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Posted: 6/16/2012 6:10:55 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

Tilt with Tide will set Big Ten tone

Michigan's season opener will shape national opinion of conference

http://espn.go.com/colleges/michigan/football/story/_/id/8033656/michigan-wolverines-carry-big-hopes-alabama-crimson-tide

 

 

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Posted: 6/16/2012 6:25:49 AM
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Denard is much better overall than JJ

I agree somebody comparing JJ to Denard is like comparing apple's to oranges.

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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:48:02 PM
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Denard is much better overall than JJ

Denard is a better runner, and JJ is a better passer.  I think it's pretty much a wash.

 

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Posted: 6/18/2012 5:05:33 PM
Probably be a very entertaining game. Like both Michigan and Mizzou's chances against the spread vs Bama since they are catching them early in the year and not in Tuscaloosa. Looks like the Michigan line will settle around 13. Bama's D should be very good but the earlier you catch them the better. Wouldn't doubt if Bama's offense and kicking game is considerably better than last year, even with new O coordinator. QB and RBs may be special. O line is NFL caliber...
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Posted: 6/18/2012 6:18:33 PM
I agree on Mizzou moe
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Posted: 6/18/2012 11:01:02 PM
dont listen to satnightfever.. hes never said anything positive about michigan. the guy literally picks against michigan every game last season. Saban hates michigan right...? lol thats why he voted michigan higher than state in his final season ballot... basically snubbing his own former team but he really hates michigan right.

Bama wins though.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 1:30:50 AM
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dont listen to satnightfever.. hes never said anything positive about michigan. the guy literally picks against michigan every game last season. Saban hates michigan right...? lol thats why he voted michigan higher than state in his final season ballot... basically snubbing his own former team but he really hates michigan right.

Bama wins though.

Interesting...

Good to see a Michigan fan stop by and post.

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Posted: 6/19/2012 3:12:58 AM
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Probably be a very entertaining game. Like both Michigan and Mizzou's chances against the spread vs Bama since they are catching them early in the year and not in Tuscaloosa. Looks like the Michigan line will settle around 13. Bama's D should be very good but the earlier you catch them the better. Wouldn't doubt if Bama's offense and kicking game is considerably better than last year, even with new O coordinator. QB and RBs may be special. O line is NFL caliber...

I tend to agree that catching Alabama in week one may confer a slight advantage to Michigan, but quite frankly I don't think it will have much effect on the outcome of this game. Alabama should win and easily cover any spread under 2 TDs.

I also agree on the Mizzou game. I think Mizzou is one of the dager games on Bama's schedule. That said, there is no reason to commit to a side this early in the season as it is 7 weeks deep. We should have a pretty good indication of the capabilities of both teams at that juncture. The one advantage Alabama does have going into the Mizzou game is that they have a bye-week the week prior, so Alabama will have plenty of time to rest, heal and prepare for that game.

The four danger games I see on Alabama's schedule is Arkansas, Mizzou, Tennessee & LSU. No disrespect intended toward Wolverine fans, but I think they have vitually no shot of beating Alabama in Week 1.

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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:31:42 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

dont listen to satnightfever.. hes never said anything positive about michigan. the guy literally picks against michigan every game last season. Saban hates michigan right...? lol thats why he voted michigan higher than state in his final season ballot... basically snubbing his own former team but he really hates michigan right.

Bama wins though.


Yes because Saban not liking UM has anything to do with where he voted them..
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:52:02 AM
dont listen to satnightfever.. hes never said anything positive about michigan....

nice work Dynasty...he does hate those Wolverines...


This game is probably best avoided....
*Does Saban wanna make a statement here?....if Tide attitude maybe not where he wants it....and he senses some complacency ....he might want a big win

*Will that (UM OC) Al Borges stick with the West Coast O....and come in with the same game plan as vs Hokies?....if so they get KILLED.....
and what was a 27-13 type game rapidly becomes a 45-10 type game
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:29:05 PM

Michigan and Bama...  love to see these type of matchups.. Going back and watching some games from both teams, and seeing who will be returning, I feel pretty confident that Bama should win the game, but more than likely will not be placing a wager on it. Bama being the defending National Champions will be more than enough motivation for Michigan to play lights out... and too many uncertainties in my opinion on the defensive side of the ball for Bama, with losing so many defensive leaders and game changers.. I know Bama has the talent to reload, but don't feel they will be the dominating force they were last year, especially not by the season opener... and feel that Michigan has enough weapons to make some big plays... just my too cents.... good to see all  the familiar faces in here talking about what really matter... college football 

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Posted: 6/19/2012 6:08:21 PM
tideman do you bama fans care about your hoops team as well? They made the tourney this past season?
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Posted: 6/20/2012 7:32:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tideman:

Michigan and Bama...  love to see these type of matchups.. Going back and watching some games from both teams, and seeing who will be returning, I feel pretty confident that Bama should win the game, but more than likely will not be placing a wager on it. Bama being the defending National Champions will be more than enough motivation for Michigan to play lights out... and too many uncertainties in my opinion on the defensive side of the ball for Bama, with losing so many defensive leaders and game changers.. I know Bama has the talent to reload, but don't feel they will be the dominating force they were last year, especially not by the season opener... and feel that Michigan has enough weapons to make some big plays... just my too cents.... good to see all  the familiar faces in here talking about what really matter... college football 

That's a fact...all we can do is get old together and talk college football some will fade for all kinds of reasons, but till that day covers.com is our second home...

 

 

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Posted: 6/25/2012 5:40:56 PM

Die hard Michigan fan here that pays close attention to recruiting and coaching staffs!  Doesnt mean garbage just giving a little background of my non important knowledge.

First off last years numbers according to a high respectible handicapper put last years numbers as Bama -16!  Well of course if the way they played against LSU I would have gone minus the points and especially after Michigan eeking out a win against VT.  I believe the line opened at 14.5 or around!  I watch Michigan to the point its disgusting like we all do.  Michigan is much better coached than I have scene since forever!  LLoyd  Carr had some amazing talents on his teams including the whole defense from 97 that alll went to the NFL.  Point is take into account Michigan's new staff.  I really dont think vegas has on this number but they sure did when Michigan played VT.  Michigan talent on offense and Denard is always quicker game 1.  He is almost another player in the beginnning of the season compared to the middle to end.  He cant throw for garbage and Michigan doesnt have Hemingway back.  But they have a decent core of receivers with a solid Running Back.  I would lean Michigan plus anything 10 or higher.  This could potentially be a good hedge situtution or already was that we missed out on.  Bama is established but also losst alot of guys last year but will refill with good recruits.  Is Bama really that good?  I have alot of doubts about Bama and the quarterback play.  Besides the Nat game I really didnt think to highly of AJ.  I really think both these teams are overhyped coming into the season and would lose to USC!  hard to say coming from a Michigan fan.  Ultimately I think taking the points would be wise because Michigan's Defense is no slouch.  Greg Mattison in year two will have this defense even more prepered.  Their has been way to much time for Alabama staff and Michigan staff for this game not to be kept under two touchdowns.  Both these staffs are incredible and Michigan has something to prove.  I dont think they ahve enough but I would enjoy a W over the SEC to make our Record somewhere in the ball park of 25-5.  I think the past 12 years we beat Auburn, Bama, Florida, Florida, Vandy!  Pretty impressive.  Bama has some revenge on their minds or NOT.  be ready for a hard fought defensive game that Michigan will lose in the Trenches.  Denard is much better in the beginning of the year remember that.  Or at least Running!  HE FAST!  I cant wait for Shane Morris though.

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Michigan 21 Bama 6

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Posted: 6/25/2012 6:08:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mtp104:

Die hard Michigan fan here that pays close attention to recruiting and coaching staffs!  Doesnt mean garbage just giving a little background of my non important knowledge.

First off last years numbers according to a high respectible handicapper put last years numbers as Bama -16!  Well of course if the way they played against LSU I would have gone minus the points and especially after Michigan eeking out a win against VT.  I believe the line opened at 14.5 or around!  I watch Michigan to the point its disgusting like we all do.  Michigan is much better coached than I have scene since forever!  LLoyd  Carr had some amazing talents on his teams including the whole defense from 97 that alll went to the NFL.  Point is take into account Michigan's new staff.  I really dont think vegas has on this number but they sure did when Michigan played VT.  Michigan talent on offense and Denard is always quicker game 1.  He is almost another player in the beginnning of the season compared to the middle to end.  He cant throw for garbage and Michigan doesnt have Hemingway back.  But they have a decent core of receivers with a solid Running Back.  I would lean Michigan plus anything 10 or higher.  This could potentially be a good hedge situtution or already was that we missed out on.  Bama is established but also losst alot of guys last year but will refill with good recruits.  Is Bama really that good?  I have alot of doubts about Bama and the quarterback play.  Besides the Nat game I really didnt think to highly of AJ.  I really think both these teams are overhyped coming into the season and would lose to USC!  hard to say coming from a Michigan fan.  Ultimately I think taking the points would be wise because Michigan's Defense is no slouch.  Greg Mattison in year two will have this defense even more prepered.  Their has been way to much time for Alabama staff and Michigan staff for this game not to be kept under two touchdowns.  Both these staffs are incredible and Michigan has something to prove.  I dont think they ahve enough but I would enjoy a W over the SEC to make our Record somewhere in the ball park of 25-5.  I think the past 12 years we beat Auburn, Bama, Florida, Florida, Vandy!  Pretty impressive.  Bama has some revenge on their minds or NOT.  be ready for a hard fought defensive game that Michigan will lose in the Trenches.  Denard is much better in the beginning of the year remember that.  Or at least Running!  HE FAST!  I cant wait for Shane Morris though.

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Michigan 21 Bama 6



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Posted: 6/25/2012 6:09:55 PM
I have to agree with you after reading it I laughed at myself!!  Seriously I laughed so I'm in completely agree!
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Posted: 6/25/2012 6:13:47 PM

No way Michigan would lose 45-10!  Bama isn't that good!  Good god SEC fans are so unrealistic with some things.  In order for that the talent gap would have to be Michigan compared to Eastern Michigan!  Please Michigan is Michigan and will always be !  45-10 is almost as ridiculous as 21-6 I posted lol!

ote: Originally Posted by bookieassassin] dont listen to satnightfever.. hes never said anything positive about michigan....

nice work Dynasty...he does hate those Wolverines...


This game is probably best avoided....
*Does Saban wanna make a statement here?....if Tide attitude maybe not where he wants it....and he senses some complacency ....he might want a big win

*Will that (UM OC) Al Borges stick with the West Coast O....and come in with the same game plan as vs Hokies?....if so they get KILLED.....
and what was a 27-13 type game rapidly becomes a 45-10 type game
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I have to agree with you after reading it I laughed at myself!!  Seriously I laughed so I'm in completely agree!

Well you may have laughed but i got to give you high fives, for taking up for Michigan like that, i enjoyed the days when Carr was coaching also and hateing seeing him leave.

One thing that stuck out was when you was not impressed with A.J. his passing in the NCG was pretty much on Q.

A.J. McCarron could be Alabama's spot light against Michigan instead of a new running back taking the helm.

If Michigan had won the NCG two out of the last three years i would say Alabama has a fighting chance. Alabama clearly has the edge, but the gap could be norrow in this game then most think.

 

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Posted: 6/26/2012 7:00:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mtp104:

No way Michigan would lose 45-10!  Bama isn't that good!  Good god SEC fans are so unrealistic with some things.  In order for that the talent gap would have to be Michigan compared to Eastern Michigan!  Please Michigan is Michigan and will always be !  45-10 is almost as ridiculous as 21-6 I posted lol!

ote: Originally Posted by bookieassassin] dont listen to satnightfever.. hes never said anything positive about michigan....

nice work Dynasty...he does hate those Wolverines...


This game is probably best avoided....
*Does Saban wanna make a statement here?....if Tide attitude maybe not where he wants it....and he senses some complacency ....he might want a big win

*Will that (UM OC) Al Borges stick with the West Coast O....and come in with the same game plan as vs Hokies?....if so they get KILLED.....
and what was a 27-13 type game rapidly becomes a 45-10 type game
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Bama hasn't played yet I don't think....

If Michigan plays like they did vs Va Tech.....they will get slaughtered......personally expecting a 27-13......31-17 type game......DR breaks a few then maybe 27-21 ish

The talent gap between the 2 teams IS significant ...
     *what Michigan players would start for Bama?
maybe one OL......MAYBE one LB....and DR as a WR/KR?.....

*maybe best to sober up before posting.....or maybe not
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Posted: 6/27/2012 4:38:35 PM

Recent Meetings:

01/01/00 >>  MICH 35 vs. ALAB 34

01/01/97 >>  ALAB 17 vs. MICH 14

01/02/88 >>  MICH 28 vs. ALAB 24

 

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Posted: 6/27/2012 4:45:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Lucan:

Recent Meetings:

01/01/00 >>  MICH 35 vs. ALAB 34

01/01/97 >>  ALAB 17 vs. MICH 14

01/02/88 >>  MICH 28 vs. ALAB 24

 

This will be the 1st time both teams have played each other with fresh legs, all the other games were at the end of the seasons when the players were beat to hell and back. Not making excuse's for more lost games...lol.

I think Alabama even's this series 2-2 

Roll-Tide

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Posted: 6/28/2012 12:00:32 PM
don't see any angle for betting this game... toss up!  Michigan will not be the push-over some people expect them to be in this game...

if there is a play, it's on the Over... both teams should be able to score!
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I will Take MICHIGAN and the points
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don't see any angle for betting this game... toss up!  Michigan will not be the push-over some people expect them to be in this game...

if there is a play, it's on the Over... both teams should be able to score!

Total maybe around 49.5 ???
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:39:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

I have no doubt that Denard will make a few plays with his feet, but I don't think that it will translate into 14 points.

There will be no "green" defenders taking the field for Alabama.  Pretty much all of them have extensive experience.  Here are a couple of examples.

Just reading straight out of Phil Steele's magazine, Dee Milner, who is replacing the 17th overall draft pick in the NFL draft, had 11 starts, 55 tackles, 9 pass break-ups and was a 1st team Freshman All American in 2010.  Milner IMO will be better than Dre Kirkpatrick.  He's bigger, stronger, faster, is a better tackler and was a more highly touted recruit coming out of high school.  Everyone whose opinion I value thinks he'll be better as well.

Ed Stinson (who may not even be the starter) played in all 13 games last season, had 19 takles, and 5 for a loss.

There are only two starting players (according to PS's magazine) that I think can be considered even remotely green, and they may not be even be the starters.  But basing it strictly off of PS's projected starting lineup, OLB Xzavier Dickson will be a true sophmore who only appeared in 7 games, had 3 tackles, and 1.5 for a loss straight out of high school.  That he played that much as a true freshman on one of the greatest defenses in college football history should give you an indication of just how good he is.

The only other player I might consider somewhat green is JUCO CB transfer Deion Belue, but only because he's new to the scheme and the DI level of play.  But as I said above, Belue, who is a fabulous athlete and one of the best cover guys I've ever witnessed, may not even be the starter.  If he doesn't start John Fulton, who was a very highly touted recruit, has been in the system 3 years.  He played in all 13 games last season.  Regardless of who gets the start in this CB spot, I also consider it an upgrade over 5th round selection DeQuan Menzie.

The question for Alabama's defense will not be talent or experience.  Their challenge will be to replace Dont'a Hightower and Mark Barron's on-the-field leadership.

 

 

Jimmy put down red the kool-aid goodness. No way your D doesnt have a drop off from last year...Can't replace real game experience...CAN NOT DO IT...

And the comment comparing Denard to JJ is purely laughable.

Jimmy is blinded by the homerism

 

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