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Author: [NFL Betting] Topic: How and WHY? Would VEGAS set the line at 3? NE Favorites.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:16:48 AM
The Patriots got -3 based on previous success and the REVENGE factor
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:29:45 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FrozenTundra:

talk about over thinking things.

Line imo is right:
1. tough to beat the same team twice in one season
2. revenge factor for ne for last sb
3. ne has the better record

I love the Giants chances, but NE is not a bad team and I actually thought the line would have come out as NE -4, but -3.5 makes sense, in between two key numbers 3 & 4 for the right team. If the books came out Giants -3, money would be flooding in on NE. Books want 50/50 action.
I find nothing funny about the line , and agree with you completely. Doesnt matter 2 me, Im already on the Ginats and under! BOL my friends!  
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Posted: 1/28/2012 11:10:01 AM
Not buying Eli man.  I watched the entire game last week and that dude was lucky.  I'm sick of everyone saying how great he played.  Bottom line, Eli didn't win that game, the niners lost it.  Eli threw at least 3 balls into double coverage that the niners dropped for int's.  Give me Brady and Belacheat all day vs. Eli and a guy that needs to be told by his Qb that the play clock is running down. 
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Posted: 1/28/2012 11:15:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by boss0033:

Not buying Eli man.  I watched the entire game last week and that dude was lucky.  I'm sick of everyone saying how great he played.  Bottom line, Eli didn't win that game, the niners lost it.  Eli threw at least 3 balls into double coverage that the niners dropped for int's.  Give me Brady and Belacheat all day vs. Eli and a guy that needs to be told by his Qb that the play clock is running down. 


I agree in the 2nd half Eli did not perform well,wasnt moving the ball and was 3 and out alot but when given the break and the short field he did put the ball in the end zone
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Posted: 1/28/2012 4:08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lancer89074:



Excellent post and thought provoking. I am sure that the books play some games with the numbers all the time.

Of course some moron will come on here and write that the number is made to generate equal action on both sides. In many cases, the book knows from which side the money will be pouring in on especially in high profile games like this one. They are not stupid.

I have looked at lines long enough to know that sometimes a book will take a stand on a number despite the wagering and will take their shot because they think they have the better of it. Gambling is their business and they might want the bigger piece of pie which you, Veronica, alluded to.

I smell a rat in this contest and am now thinking that the Patrots will cover. I do not think they are the better 'team' either.

good points . thanks !

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Posted: 2/6/2012 1:36:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by veronica27:

is no mind darn , favs - 3 are nothing special ..

why would you release the team -3 you really thought would win ... why not make the wrong team the fav out the gate to get the majority confused .. and get a lot of $ on the biggest name in sports , brady and coach b .. people that take the giants early will think they are sharp .. and they just might be . the game is obviosulely from a tracker standpoint ? a tossup , it coul go either way .. sooo ? just think of how much more $ would be bet on (the winning team the giants ) if they made the line giants -3 .. it would be an affirmation and mak epeople that already like the giants really feel a lot better about taking the giants .. glad i could help .

any real players goal (veagas is a player) is to confuse you . to get you to doubt what you think you already hav a great feeling about .. if this was not a part of the war .. what fun would it be . lol  

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oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the terror !!! just imagine how many people woul have been on the giants if they were released as a 2.5 - 3 pts fav >>>>>>>>> the pat backers would have been destroye thinking they had a gift getting 2.5 - 3 pts and all the real cappers would have cashed their giants -3 selections .. flip it flip it flip it . lmao

CONFIRMATION IN SHORT >>> if the giants were the small fav this would have confirmed what most already believed >> that the giants were going to be the winner in this game >> AND THEY WERE .     i will not leave out that the game could have gone either way .. but soo what . giants win !!!  another u-dog reins supreme in a championship game .  what is this ? this is same ole garbage man , thats all it is .  ty   ooh and if i knocked you out the last 2 times we squared off and they make you the favorite in game 3 ? ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh , yerah let me post that just so i can get a feel .

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Posted: 2/6/2012 1:38:17 PM
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Originally Posted by veronica27:

last time pats lost in the playoffs i wrote 1 simple word by their name >> overrated and it really is true ..  i like your take .

and yet again , i write down OVERRATED !!!! what year is this ? ooh yeah <>

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Posted: 2/6/2012 1:42:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by veronica27:

simple commin sense response looking at the facts ?

 

okay , try and read slow . if i knocked you out the last 2 times we squared off and we were aboutto fight again , you with me ? i know you not but i will try ... who would be favored if i beat you the last 2 times we squared off ? ahhhhhhhhhh dont burn no brain cells k .

forget that complex question of who would be .. WHO SHOULD BE FAVORED SINCE I KNOCKED YOU OUT THE LAST 2 TIMES WE SQUARED OFF ? OOOH you should still be favored because your name gets more media time and you are thought of and looked at as the man , but in reality i knocked the the darn out the last 2 times we met .... sorry to come across rude but get real , come out the dark . ty   and no i dont expect you to be able to answer , not you or any other fool . lol 

i will try again >>>if i knocked you out the last 2 times we squared off , should i be the u-dog in our 3rd time squaring off ? let's not forget it is a neutral playing field .. as the colts did not make the sb .. lmao 

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Posted: 9/21/2013 2:59:47 AM

...  I am going to bump this thread here multiple times each day for the next month so people can see the quality of this forum .. lmao  

hopefully some real people that really do wager on sports can see it .. this forum here ? it is all mememe pretty much .. the people that get talked about as knowing something ? man get he f outta here .. the mf that referred to me as Veronica ? wonder who that could be .. I just want people to really know what is up .. if there really is any high volume traffic in here for real .. if the pats had been good in last years sb ? they weren't mf <><><><><><><>    If there was only a real incentive for me to totally take over the mf I just might .

play <> what you give by telsa   ... quality is quality ..

. I don't need props ever like most of you seem too but (sad) .. just read this thread and look at the quality of what is being said .. who knew wtf they were talking about and who was a plant .. a mod .. no I know this is not twitter or facebook right .. like 85% of those mfers are really on top of it all .. inbetween classes and all and so fan oriented and prehistoric like... too much .. hopefully someone real can look at this simple 4 page thread and _______________  most of the stupid posting people on here don't even play the contest to show what they can do on any given day or night but talk shi# like they really know something on threads with no real substance .. I click on their names and they don't even play survivor .. because they are ______________ I am not exposing this site so much as I literally cant help but point out the obvious ..

you always read on here how the good cappers are chased off here by being harassed .. you would think at some point you guys in charge would clean up the bs and <><> MAKE THIS A HIGHLY INFORMATIVE NO BS  QUALITY SITE <><> .. A FOR REAL ONE SET APART , THE BEST <><><><><><><>     BUMP IT     1

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Posted: 9/21/2013 3:05:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by veronica27:

...  I am going to bump this thread here multiple times each day for the next month so people can see the quality of this forum .. lmao  

hopefully some real people that really do wager on sports can see it .. this forum here ? it is all mememe pretty much .. the people that get talked about as knowing something ? man get he f outta here .. the mf that referred to me as Veronica ? wonder who that could be .. I just want people to really know what is up .. if there really is any high volume traffic in here for real .. if the pats had been good in last years sb ? they weren't mf <><><><><><><>    If there was only a real incentive for me to totally take over the mf I just might .

play <> what you give by telsa   ... quality is quality ..

. I don't need props ever like most of you seem too but (sad) .. just read this thread and look at the quality of what is being said .. who knew wtf they were talking about and who was a plant .. a mod .. no I know this is not twitter or facebook right .. like 85% of those mfers are really on top of it all .. inbetween classes and all and so fan oriented and prehistoric like... too much .. hopefully someone real can look at this simple 4 page thread and _______________  most of the stupid posting people on here don't even play the contest to show what they can do on any given day or night but talk shi# like they really know something on threads with no real substance .. I click on their names and they don't even play survivor .. because they are ______________ I am not exposing this site so much as I literally cant help but point out the obvious ..

you always read on here how the good cappers are chased off here by being harassed .. you would think at some point you guys in charge would clean up the bs and <><> MAKE THIS A HIGHLY INFORMATIVE NO BS  QUALITY SITE <><> .. A FOR REAL ONE SET APART , THE BEST <><><><><><><>     BUMP IT     1



TRUE TRUE AND TRUE... Im sure alot of people already know this.. Yet there's many people that are still in denial.. Thinking the world would end and they would lose their bankrolls.. That's when you see people react.. That's when you see whom they really are.. 
ME ME MEs are everywhere its the human race.. Thats why people need to get educated when they meet the devils advocates... 
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Posted: 9/21/2013 3:08:09 AM
But in regards to the pats... I think they just threw out a generic number..Im off on this one.. 
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Posted: 9/21/2013 3:20:02 AM
Try winning a few bucks in vegas.. Look at how the staff react as if its their own money.. That's passed down from middle management and imo bad business.. Thinking if they switch dealers the person ends up losing it back.. When in reality the longer you sit at a table the lower  your win percentage is.. The job market in vegas is scarce.. The staff is so freaked out they will lose their jobs at any time... That's part of the culture in many places of the world... 
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Posted: 9/21/2013 3:37:12 AM

.. so you are comparing this forum at covers to a crooked market or to LV ? i'm talking about the mods in here that tryandget under people's skin as well as real people with big egos that think they know it all and want attention .. yet they don't even show what the cando by playing a simple contest like survivor .. so that right there shows they are not for real .. is there anyone in here for real ? I know sbr has real people that wager and are good peeps .. rx does .. but it is that the people think they already know it all and are actually intimidated by someone knowing more than them or being better than they are .. what does that have to do with the feedback you dropped ? is 80% mods posting inhere as their job right .. I know it is . someone has the nerve toinsult me on this thead with MALE CHAUVINIST COMMENTS AS WELL AS SIMPLY NASTY AND RUDE COMMENTS .. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO BAD IF IT WAS NOT AFTER I ACTUALLY DROPPED SCIENCE INA POST .. TRULY GOOD STUFF .. this site allows outright rude behavior to downplay someone but they don't want the word fuc# or _____________ this covers.com site wants you to buy the sports cappers picks they ad for that are affiliated with the site .. what is this site's true purpose , how do they make $$$ ???????????????????????????   I wont hold my brath waiting for any quality responses .. think EXPERIMENT .. I AINT MADE AT YA .

play <> shooting star by bad company then play running with the pack .. I am the player , the house and the forum .. I might get serious here comin up <><><><><><><>  

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Posted: 9/21/2013 3:51:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by veronica27:

.. so you are comparing this forum at covers to a crooked market or to LV ? i'm talking about the mods in here that tryandget under people's skin as well as real people with big egos that think they know it all and want attention .. yet they don't even show what the cando by playing a simple contest like survivor .. so that right there shows they are not for real .. is there anyone in here for real ? I know sbr has real people that wager and are good peeps .. rx does .. but it is that the people think they already know it all and are actually intimidated by someone knowing more than them or being better than they are .. what does that have to do with the feedback you dropped ? is 80% mods posting inhere as their job right .. I know it is . someone has the nerve toinsult me on this thead with MALE CHAUVINIST COMMENTS AS WELL AS SIMPLY NASTY AND RUDE COMMENTS .. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO BAD IF IT WAS NOT AFTER I ACTUALLY DROPPED SCIENCE INA POST .. TRULY GOOD STUFF .. this site allows outright rude behavior to downplay someone but they don't want the word fuc# or _____________ this covers.com site wants you to buy the sports cappers picks they ad for that are affiliated with the site .. what is this site's true purpose , how do they make $$$ ???????????????????????????   I wont hold my brath waiting for any quality responses .. think EXPERIMENT .. I AINT MADE AT YA .

play <> shooting star by bad company then play running with the pack .. I am the player , the house and the forum .. I might get serious here comin up <><><><><><><>  



Hey its a public place and privately owned.. We aren't exactly physically sitting inside a room where we really see each other.. There's no rules of how smart or stupid one should be to be in this forum.. I've seen abuse from moderators on many types of forums.. If i was the owner and one person that i DO NOT KNOW was hurting my business.. I MIGHT WANNA DO SOMETHING RIGHT? Now that's what makes business hard in this world.. You cannot please EVERYONE in this world.. SO BEFORE YOU MAKE COMMENTS LIKE THAT.. PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES.. USE YOUR IMAGINATION IF YOU HAVE TO.. IF YOU HAVE ONE.. IF I WAS A MODERATOR AND I ABUSED PEOPLE AND I GOT PAID FOR DOING SO.. HEY I SIGNED UP FOR IT IM NOT GOING TO CRY TO MOMMY.. I MAY OR MAYNOT BE MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT ITS WRONG.. THERE"S SUCH A THING AS A GREY AREA IN THIS WORLD.. THERE"S SUCH A THING AS COMPETITION YES EVEN AMONG CYBER WORLDS.. TO EACH THIER OWN.. DON"T LOSE SLEEP OVER THIS.. FOR ALL WE KNOW IM SOME STUPID girl.. AND YOU ARE A BOT.. 
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Posted: 9/21/2013 3:55:12 AM
You want FAIR? HAVE THEM SEND YOU PART OF THEIR CUT OF REVENUE WHEN YOU SEE THOSE ADDS THAT POP UP.. THOSE ADS SEEM TO KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE NOW ADAYS.. BECAUSE YOU AND I BOTH KNOW DAMN WELL WE PROVIDE THAT TRAFFIC SO THAT COMPANIES AND PROFIT OFF OF AD SPACE.. GO RANT ABOUT YOUTUBE IF YOU WANT AS WELL.. LOL
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Posted: 9/21/2013 11:30:40 AM

I never said I wanted fair and you are neither here nor there in all you are saying .. I bumped the thread for people to see the quality of this form by reading this thread , PERIOD <<<<<<<

IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF , THE THREAD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF .. IM NOT NEW TO THIS , YORU FEEDBACK INSINUATES I AM ..

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Posted: 9/21/2013 12:35:00 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by veronica27:

it is the media's job not to represent someone wagering on sports ..soooooooooooooooooooooo ? all the garbage / excuse me , all the talk you hear on tv is just that , it is just talk .

 SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS SOMETHING TO LOSE WILL HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TAKE THAN THE PEOPLE THEY PAY ON TV TO TALK ABOUT IT ... we can even go as far as to say on the radio too ...

perception man .. people that charge people for picks , most of them , well they are in their own little world . the way they see things .. do you really not get it ?

 if you bet on games with your own $$$ and watch them from start to finish no interruption day after day after day for years WHAT DO YOU THINK IS CREATED ? it sure is a whole different creature altogether than anyone you will ever hear talking on espn or any other show .. okay ?        

 now dont get me wrong , there is always exceptions to the rule .. some special ones , as far as paid touts and tv journalists .. we are talking almost about something that is truly amazing ... you can create your own world and only YOU know <<< ..

if you bring others in ? well , they would have too be dedicated solely to watching the games every day , no interruption , no bs , no laziness , no drugs , no alcohol ..

 people on tv ?  you can brainwash someone about anything .. you know ? santa clause , the tooth fairy ..  A HIGH QUALITY PROFESSIONAL SPORTS FORUM WITH THE RIGHT INTENTIONS ALL BEING GEARED TOWARDS WHAT IT SHOULD BE GEARED TOWARDS >>> THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WAGER ON SPORTS AND CLICK ON FORUMTO GET GOOD INFO IS WHAT COVERS.COM SHOULD BE PERIOD ..

 to try and twist it with a bunch of political jargon ooh do you really think life is fair ? you joking right ? cover.com should be what it is supposed to be .. this is not wallstreet or the basement of a hilton style casino .. no it is not like the corner either bro .. the people in charge on here ? they should clean it up and make it truly what it is supposed to be with no deception towards the players period <><><><><><><>   one day they will >>> I know this for sure .   what year ? ahh  _____________  you tell me .

this was post # 50 and what I typed was added feedback and thoughts above   .. keep learning , keep growing , start reading more ..

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