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#126 Posted: 10/2/2012 11:59:05 PM
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#127 Posted: 10/3/2012 1:29:35 PM |
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#128 Posted: 10/3/2012 3:50:28 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by ShadowWarrior:
Post your picks and posters here will advise if you should leave or not. Personally I would not. If you have on line gaming then stay where you are, make a living in some career and save money while at home. Gambling can be a side hobby and you can always go to LV or Atlantic City for fun. I go to LV three to four times a year and quite enough for me. I get to gamble through local books on line and stay in paradise although lots of locals move to LV becauseof the high cost of living here. Will be there visiting in late Oct. to visit classmates and to see a neighbor who moved away. Got family that moved there also but not so close with them, cousins but hardly know them. Every trip I bump into people from here. Most say home is where you make it. LV gets hot and cold. Both climate and gambling.
Yeah I haven't decided anything yet, I guess I just want to go to LV really bad, maybe going 3-5 times a year would be enough to itch that scratch. As for betting I will only be able to gamble online in Delaware for about 4 months before graduate and go back to NJ. I hear they are trying to make online gambling legal in NJ soon so that would be great. I also bet through a local bookie cuz he pays me in cash every single week and there are no withdraw fees and I get 100% of my winnings. Also he has good lines for me.
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#129 Posted: 10/3/2012 8:03:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Qncyk1:
you have to open a 5dimes account.
i dont even want to tell you how much youve lost playing vegas lines. im with matchbook and pinnacle.
you cant do this on a dialy basis and bet vegas lines.
you just cant.
Have to disagree. Vegas lines are good, sometimes better than the online, you just have to shop around
Also, I know lots of people making a living, only betting at Vegas books |
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#130 Posted: 10/8/2012 5:11:56 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso:
If you are going to rent an apartment the cheapest you will find is maybe a studio for around 500 a month
so thats 6500 for the year including security deposit
You will have Bills
I will not have bills.
I will have "the Bills at + 7.5"  |
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#131 Posted: 10/9/2012 2:29:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mbialowas:
Have to disagree. Vegas lines are good, sometimes better than the online, you just have to shop around
Also, I know lots of people making a living, only betting at Vegas books
What time do LV books put up lines for NFL/NCAAFB ? Sunday night? or Monday morning? and do early lines have a smaller limits? |
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#132 Posted: 10/9/2012 5:40:14 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by vlps5122:
just stumbled upon this thread, hope you are doing well and succeeding newyorkslim. I have watched sports my whole life and have played poker since i was about 11 or 12. I havent played poker for money in about 2 years. I am now a senior in college and as a sophomore i played some cash games about 3-4 times a week against 25+ year olds and made some good money over course of the winter. Ive always wanted to get into sports betting and i finally just started with the start of the nfl season. I am up $600 so far with $50 bets (sometimes $100 bets) in 1 months time. My win rate is 60%. this dream you are living newyorkslim would be my dream as well. i am 8 months away from graduating with an accounting and finance degree and my parents are expecting me to become a cpa and sit in a cubicle all day being bored out of my mind. I have about $20k in my savings account, which my parents would probably be extremely dissapointed with me if i decided to try and make it in vegas and live this lifestyle. they have always dissaporved of me playing poker but they stopped nagging me over it when i usually came home with more money then i left the home with. man, i just dont feel like the 9-5 lifestyle is meant for me i feel different than most ppl in that regard. im going to keep betting through the nfl/ncaaf/nba/ncaab and also i go to school in delaware and online gambling will be legal come january so ill probly do some poker and maybe a little blackjack during my last semester before graduation. hey man i hope you make it out there and live a great life, i hope to join you come 1 year from now as a 22 yr old thats never been on his own doing something most ppl would consider crazy. good luck man.
Interesting post. It doesn't really matter, but your story is very similar to the path I followed....10 years ago. I graduated college with a degree in Business Finance at age 22.... I bet on college football regularly and enjoyed it...then had a big decision to make. I wanted to go to Vegas and set up shop betting college football and bartending...taking the proceeds and investing in the stock market and commodities markets. My parents wanted me to become involved in the family construction business, and they did not believe there was any future in betting for a living. So, I stayed local and went to work in the family business.
It is funny, because sportsbetting and stock/commodity trading is always looked at as being hugely risky... basically, a fools game.... and 10 years ago building residential houses for resale was looked upon as a no-risk proposition. Well, fast forward 10 years. The family business is now defunct, and the assets that we worked so hard to build have been hugely devalued. But the worst part is the time that was wasted doing something that was supposed to create a solid future, even though it made for a very unhappy present.
In closing, I am not intending to give anyone advice here. I am the last guy who's opinion is relevant on career path topics. What I will say is that absolutely NO ONE but you knows what is best for you. If you do not want to work in a cubicle from 9-5 5 days a week, then darn that. Your parents will understand...it may take awhile, but they will get used to the idea.
Good luck with your future, and your picks. 
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#133 Posted: 10/10/2012 6:38:59 AM
Hope nyslim is still okay.
vlps5122,
There is no better time than once you first graduate to take a huge risk like that. Make a deal with your parents that you'll give yourself a year and see what happens. If it doesn't work out, you can always get a job in Vegas and gamble in your free time. |
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#134 Posted: 10/10/2012 9:18:00 AM
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#135 Posted: 10/10/2012 5:47:58 PM
If you "need" to live in vegas to do this, you should rethink what it is you really want. |
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#136 Posted: 10/10/2012 6:21:18 PM
If you have 100k to start with, open a small retail business such as a tobacco/smoke shop with about 50k. The money will not be great but most of the time, a tobacco/smoke shop will turn a profit. Use the other 50k as your bankroll.
I personally own a liquor store and I wager for fun. I admit that I did not know about bankroll management in my early onset but the present is a gift and I am on my way to increasing my bankroll. My one unit plays are $25 and I now stick to it. I have imagined the "pro lifestyle" and I have accepted that it is not for me. To those who chose to pursue gambling as to make a living, best of luck! |
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#137 Posted: 10/10/2012 11:54:26 PM |
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#138 Posted: 10/11/2012 4:06:01 PM
Best of luck to you beergut. I hope that you can live the dream at some point!!
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#139 Posted: 10/12/2012 2:14:45 PM |
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#140 Posted: 10/12/2012 9:53:09 PM |
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#141 Posted: 10/13/2012 12:11:12 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by jecht: If you have a lifetime 24hr fitness membership there will be no rent expenses.
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#142 Posted: 10/13/2012 1:26:42 PM Great topic... I too share this vision of "Living the Dream". I've been planning on moving out to Vegas for a few years now. I heard about the Griffin Book or Blacklist data base that is held by Griffin Investigations. Does anyone have feed back on this? I assume that if your going to different casino's and only winning a few hundred dollars a day you shouldn't have to big a target on your back. Also read on Wikipedia that the more you win in a casino the less comps they give you or they start to take away your comps. Wikipedia has a wealth of information about this. Somewhere it specifically says that Sharp bettors, advantage betters, and arbitrage bettor can get on this list.
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"In the Griffin Book, published by Griffin Investigations, listed individuals are generally suspected of being, or known to be, either advantage players or outright cheaters at the casino games themselves. Thus, casinos find it in their own economic best interest to exclude such individuals. Those listed may be anyone perceived as a threat to the casino's profits, including those that use legal and illegal means, such as card counters, people who mark cards, those who try to cheat slot machines or anyone else considered a threat to a casino, including players that the casinos believe are winning too much or too often."
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#143 Posted: 10/13/2012 9:12:36 PM 
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#144 Posted: 10/15/2012 3:04:10 AM 1. He's not gonna get blackbooked unless he's cheating at some sort of game...
2. Nobody who's target goal is a bill a day is gonna fall under their category as a 'sharp' period.
3. I'm not sure what the OPs intentions are. When you say $100 a day, do you mean 100 each and every single day, or like an average over the course of a year. If you're betting for a single goal that day you're in garbage. You should be betting when you see value and the plays are good. Chasing money is just a poor idea. If your end game is just an average, then the people telling you it isn't possible are just dumb. Lets assume 100 is 1 unit. On a given saturday you can clear several units. Other than money management there's no system. Just know your garbage and its more than possible. |
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#146 Posted: 10/15/2012 3:38:02 PM LVH is only good for weekend sportsbetting. Way too far from the strip and all the action. You will waste $30-40/day on cabs to leave the hotel. Terrible location. My advice is to change to a strip hotel even if it costs you a few more dollars, well worth it. You will regret having to go back to the Hilton every day you are playing on the strip. |
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#147 Posted: 10/15/2012 4:26:51 PM |
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#150 Posted: 10/15/2012 6:38:24 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso: Let me clarify
If you are going to rent an apartment the cheapest you will find is maybe a studio for around 500 a month
so thats 6500 for the year including security deposit
You will have Bills
Electric,gas,cable and or satalite, phone and internet with the summers and winters lets say your total for these bills is another 300 per month
thats 3600 per year
You will need a car, Lets say your car is payed off just to be nice with insurance and gas and maintenence you are looking at 300 per month
thats another 3600 for the year
now food, dining in dining out going out to movies, dating once in a while if you have a life say another 400 per month, Im being ultra conservative here on a tight behind budget
thats 4800 per year
add medical insurance another 150 per month thats 1800 per year
from bottom to top
1800
4800
3600
3600
6500
thats 20K to 23K depending on your life style
Now in order for you to have a chance in hell of being successfull You will need that money just to live on for 12 calender months
Now you need a bankroll
trying to win 100 per day is not feasable Its just not
You will have to be ultra selective and bet a nickle a game until you reach a desired goal for the month a desired goal would be 3k
Pay attention here its the most valuable lesson in this reply
You need to come up atleast 7 wagers won over the wagers you lost.
You are giving yourself 30 calender days to reach this goal, its the only way to make this type of move without going bust
so 500 a day is what you must have for wagering with the swings of wins and losses you need 500 a day x 60 days atleast 30K
so I was wrong when I said 100K You need atleast 50K
thats my opinion and in my case if I ever decided to do something so irresponsible I have a family, I would need atleast 150K because my expenses are double to tripple.
But good luck.
Well the portion you wrote about making $100 per day not being possible...This is simply untrue.
Anyone can make an easy $100 per day out here (or much more)if you have a professional system as I do.
In other words, the minimum to live the dream would be $0. You do not need a dime to start. But obviously unless you wish to be homeless I'd recommend enough to rent a place, as well as for food and bankroll. The bankroll required for my Holy Grail system is only $150 to start.
I have never lost in the long term with it. It works consistently, so the problem with most people out here is that they don't know how to play or win. That is why it costs them so much. Las Vegas is actually one of the cheaper places to live in the country, so if you're not a loser, this is a good place to come and live. |
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