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Posted: 1/17/2012 11:35:39 AM

Yep,  LSU  got  whipped by a  better  team.  That  was LSU's known  weakness that  they  didnt  have a very  good  QB. Jordan Jefferson is plenty  athletic but not a drop back passer. LSU came  in with  a  game  plan that tried to play to  Jordan Jefferson's skill.  It  didnt  work. Bama beat  him to the edges and he  never was  able  to establish any  momentum over the Bama defense.   LSU  had no other plan.  It is  very  clear that Les Miles has  no confidence in Lee.   As typical to Les Miles style of  coaching a game,  they were still in the game for the  most part.   The  usual  defensive dominance by LSU didnt happen.   Credit very  good  play  from McCarron and great  game plan from Saban.

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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:08:25 PM

Lee would not have helped them.  Alabama knows if they bring Lee in the game it's to pass the ball, and with a 2 TD lead, they would just pin their ears back and come after him.  To borrow Brent Musberger adjective, it would have been a "mauling."

 

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Posted: 1/17/2012 12:19:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

Lee would not have helped them.  Alabama knows if they bring Lee in the game it's to pass the ball, and with a 2 TD lead, they would just pin their ears back and come after him.  To borrow Brent Musberger adjective, it would have been a "mauling."

 

 

great  points....  seems to me that  what  got  exposed was  two  things. .  .

1.  just  how  good Alabama defense is  and  how creative Saban

    was using  McCarron.

2. just how  limited LSU  offense and how non-creative Les Miles was  using  jordan jefferson

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Posted: 1/17/2012 5:20:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by archdriver:

 

great  points....  seems to me that  what  got  exposed was  two  things. .  .

1.  just  how  good Alabama defense is  and  how creative Saban

    was using  McCarron.

2. just how  limited LSU  offense and how non-creative Les Miles was  using  jordan jefferson

I realize that your veiw is probably the popular view, but I disagee to a certain extent.

I agree about how good Alabama's defense.  I've be talking about that since last January.

As far as McCarron is concerned, Alabama really didn't do much different in this game.  They threw a little more than usual on 1st down, but they've been throwing quite a bit on first down all season based on what defenses have shown them.

They added a little more motion for this game particularly with their TEs, but they pretty much ran the same plays.  There were a few new wrinkles like having Smelley running a wheel route out the backfield which didn't work.

The only other difference I noticed was that McCarron pushed the ball downfield a little more.  Of course that is something Alabama should have been doing all season, but weren't.  I complained bitterly about this all season.  It's not as if they don't have the QB to get that done.  McElwain essentially reduced a NFL caliber gunslingling QB into Captian Checkdown.

LSU tried to do what led them to a 13 & 0 recorrd to that point, which really about all they could do  Jordan Jefferson is what he is.  He's a one-dimensional QB that is not capable of beating good defenses with his arm.

Look at the Georgia game.  JJ set the forward passing game back 35 years.  In short, how creative can you be with a one-dimensional QB??? The answer is not very.

People want to beat Miles up for this loss, but I think he was in a no-win situtation.  He couldn't win this game with either of the QBs he had at his disposal.  Could he have done some things better?  Probably.  What it have made any difference in the outcome?  Highly unlikely IMO.

 

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Posted: 1/18/2012 3:28:07 AM
Damn Jimmy didn't you say what happened in the first game had nothing to do with second. Bama came out throwing on 16 of 18 on their first downs, saying that was a little more than usual is like saying Bamas offense completely dominated LSU defense. So slow your roll about how you saw this game playing out, I'm sure you had other big bowl game bets that didn't pan out the way you predicted just like everyone else. Bama dominated that game from start to finish and Lee playing may have made a difference or not, I don't think it would have but no one really knows. But if there would have been a third game what you and the rest of Bama fans somehow fail to comprehend when you say LSU would lose is the fact they have already beat them on their home field.
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Posted: 1/18/2012 10:17:13 AM

Tacobell -

Good point but if LSU wouldn't change their game plan then Alabama would beat up on them again. LSU just can't line up and outphysical that Bama team the way they did other opponents. For the coaches to not see that astounds me. They didn't even try to throw downfield or run any misdirection or "trick" plays. With such a physical, sound, fundamentally great football team like Bama you have to think "outside the box" so to speak when gameplanning for them. The first game between them could have just as easily been won by Alabama. I know Jimmy didn't see them throwing the ball so much but his writeup for the first game was spot on and it pertained to the second game as well. It was a great offensive game plan by Alabama to throw so much on first down. LSU looked totally surprised and unprepared for it. As much as it pains me you just have to give Bama credit and move on. I believe LSU will have the upper hand this year although that remains to be seen if Zettenberger will be any good. And LSU losing Gunner Kiel hurts big time.

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Posted: 1/18/2012 1:13:20 PM

The article is complete fiction. 

LSU looked just like it did in the first half of the SEC title game against Georgia.  Maybe they have trouble with red teams in domes.

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Posted: 1/18/2012 7:07:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MaineRoad:

The article is complete fiction. 

LSU looked just like it did in the first half of the SEC title game against Georgia.  Maybe they have trouble with red teams in domes.

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