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Posted: 12/14/2011 8:26:59 PM

IF this isnt a great trade by the clippers, then it is definitely a very good one...

Im sure a lot of you die hards have heard this a million times, usually the team that gets the best player(in his prime) gets the better of the deal, usually 3 for 1 or 4 for 1 or whatever.. And that is the case here, i really do believe this...

Yes it would of been much better obviously if the Clips didnt give up Gordon who is a young talented player but still... 

They get Paul, a future hall of famer in his prime for 2 years and after that im pretty sure they will convince him to play because Paul will have a lot of fun throwing lobs to griffin and DeAndre jordan all game long. And no one throws better lobs than paul. Chandler made a living off those lobs when he was in New Orleans..

So they lose Gordon (very talented but slightly undersized  at 6'3 SG), they lose Kaman (injury prone, getting old, and would not of been happy coming off the bench to Jordan), they lose Aminu (no big loss here), and they lose a very good draft pick (you never know who you will get in the draft, this is an unknown even top 3 picks can end up being a huge bust, we dont even know if this would be a top 2 or 3 pick)

In return clips get Paul.. Like i said, this guy is a super talent, a proven top 2/3 PG in this league for many years now... If anyone saw those playoff games vs the Lakers last year, that alone would show you how this guy can dominate a game... He is a future hall of famer in his prime..

Again, yes i know it seems like the Clippers gave up a lot losing jordan and that pick but darn, this is a no brainer to me...

A great PG for the future, and just like what people say about the NFL (QB driven league) the NBA has turned into a PG driven league. And that is not just my opinion. That is what ive heard over and over again from commentaters, nba analysts and so on, yes they are sometimes wrong but i really do believe the PG position then very close the Center position are the two most important positions in the league.

 

Only time will tell for sure what happens.. Clippers still need a SG but their team looks pretty impressive right now.  With this trade they are at least a playoff team and then in a year they might even go further than the 1st round.. w/o this trade im not sure the clips make the playoffs..

So lets just enjoy this, this team will be a lot of fun to watch. They already were of course but with Paul throwing lobs left right and center to those two freak athletes in Griffin and Jordan, sky is the limit..

I cant believe im saying this but i cant wait to see the Clippers this season... I wont jump on the bandwagon though, i still love my celtics and unfortunately i am still a Rapts fan(that will never change) but darn, Clippers might now be the most exciting team to watch. At least top 3....

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Posted: 12/14/2011 8:30:43 PM
Couldn't disagree more..they will be lucky to get in the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed..and have Paul for only 2 years..good luck with that..
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Posted: 12/14/2011 8:39:28 PM
Anybody who says that this was a bad deal for the Clippers has absolutely no basketball IQ. Great trade for both teams- Hornets fill there roster with quality players and a potential top draft pick in the next draft, and the Clippers finally have a great point guard who is in my opinion, the best in the league today. There was no way the Clippers could have done this without involving Gordon. He is a quality scorer, and aminu is young talent along with kaman who only appeared as if though he was going to backup deandre this season. People are questioning giving up the draft pick? If giving up the POTENTIAL top draft pick isn't worthy of having the ultimate team basketball player in Chris Paul then I don't know what to say... The Clippers go through the same shenanigans every year and have top young talent. FINALLY they have a competent point guard who can make everyone else around him gel. I think it was also a big plus that they kept Bledsoe because I think he will greatly benefit from Paul. I expect HUGE things from this Clippers team now as I believe they will be a top 3 team in the West. And as long as that happens, CP3 will remain with the Clippers for many years to come...
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Posted: 12/14/2011 8:43:13 PM
great trade.  jordan slides into kaman's minutes.  he complements blake-- two thunder dunkers; with argueably the best lobber for the big dunk in the game.  chris paul put tyson chandler on the map. 
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Posted: 12/14/2011 10:56:50 PM
The clippers were the most exciting team last year IMHO.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 9:55:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

Couldn't disagree more..they will be lucky to get in the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed..and have Paul for only 2 years..good luck with that..

First off, i think the clippers have a very strong chance to get into the playoffs, you think they would be lucky but look what paul did last year, you do realize he got the Hornets to the playoffs right? And did u see that hornets team??  i guess you didnt, so no they wont be lucky if they make the playoffs, they should make the playoffs this season(obviously it is not a guarantee but im sure the clips are expecting to make the playoffs now) and THAT WOULD BE HUGE for the Clippers.  The clippers have NOT made the playoffs since 2005/2006, and before that playoff appearance it was a huge stretch of finishing out of the playoffs..so if they pull off a playoff appearance this season that would be massive for the organization, the fans, even the city having Lakers and Clips in the playoffs would be great for LA. 

You think they have a better chance of succeeded long term had they NOT made this trade??  And why do you think Paul is only staying 2 years? at minimum he will stay 2 years but i really do feel that after playing with Blake, and the team will be winning, he will sign an extension....

 

 

 

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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

Couldn't disagree more..they will be lucky to get in the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed..and have Paul for only 2 years..good luck with that..

oh yeah, i should of brought up what u said in your thread:

Gave away too many assets to get Chris Paul for two seasons. The Clippers are still not a contender and have serious depth issues. They made a stupid move giving up an emerging player in Eric Gordon, a top 2 pick, and their best post player..

You clearly dont know much about NBA (from your posts last year and this year) and clearly you give off false information.  Just your main thread entry is off.  Clippers didnt even give up much depth, they gave up Kaman (injury prone center who was definitely expendable), Aminu (he added so much depth last year lol) and Gordon (good young talent but 100% worth giving up for a future HOFer in his prime) and then you say they gave up a #2 pick..

WRONG!!  You give off false information.. You dont know what pick that will be. It is minnesotas pick after this year.. Like i said before, how many teams finish as the worst team or 2nd worse team and fall all the way down to 4th or 5th in the draft. How many times has a team picked a high draft pick 1-3 and it is a major bust.  Plus you are speculating they even get that 2nd pick, minnesota actually doesnt look that bad this year and they have Adelman as a coach. He is a great coach. I would be very surprised if they finished with one of the 2 worst records in the league this season so the odds would be heavily against them getting that 1st or 2nd pick.. Just to name a couple teams i feel are as bad or worse than the TWolves (Charlotte, Washington, Cleveland,  Toronto, possibly Det, possibly sac)  so those are 6 teams that are predicted not by just me but by Nba Season Preview Mags that are seen to 'bad' teams this season. Wolves are right in there too but dont assume that the wolves will get the number 2 pick in the draft lol. Anything is possible.......

 

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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by proguy747:

The clippers were the most exciting team last year IMHO.

they were but this season they will be more relevant because they will win a lot more games than last season(they won only 39% of their games)  and this season they have a strong chance to make the playoffs now...

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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:13:08 AM
Only problem for the Clips now is.... They have 4 talented point guards and 0 shooting guard...
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Posted: 12/15/2011 12:26:05 PM
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Only problem for the Clips now is.... They have 4 talented point guards and 0 shooting guard...

yeah that is true but if necessary Mo Wil and Billups can play that SG position, its not their natural spot but we both know those guys love and can actually shoot lol. Mo wil played some SG with other teams he has been with, and Billups i feel is big enough to play SG as well.. Bledsoe cant though lol. He is too small and just a young fella..

OR maybe a trade?? I can definitely see a trade happening.. a more traditional SG would obviously help. Clips cannot trade Billups under the amnesty clause but Mo Wil, Bledsoe among others im pretty sure are fair game..

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Posted: 12/15/2011 1:21:55 PM

Gordon aint chopped liver.  22 and change along with almost 5 dimes last year.  Kaman is certainly serviceable if healthy and he is only 29.  An old 29 for sure.

Aminu was the 8th overall pick.  Can't say he is a bust yet.

So they get a very good combo. guard in Gordon.  The 8th overall pick from last year, and possibly a top 3 pick next year which could be Barnes, Sullinger, Drummond, or A. Davis.....I like the chances of those guys becoming very good players. 

I think the Clips had to do the deal, but the Hornets made out much better than the deal they were talking about with Houston/LA.  At least it gives them some hope for the future.

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Posted: 12/15/2011 3:10:28 PM
False Information? It is a certainty the Hornets are getting a top pick, this is the NBA we are talking about. There's not a chance it won't end up being a top pick.. What are you talking about?

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Posted: 12/15/2011 5:31:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

False Information? It is a certainty the Hornets are getting a top pick, this is the NBA we are talking about. There's not a chance it won't end up being a top pick.. What are you talking about?

If the Wolves make the playoffs, it's not even a lottery pick.  You're going by how bad you THINK the Wolves will be this year.  It could happen where they make a good sized leap.  They added Williams and Rubio and Barea (spelling).  Love lost a lot of weight and will be quicker.  They added B. Miller as well who knows Adelman's system upside down.  Adelman says he is coaching to win, not to develop.

You never know what could happen.  That's just fact.  Could be top 3.  Could be 5-8.  MN's lottery luck has consistently SUCKED.

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Posted: 12/15/2011 5:40:18 PM
  The balls usually bounce the right way as far as the NBA is concerned..
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Posted: 12/15/2011 5:44:23 PM

Chandler made a living off those lobs when he was in New Orleans..

This is a very good point.  David West also made a living because of Paul's work.  Will be a similar set up with Jordan and an even more explosive player in Griffin. 

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Posted: 12/15/2011 7:15:00 PM
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False Information? It is a certainty the Hornets are getting a top pick, this is the NBA we are talking about. There's not a chance it won't end up being a top pick.. What are you talking about?

you said in your post and i quote "They made a stupid move giving up an emerging player in Eric Gordon, a top 2 pick, and their best post player.."

So yes, posting they traded a top 2 pick is false... If any writer wrote that up in a sports column, they would get blasted lol.  Obviously this isnt espn sports but i simply stated that u were making up garbage which is true. You dont know if it will be a top 2 pick, you speculated..

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Posted: 12/15/2011 7:15:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

If the Wolves make the playoffs, it's not even a lottery pick.  You're going by how bad you THINK the Wolves will be this year.  It could happen where they make a good sized leap.  They added Williams and Rubio and Barea (spelling).  Love lost a lot of weight and will be quicker.  They added B. Miller as well who knows Adelman's system upside down.  Adelman says he is coaching to win, not to develop.

You never know what could happen.  That's just fact.  Could be top 3.  Could be 5-8.  MN's lottery luck has consistently SUCKED.

exactly...

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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:35:02 PM
Essentially the trade was Eric Gordan for Chris Paul. If im the LAC I take that any day of the week. Chris Kaman is an after thought, who the hell cares about the draft pick, and half the people in this nba forum have probably never even heard of an Aminu.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 10:38:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by javin:

Only problem for the Clips now is.... They have 4 talented point guards and 0 shooting guard...


Dont get why it is so hard for people to understand that Billups and Williams will be playing off guard. I think Williams is god awful but he can shoot and should be a decent contributor. Chauncey is big, can shoot, and can match up with most 2's in the league.
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Posted: 12/20/2011 9:21:25 AM
i watched the clippers last night, yes it is only pre-season but lakers and clips both had their starters in there for a lot of time in the first half (i didnt watch 2nd half) and the clips looked pretty good...
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Posted: 1/26/2012 7:32:40 PM
Clips looking good so far even though they lost a game they could of easily won last night... fuckk, they had the lead for 90% of the game but the last 2 mins they kindof crumbled a bit.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 7:44:47 PM
should be interesting we'll see what happens w/ that trade 

How about our Hometown Raptors Moneyshot 

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