New Matchup looks

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nastyparis PM nastyparis
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Posted: 2/21/2012 1:08:13 PM
Hey guys,

I noticed the new look for the NHL matchups new look. Its much nicer layout. I have a couple of things I like from before would like see it back, like previous 10 games layout and bold who won the game between previous head to head games. Who should I contact to add these feature back?

Thanks
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Posted: 2/21/2012 1:39:37 PM
I will move this to the help section.  And I agree with you, with the nicer look and  previous 10 games layout and bold who won the game between previous head to head games.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 1:43:17 PM

Also when you click on the last 10 games link it takes you to the teams game played page for the whole year.

We need to fix that. That kills ya where it goes to a new page and away from the one you were looking at.

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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:10:16 PM
Hi Guys,

We will pass the suggestion onto the powers above and hopefully some improves can be made

CT
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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:11:12 PM
Hi Guys,

We will pass the suggestion onto the powers above and hopefully some improvements can be made.

CT
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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:25:47 PM

After going through it more, I do like the look better.  It really pops out at you, but too much information is hidden.  You have to click on way too many things to get the same info you used to have all visable on the same page.

I really like the extended odds analysis that is broken down by the different ML's.

While the extra info is great, I would rather have to scroll further dowh the page for the extra info rather then having one thing hide when opening another section.

It would of been nice to beta test this with some actual puck gamblers before rolling this out.

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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:50:04 PM
Not sure if everyone in the puck forum will post thier comments here, so here is a link of them for you to see
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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:59:13 PM

I like it, but feel it will take some getting used to. Having things in one place for so long and then it being moved is always an adjustment.

One thing I don't like is that you can only see Last 5 and next 3 without opening a new page. I liked the Last 10 and Next 5 format. As well as the #1 post stated with Bolding the winning teams.

Other than that no complaints.

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Posted: 2/21/2012 3:04:39 PM
SUCK and also since you screwed with the site, I have to go thru all kinds of monkey motion to get the cursor up to post in the message box.
 
what part of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" does Cover's tech NOT understand?
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Posted: 2/21/2012 3:39:57 PM
Not a big fan of the changes -- but this is probably just my initial reaction speaking.

Everything was within just one click without expanding a tab in the old layout; with this new layout, we have to expand via "In-depth" which creates confusion.

Goalie statistics/information is also much less accessible, even if only due to it being a separate tab now as well (it was readily readable and accessible in the old layout without having to click yet another tab).

One other major downfall is the inconsistency between the "main page" past 5 game statistics and the enclosed "past results" formatting of statistics; that is, the "more past results" page doesn't include valuable information such as PK and PP results in past games like the "past 5 games" boxes do. This is a MAJOR issue since some of us cap Game Totals with a heavy emphasis on special team performance.

Overall, the old layout was much more accessible with key information available without ANY scrolling/expanding (i.e., ATS records, trends, vs. situations, goalie statistics etc.), so even though the new layout is "prettier", it is much more cumbersome to navigate.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 4:00:10 PM
The old one was for sure better for capping!
xbaggypants PM xbaggypants
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Posted: 2/21/2012 4:12:13 PM
NOT a BIG FAN at all, The layout is a mess and it harder to read the information, SWITCH BACK TO THE OLD ONE!!! PLEASE!!!!!!
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Posted: 2/21/2012 5:15:30 PM
wow, this sucks!

why even bother changing it--this is definitely a big step backwards.

thx covers
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Posted: 2/21/2012 5:30:59 PM

This is the first day in 11 years of capping pucks here I did not use Covers.

 

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Posted: 2/21/2012 6:36:23 PM
I hate it.  Please change back or give us the option of the old one.  Previous format gave so much better information right condensed on the first page.  Now I constantly am clicking everywhere to find the same stuff.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 10:23:01 PM
Here is the old style of Covers stats for pucks that hasn't been F'd up.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 11:11:18 AM
The matchup pages are what sets Covers apart in this industry and I have to say overall it is a downgrade.

There's no reason for the title boxes with the "last 5" and "date" etc titles to be so big, they take away from the actual info. The old look in this regard was much, much more sharp and tight. The "statistical analysis" part is also a major downgrade. Again, it was much easier to read this before but now the columns just look like a mess of numbers. Before the shots for and against, PP, PK etc were all in a nice tight box that was easy to read. I don't think the "consensus analysis" needs to be that big either. It was much smaller in the old one, everyone could still read it and it didn't waste space. Finally the past results and remaining games MUST be changed back to 10 games and 5 games respectively.

There are some positives: The new oddstracker with the line history graph is good as is showing what network or TV channel the games will be played on.

Overall I think some of the titles and stuff should be shrunk and more info that was available on the old format should be brought back and be made available on the same page without have to click on links or dropdown boxes.

Just the .02 from someone who has used those pages extensively for 5 years. Hopefully some changes are made before this format is used for the other sports.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 11:19:45 AM
Andarmac said it better than I could so I'll just get straight to the point. This is friggin garbage. Please change back.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 1:57:17 PM

Liked the old one better.

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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:07:37 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Rival36:

I hate it.  Please change back or give us the option of the old one.  Previous format gave so much better information right condensed on the first page.  Now I constantly am clicking everywhere to find the same stuff.

I can find absolutely NOTHING that is an improvement over the old page. the new one has NO "Last 5" or home-away stats which was a key read for current team trends

I don't know WHO at Covers came up with this BUT they sure didn't think it out and like others have said, there is a LOT of "wasted space" on the new one. looks like it's more "sytle" than substance and useful information.

FAIL

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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:10:45 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Lippsman:

Here is the old style of Covers stats for pucks that hasn't been F'd up.

IF the old format is good enough for USAToday WHY is it NOT good enough for Covers itself?

nastyparis PM nastyparis
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Posted: 2/23/2012 3:36:58 PM
When can we see some of the changes we have suggested? It really helps to see (bold or different color indicator) who won previous head to head games. I also miss the last 10 games instead of 5 games, it's better information for capping. The Title can drop a font size or two, to reduce the scrolling.

Thanks!
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Posted: 2/23/2012 8:29:03 PM
The new look sucks, end of story !

Lippsman PM Lippsman
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Posted: 2/23/2012 11:07:21 PM

I believe our customers have spoken pretty loudly.

So is anything being done about this ?

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Posted: 2/24/2012 1:26:39 AM
these clowns won't do anything...

lipps..i'm not complaining so much about the actual design, but the actual data. I just find it ridiculous that they don't even have GOALIE stats properly updated (they're just using OVERALL stats, no H/A, L5 etc.), You would think the moron who programmed this would check something this basic before he shoved the new format up our collective behind. Usually good programmers/coders keep the end user in mind--don't think that was the case with these idiots!

I switched already to USA Today (thanks for the link)---didn't even know USA Today were using Covers as a source. Ironically, the USA Today stats are correct and up to date (I compared it to NHL.com).
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