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Author: [Politics] Topic: drj, woop or someone with a medical background... can you clear up this issue?
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Posted: 9/20/2011 3:54:35 PM
What is downright scary is that adults would subject their own flesh and blood to these highly dangerous "vaccinations"

You should never trust any info that comes from govt endorsed/funded so called science

Who in their right minds would put that crap in their body?
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Posted: 9/20/2011 4:32:54 PM
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Posted: 9/20/2011 4:39:23 PM
Youre right drj, im just being terse

Anything the government says is good, should not be questioned. They know best

I mean look at the old food pyramid. That did wonders for the general health of the citizenry. And i know its not like the same info was instructed at universities and passed on from docs to patients

Obesity and diabetes are good for you (clanky mugs guys)
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Posted: 9/20/2011 4:43:50 PM
so i read the wikipedia on him cashin.....
criminal history.....lots of his sociopathic and abusive issues were not substantiated but more just rumored.....tough to prove

fact is he fled a burning house with three babies in it and refused to go back in.......quite strange since i would die trying.....not even a doubt in my mind

read all the forensic controversy
tough call

so gov perry gets a report on a child killer that beats his wife yet maybe all thats made up.....seems like a tough sell for clemency

seems controversial still.

quite frankly if all my kids died id care not a whit about living anymore so its a non issue if it was me.

the whole article was just depressing.


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Posted: 9/20/2011 4:48:42 PM
easy, i think the gov is one big scary monstrosity but i have polio deaths and an uncle with post polio syndrome slowly dying so i know from a personal professional and intellectual standpoint the pros and cons of vaccinations.
those who choose not to do it benefit from herd immunity,  that herd is smaller than previous percentage wise and all sorts of fun diseases are returning.
gardisil is a choice not a mandate in my opinion since its a sex activity disease
i gave it to my older daughter.  she lived, God be praised
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Posted: 9/20/2011 5:16:21 PM
MMR vaccines, polio vaccines, DTP vaccines, Hepatitis vaccines, Varicella vaccines should all be done away with.    The government is controlling our brains through these vaccines!!  

Instead everyone should counter with marijuana, the #1 endorsed drug of covers.com!
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Posted: 9/20/2011 5:21:17 PM
It is very hard for me to discern between those who stand to profit from one side of this argument, and those who believe that they do not need the drugs/vaccines

Im just glad that there is someone out there who knows whats best for me

Can you hook me up with a shot of rubella warshed down with some mupsy and measles salvation potion?

How bouts lipitor?

Thats a highly profitable, widely distributed, "solution to a problem", correct?
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Posted: 9/20/2011 5:51:04 PM
lipitor is both a salvation and a poison......good if youre clogged and not poisoned by it.   offpatent in december
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Posted: 9/20/2011 5:56:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by be easy:

It is very hard for me to discern between those who stand to profit from one side of this argument, and those who believe that they do not need the drugs/vaccines

Im just glad that there is someone out there who knows whats best for me

Can you hook me up with a shot of rubella warshed down with some mupsy and measles salvation potion?

How bouts lipitor?

Thats a highly profitable, widely distributed, "solution to a problem", correct?

Hey guy,

You should educate yourself on SMALLPOX.  

The CDC estimates that smallpox has killed between 300-500 MILLION people throughout history.  Without the vaccination for these horrid viruses of variola major and variola minor would still be terrorizing society today.  

DANG GOVERNMENT 
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Posted: 9/20/2011 5:57:24 PM
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lipitor is both a salvation and a poison......good if youre clogged and not poisoned by it.   offpatent in december

Lipitor has worked wonders for many people.  
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Posted: 9/20/2011 6:55:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by drJ:

so i read the wikipedia on him cashin.....
criminal history.....lots of his sociopathic and abusive issues were not substantiated but more just rumored.....tough to prove

fact is he fled a burning house with three babies in it and refused to go back in.......quite strange since i would die trying.....not even a doubt in my mind

read all the forensic controversy
tough call

so gov perry gets a report on a child killer that beats his wife yet maybe all thats made up.....seems like a tough sell for clemency

seems controversial still.

quite frankly if all my kids died id care not a whit about living anymore so its a non issue if it was me.

the whole article was just depressing.


Yeah, it's depressing alright. It's always depressing to me when a man's put to death based on the testimony of a jailhouse snitch who later wanted to recant his story, a supposed unsavory character, faulty outdated forensic evidence & the fact he didn't do what others thought he should have, but with no motive whatsoever. And then when new evidence comes to light from noted fire scientists, the governor doesn't even give a 30 day stay of execution for it at least to be looked into further & after he's executed & a commission is disbanded by Perry 2 days before the scientist is to give testimony. Yeah, that's depressing - haven't lived in TX for quite awhile but this story caught my attention & I read up on it. Stinks bad on all fronts -

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Posted: 9/20/2011 8:22:47 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by drJ:

my my...woop answers correctly and gets behind rammed.
gardisil is basically safe...potential for the rare ascending paralysis known as guillan barre
perry isnt lying here but i expect he is a liar
bachman is mis informed but i suspect she is not a liar by nature at all.  
theres my psycho ananlysis.
maybe the mommy told bachman gardasil made her daughter vote obama and that translated in to mental illness


drJ, thank you for participating in this thread...

Woop gave a correct answer, but got his behind rammed because the forum is so used to his BS...  but like  I said... the thread should not be blamed for his unpopularity...

People are taking shots at him and he is taking shots at everyone else (including myself)... why is is so difficult for woop and others to have a serious discussion about the vaccine debate that occurred between Perry and Bachman?

I agree with you that Bachman may not be liar because she actually believes that the vaccine causes mental retardation based on an anecdotal story from one mother.... But this is what is so concerning about Bachman to me is that if she was in power she would make decisions that effect the nation and the world based on "what she believes" regardless if there is scientific/medical/reality behind it...

If perry was wrong, I would be slamming him for trying to poison our nation...  i mean this is why they have the debates, so that we can get to know the candidates .

And if this is the process by which Bachman comes to conclusions and makes decisions, this is very scary indeed...

I question why she is so supported by the Teaparty other then she is a Palin who has actually worked in Washington before and is a part of the tea party legislative movement...  I would think that if the Tea party wanted to be taken seriously beyond its followers they would have someone represent them that could be taken seriously...


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Posted: 9/21/2011 10:12:28 AM
http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2011/9/20/bachmanns-campaign-rhetoric-crosses-line-hpv-claim/

More significantly, however, Bachmann’s claims about the vaccine’s consequences are flat-out incorrect, and so dramatically so that the American Academy of Pediatrics released a statement refuting Bachmann’s claims, stating that “There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement” and that the “life-saving vaccine that can protect girls from cervical cancer” has an “excellent safety record.”

It’s practically expected that presidential candidates will make extravagant claims during campaign season, but this crosses the line from exaggerated to outright dangerous.

This kind of incendiary, fear-mongering rhetoric is not only a dishonest campaigning strategy but outright harms the public. Bachmann told the Today Show that people have to draw their own conclusions about the safety of the vaccine. But when this kind of blatant misinformation is running rampant, it makes it significantly more difficult for parents to make informed decisions about the vaccinations that their children should receive.

Furthermore, after being faced with the reality of the vaccine, that it’s just as safe as any other vaccine out there, she refused to correct her statements.

"I didn't make any statements that would indicate I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist, or making any conclusions about the drug one way or the other,” she said during a campaign stop in San Francisco, The Huffington Post reported.

That’s right: because she didn’t claim to be a medical professional, she can say whatever she likes about a vaccine and assume that people know that she has no grounds for the claims she’s making.

This kind of rhetoric has to stop. It’s harmful not only to the political process but to the public as well.


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