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LanceLogan PM LanceLogan
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Posted: 9/16/2012 5:43:23 PM
In the media the only thing we here is about the issues about the revenue split, the real issue is the countless teams that play to half empty rinks, I already stated the NHL should follow the MLB model.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 6:00:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wiggins:

i may not be white but i am privileged too its really not an insult. ive seen some try to play hockey but cant because their parents cant afford it. one of my closest buds had to stop because too many siblings

i played hockey and waking up early is not a struggle for anyone. its an inconvenience.

look at the difference in the way people were brought up in other sports and hockey

very few stories of very poor players making it in hockey. it just cant happen...the sport is too expensive. every other one simply requires a ball. hockey needs equipment and a facility. there are very few grassroots programs for hockey

i am sorry but if waking up early and travel is what people have to overcome to play a sport i dont consider that really difficult. the socioeconomic conditions for the majority of hockey families is quite favorable to other sports.



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Posted: 9/16/2012 6:57:50 PM
lockout? oh garbage, MLB is drawing to the end, and i'm waiting NHL & NBA. hope they can fight on the ice
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Posted: 9/16/2012 6:58:19 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by wiggins:

i may not be white but i am privileged too its really not an insult. ive seen some try to play hockey but cant because their parents cant afford it. one of my closest buds had to stop because too many siblings

i played hockey and waking up early is not a struggle for anyone. its an inconvenience.

look at the difference in the way people were brought up in other sports and hockey

very few stories of very poor players making it in hockey. it just cant happen...the sport is too expensive. every other one simply requires a ball. hockey needs equipment and a facility. there are very few grassroots programs for hockey

i am sorry but if waking up early and travel is what people have to overcome to play a sport i dont consider that really difficult. the socioeconomic conditions for the majority of hockey families is quite favorable to other sports.

What sports are so much cheaper? 

Hard to pick what part of your post is the most inaccurate.  Like any other sport there is every opportunity to buy used equipment.  Every sport is way to expensive for most  anymore, you bringing race into this is just ridiculous.

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Posted: 9/16/2012 7:08:36 PM

What sports are so much cheaper?

REALLY? all you need for basketball is some shoes, shorts and a ball. Soccer? same thing. that is why they are probably the two MOST popular sports world wide.

about the same with baseball at it's lowest level. just need a bat, ball and glove with a pasture to play in. the baseball field doesn't have to be fancy.

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Posted: 9/16/2012 7:15:57 PM
The cost of equipment??? Try the cost of icetime,, or is pee wee hockey played on a frozen lake out east.
   
Rink rates are damn near $150 an hour on weekends and evenings,, most practices are early morning beacuse the rates are about 1/3rd the cost.

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Posted: 9/16/2012 8:01:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

What sports are so much cheaper?

REALLY? all you need for basketball is some shoes, shorts and a ball. Soccer? same thing. that is why they are probably the two MOST popular sports world wide.

about the same with baseball at it's lowest level. just need a bat, ball and glove with a pasture to play in. the baseball field doesn't have to be fancy.

Fees are included in all these sports and as someone with 2 kids playing all these sports hockey isnt that much more expensive if at all then these.  Like I said you can get dirt cheap equipment if you want to look for it.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 8:05:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LanceLogan:

The cost of equipment??? Try the cost of icetime,, or is pee wee hockey played on a frozen lake out east.
   
Rink rates are damn near $150 an hour on weekends and evenings,, most practices are early morning beacuse the rates are about 1/3rd the cost.

Any idea what you pay for kids to play 1 game a week for soccer?  45 minutes tops of time? Maybe 8-10 games for whole summer.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 11:22:23 PM
to rent a field for non profit youth for soccer or baseball is less than $40. You really have no argument that ice hockey is affordable for working class families, most registrations fees are at least $500 a kid.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 12:16:26 AM
fuckin fool, had all off season to figure this garbage out. bullshit i say, idiots lock up these players to long term big money contacts then cry like babies. darn off. dumb people.

Bettman can go darn himself, his expansion of the league experiment has failed miserably. to say the least.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 1:21:30 AM
I wonder if the gm's and agents anticipated salary rollbacks and factored that in all the recent long term signings??
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Posted: 9/17/2012 1:28:03 AM
When did white collar families become a bad thing.... People are so jealous of other peoples success.....

There are plenty of wealthy black families who can afford their kid the benefit of hockey.. But they choose baskets, football and other ssports... What a bullshit excuse...

Rink, you are full of garbage too...

Racist fool... Blame everyone and everything else other than the truth... Liberal minded stupidity...

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Posted: 9/17/2012 2:08:28 AM

the only way this is going to end is if players take a cut and that wont happen cause the players took a cut last time and agreed to the leagues proposals. players are arguing if your plan didnt work last time, try our approach but the owners are hard headed. the players understand that smaller market teams need help and there willing to give a percentage to them to help out and the smaller issue of contract lengths can be negotiated. the issue comes down to the revenue sharing split. i support the players on this issue because of them is the reason why the game grew up and they should be entitled to a bigger piece of the pie. Basically the players 57% revenue sharing percentage has to drop to 50% or less for the owners agree. hard seeing that happen. anyways lets just hope for the season to end.

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Posted: 9/17/2012 2:32:53 AM
I also wonder if the players really know what's going on or if they just do what their agents and union reps say to do. Most NHL players turn pro at 18 or 19, it's not like they have to go thru collage 1st to get to the pro's. 
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Posted: 9/17/2012 10:13:56 AM
I think the mistake was: they should have gone on with the season on a "good faith" decision to continue negotiations and if no agreement is reached by half season, then outside mediators should be brought in.... 

Basketball shares 50% and football 47% of the revenues....

Something could have been worked out for the benefit of both players and the league.....
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:18:58 PM
22 of the owners still make money if there are no games this ENTIRE season. They don't give a garbage about hockey.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:20:38 PM
They shouldn't have owners who don't care and they shouldn't have ever payed the players so much. The whole system is fucked. How can 22 of the teams still make money when there are no games. That answers everything.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:21:16 PM
Source TSN.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 11:36:09 PM
I love gary.  During the NHL news conference prior to the lockout, he said the teams needed the reduction because they "are paying way too much".  That's funny because Teemu Selanne said in his blog this morning "Bettman is def the NHL's most hated person".  "He makes 8 million a year.  Would Mr.Bettman be willing to give up his salary and give up part of it to the poorer teams?  So do you mean gary was lying to us again? This lockout is all about gary's fukkups and now he wants the players to pay for it. 
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Posted: 9/17/2012 11:44:29 PM
It is possible that greedy snivelling weasel little person napoleon midget person gary and the greedy Canadian team owners could bring in scab players.  Its also possible for the players and a long lineup of wealthy investors to start another league.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 11:45:54 PM

Bettman, what a worm...

  

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Posted: 9/18/2012 12:37:54 AM
 no hockey

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Posted: 9/18/2012 1:10:48 AM
If your referring to the expansion teams as Bettmans fuckups DB, every team brought in means another 24 union jobs paying dues into the NHLPA. Truth be told a euro like Selanne can shut the darn up and go back to friggin Finland with the $100 mil+ he's made in his NHL career. All the goddamn lawyers and agents and their friggin commisions are as much to blame for the high salarys as anybody.

As for the greedy Canadian owners they were all bleeding money ten years ago mostly due to the low Canadian dollar at the time and the last 5 years really just got them back their previous losses.
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Posted: 9/18/2012 2:56:24 AM
This is gonna kill the sport
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Posted: 9/18/2012 1:34:27 PM
and the superstars go to the KHL etc... and the 3rd 4th liners sit on their behind, or go to some beer league

what a fuckin joke man, that's one solid union right there
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