finals......  I guess now that he has Nash the Super Star, he can't miss......  
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:34:32 PM
By the way... Do the flames have 4 guys on the team they could trade for Nash,,,???.?.?.  I would take Nash too if I were a Flames fan.... 
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Posted: 7/23/2012 9:17:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by faceoff:

By the way... Do the flames have 4 guys on the team they could trade for Nash,,,???.?.?.  I would take Nash too if I were a Flames fan.... 

He did not want to go to Canada  
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Posted: 7/24/2012 2:53:23 AM
Howson did what he could, with a no trade clause Nash had all the leverage, who know what the Canes and Sens offered.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 2:57:22 AM
Gonna be a fun NHL season come October...
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Posted: 7/24/2012 6:47:25 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by faceoff:

Great team like the Rangers...????.. When did the Rangers become a "great team".....    Same story every year... Lundqvist never gets past the playoffs and into the finals......  I guess now that he has Nash the Super Star, he can't miss......  

I'm far from a Rangers fan, but I don't know how you can blame their lack of a cup run on Henrik.  

First of all I'd say 6 games in the ECF is pretty damn good.  Maybe not "great," but they're one of the 5 best teams in hockey without Nash. Finishing the top seed in the conference is no easy task, so I'm not sure why you're so down on this team.  It's not like they were going to come out of nowhere and win the cup last year anyway. I don't think many people expected a cup run from them last year, even heading into the playoffs.........this year should be a different story.. 

I don't know what your problem is with Nash, but he's one of the most underrated players in the game.  The guy has one of the best skill sets around and year after year has had no one to play with. Pretty impossible to do much when you are the only guy the other team focuses on night after night, yet he still managed to put up the numbers.  The guy is a star, and in any other market I have no doubt will prove that.  Him getting out of Columbus is pretty much on par with Adrian Gonzalez getting out of San Diego last year.  I'll pretty much guarantee Nash is a top 5 Hart candidate. 

Lastly, I'm still not sure how you can blame Henrik for their playoff futility, especially this past year. Without him there's no way they get past Ottawa or Washington.  The Capitals shut them down offensively for the better part of 7 games.  There were multiple times Washington was an incredible Lundqvist save away from taking a stranglehold on the series.  
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Posted: 7/24/2012 8:37:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jrock88:


I'm far from a Rangers fan, but I don't know how you can blame their lack of a cup run on Henrik.  

First of all I'd say 6 games in the ECF is pretty damn good.  Maybe not "great," but they're one of the 5 best teams in hockey without Nash. Finishing the top seed in the conference is no easy task, so I'm not sure why you're so down on this team.  It's not like they were going to come out of nowhere and win the cup last year anyway. I don't think many people expected a cup run from them last year, even heading into the playoffs.........this year should be a different story.. 

I don't know what your problem is with Nash, but he's one of the most underrated players in the game.  The guy has one of the best skill sets around and year after year has had no one to play with. Pretty impossible to do much when you are the only guy the other team focuses on night after night, yet he still managed to put up the numbers.  The guy is a star, and in any other market I have no doubt will prove that.  Him getting out of Columbus is pretty much on par with Adrian Gonzalez getting out of San Diego last year.  I'll pretty much guarantee Nash is a top 5 Hart candidate. 

Lastly, I'm still not sure how you can blame Henrik for their playoff futility, especially this past year. Without him there's no way they get past Ottawa or Washington.  The Capitals shut them down offensively for the better part of 7 games.  There were multiple times Washington was an incredible Lundqvist save away from taking a stranglehold on the series.  


Couldnt have said it any better, Henrik carried them as long as he could, they didnt have any scoring.  You cant win every game in the playoffs 1-0. 
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Posted: 7/24/2012 10:28:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thornton6:

oh i forgot to mention Nash is a 40 goal scorer on a terrible team so how many does he score on a great team like the Rangers. Surely he scores more than 40 i would bet. He will be on a mission to make the playoffs and taste playoff hockey. He is Canadian he plays for Lord Stanley he will want a cup in New York watch him focused and ready to play in the Ranger uni! 
All the goals he has scored have been more or less meaningless, he has never had to play in any meaningful games with pressure on him.  I am not saying he cant continue to score but a slow start in NY is a big difference to slow start in Columbus.  The media and most likely the fans will destroy him.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 11:00:02 AM
Guess it all remains to be seen if Nash is the ans. for the Rangers.........Del Zotto is a free agent after this season and the Rangers may not be able to hold on to him anyways.........  Would have been worse if Columbus got him in the deal and then loses him... 


Anisimov and Dubie are two very fast guys and both play center and wing capabilities.. They also show a great deal of heart out on the ice.......... Columbus will have 3 or 4 first round picks in next years draft now...".....


This was thought out more than many we realize I guess.....


Henrik is an elite goalie right now.. Didn't mean to put it all on him... I think in the long run, Nash is not the answer ... The "quick fix" never is... Unless of course it " Jonathan Quick.... "



   





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Posted: 7/24/2012 1:03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LanceLogan:

Howson did what he could, with a no trade clause Nash had all the leverage, who know what the Canes and Sens offered.

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howson wanted jeff skinner from carolina...that was enough to send jim rutherford out the door laughing...

columbus i believe is on the right track tho with the makings of a good young core group...but...with a softening fan base, declining season-ticket interest, and the giant shadow cast by ohio state sports, there's big-time pressure in that market to get better (and relevant) in a hurry...im not sure that can happen, and im not certain how an organization reeling so badly can possibly survive yet another 3-5 yr rebuild that doesn't include any guarantees...

meanwhile the coffers are leaking red ink, the core fans are restless, the bandwagon fans are skeptical and hangin onto their wallets, and now with nash gone there is no "face"  to promote...

they need a miracle (in addition to the one that'll be required for howson to last till christmas)...

 

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Posted: 7/24/2012 1:33:16 PM
MDZ will resign with the rangers they have more than enough money and cap room to make it happen.

They are still 13.25 million under I believe is the exact #
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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:30:12 PM
Don't know how you can blame either team for making this deal. Columbus had no choice.  OBVIOUSLY, the Rangers made the best offer (at least that is what Columbus thought) which is why they made the trade.  If the Rangers pretty much stole him, then why wasn't another team willing to sweeten their offer a bit?    Columbus was obviously talking to anyone who would listen.  


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Posted: 7/27/2012 10:20:38 PM

yea the demands for nash were way too high

would be really funny to hear first home game the fans chanting again

"WE DONT WANT YOU"

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