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#101
Posted: 8/23/2011 3:43:31 PM
It's so easy to say someone else's draft is bad when you have your hopes set on that one player that you expect to be a sleeper and he's taken 1 pick ahead of you and that clock starts to tick down. Not easy being under that pressure in a money league like this.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 4:16:24 PM
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having a sleeping pick being taken 1 pick ahead of you isnt the reason some of these jokers picked defenses and kickers in the 1st 8 rounds...bottom line dude.....also not the reason that some of these people picked players that are not even in the league...it is what it is.

I understand what you're saying about kickers. But defenses are kind of a big deal. Defenses are going to get your team more points than most of your bench players. Once you pick your starters...the rest of the draft is trying to find depth and sleepers.

As for the guys being drafted who aren't in the league...well I can't tell you what the deal with Jamoaks is. He drafted Nathan in baseball last year (Tommy John) and Wainwright this year (Tommy John). He has a habbit with that. And as for Moss...that was clearly a joke.

We all know that the draft is just a casualty. You know there will be starting calibur players on the waiver wire throughout the season. There's always a hot pickup after every week.

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Posted: 8/23/2011 4:22:13 PM
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and as far as your team goes sparky...not bad overall..you should without question drop one of your defenses (probably dallas, since you wasted an 8th round pick on the pats, you may as well keep them)..and you have no use for mcnabb, you have philip rivers who is a MUST START every single week...drop those and pick up a running back and wideout for depth.

McNabb was a value type pick. I was going to draft Cutler but, I believe, they either had the same bye week he was taken before I could get him. I only drafted McNabb to use him when Rivers has a bye week in week 6 (kinda right off the bat). And if McNabb can do ANYTHING...he'd be good trade bait. Obviously Rivers starts every week.

As for the Pats...I think they have huge upside this year. And facing the Dolphins and Bills twice a year is a plus. And I took the Cowboysas a value pick also. If Ryan can whip them into shape...then they could be worth keeping. And if both defenses are good...I like playing matchups like I would do with pitchers in baseball.

And if you saw our RB options...you'd KNOW that there is NOBODY available. Not even a worthy flier.

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Posted: 8/23/2011 4:27:07 PM
AndI don't need wideout help. 4 of my 7 bench players are wide recievers. And I don't plan on benching Megatron or Dez this season. And if Julio play like he should...then I may just be playing matchups between him and Amendola. And if Julio isn't what he is...than Harry Douglas gets some more value.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 4:51:06 PM

these fucktards don't realize it was a 14 team league...much different than a 12 team even with just two teams involved...

 

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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:01:39 PM
Now I wonder how these teams would have looked with 16 teams
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:12:04 PM
QUOTE class="Apple-style-span" size="2"> Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

I understand what you're saying about kickers. But defenses are kind of a big deal. Defenses are going to get your team more points than most of your bench players. Once you pick your starters...the rest of the draft is trying to find depth and sleepers.

As for the guys being drafted who aren't in the league...well I can't tell you what the deal with Jamoaks is. He drafted Nathan in baseball last year (Tommy John) and Wainwright this year (Tommy John). He has a habbit with that. And as for Moss...that was clearly a joke.

We all know that the draft is just a casualty. You know there will be starting calibur players on the waiver wire throughout the season. There's always a hot pickup after every week.


I explained this in Phillys thread but going to go more in depth on it in here.  You are correct defenses can score a lot of points for you, but most defenses are going to score decent points almost every week so the difference between the first defense (PITT taken in the 4th round before he even had a RB I believe) and the defense drafted last is going to be a much less in points over the season than the RB that could've been drafted in the 4th and the defense that could've been drafted in the second to last  or last round.

Here is a list of the defenses that got drafted early (the points represent last years season points according to ESPN):
Pitt 4th round = 188 points
NYJ 6th round = 158 points
NYG 7th round = 132 points
GB 6th round = 166 points
NE 7th round = 159 points 
BALT 8th round = 138 points
PHIL 8th round = 130 points
CHI 9th round = 150 points

Now for instance, Oakland (ranked 14th by ESPN) didn't even get drafted in this league I think scored 142 points in ESPN standard scoring last year.  They outscored a couple of these teams, barely scored less than most of the others and was only 46 points (2.8 points per week) behind the #1 DEF PITT who was drafted in the 4th round.  The amount of guys that were available in the 4th round (Felix Jones, Moreno, Best, the list goes on and on) are going to far more outscore the guys that are available in the second to last and last round most likely.  I'm not saying to draft Oakland in every league but they were just an example of a team that could've been available.  

Not trying to bash and wish you all great success this year but trying to let you understand our viewpoint and hopefully this gives you a little insight into what I'm trying to say.  As for kickers, it's even less of a difference from top to bottom which is why for no reason they should ever be anything but your last or second to last pick (and I believe 3 teams currently have 2 kickers). 
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:19:08 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by powerade:

these fucktards don't realize it was a 14 team league...much different than a 12 team even with just two teams involved...

 


In a deeper league (yours being 14 makes it even harder), the amount of starting RB/WR available is more scarce making it more important to stockpile them instead of drafting K and DEF.  Again, not trying to bash you or start a fight so lets try and keep the name calling out of it.  There are 14 teams so only 14 DEF need to start but because there are 14 teams each needing 2 RB (28 starters) and 3 WR (42 starters) that makes it a lot harder to find starters off of only 32 teams that are going to produce compared to just 1 of 32 DEF.

I do understand during an online draft the clock starts ticking and you just have to grab someone but still no need to grab a K or a guy not even in the league.  

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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:21:04 PM
What is all this talk about defense and kickers? Pretty sure i drafted studs at both positions .
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:21:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

Now I wonder how these teams would have looked with 16 teams

Yah the max I've played in is 12 and never thought I would want to play in one with more but seems like fun after looking through this.  16 could have 4 leagues of 4 would and would be fun.  If you guys want to add 2 next year, I've always wanted to jump into a league with you covers guys.  You guys seem to have a lot of fun with it.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:23:41 PM

Everyone and i mean EVERYONE has their own opinion to how to draft and run their own team. Not one person is correct and if you are i expect you to win the league every single year. If a guy drafts a defense in the top 5 rounds he clearly likes the strategy of having a top defense and hoping on 10+ points a week from that team.

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#112
Posted: 8/23/2011 5:25:40 PM

I don't see any value in the RBs on the market to make "depth".

Darren Sproles? Jerome Harrison? Jason Snelling? Toby Gerhart? Donald Brown?

None

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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:25:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by JW1LS:


Yah the max I've played in is 12 and never thought I would want to play in one with more but seems like fun after looking through this.  16 could have 4 leagues of 4 would and would be fun.  If you guys want to add 2 next year, I've always wanted to jump into a league with you covers guys.  You guys seem to have a lot of fun with it.

Exactly how this league was setup to begin with. 16 teams 4 divisions. Had a couple clowns back out on me last minute and had to cut it to 14. People who knew they were not going to be in and instead of giving me a heads up decided to wait until day before draft before saying something. Gotta love it.

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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:26:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ManRam24:

What is all this talk about defense and kickers? Pretty sure i drafted studs at both positions .

Which team was yours ManRam?  I think there were 2 that didn't say whose team it was.  I like the team that drafted 1st if that was you (having the 1st pick doesn't hurt).
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:29:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ManRam24:

Exactly how this league was setup to begin with. 16 teams 4 divisions. Had a couple clowns back out on me last minute and had to cut it to 14. People who knew they were not going to be in and instead of giving me a heads up decided to wait until day before draft before saying something. Gotta love it.


Damn, I wish I would've jumped into the football threads last week instead of this week.  Like I said if you want to bump it back up next year would love to jump in.  I do understand drafting in a 14-16 team league makes it a lot harder on you especially during an online draft (would be fun to try out).
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:31:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by JW1LS:


Which team was yours ManRam?  I think there were 2 that didn't say whose team it was.  I like the team that drafted 1st if that was you (having the 1st pick doesn't hurt).

My team is the one that says manram24 over it

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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:38:22 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ManRam24:

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1. (5) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
2. (24) Drew Brees (NO - QB)
3. (33) Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
4. (52) Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR)
5. (61) Brandon Marshall (Mia - WR)
6. (80) Jahvid Best (Det - RB)
7. (89) Reggie Bush (Mia - RB)
8. (108) Brandon Jacobs (NYG - RB)
9. (117) James Jones (GB - WR)
10. (136) Steve Smith (Phi - WR)
11. (145) Ronnie Brown (Phi - RB)
12. (164) Kendall Hunter (SF - RB)
13. (173) DeMarco Murray (Dal - RB)
14. (192) Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
15. (201) Andre Roberts (Ari - WR)
16. (220) Randy Moss (Ten - WR)

DUHH 

Grabbing Best at 80 could be one of the steals of the draft (if he can stay healthy which is always a ?? with him).  Then getting Bush and Jacobs after that to add to that depth is also good.  Hopefully, Maclin can get healthy and Marshall bounces back a little and either Jones or Nelson should step up in GB.  I like it 
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:43:14 PM
he STOLE bush from me
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:43:42 PM
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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:51:16 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ManRam24:

Everyone and i mean EVERYONE has their own opinion to how to draft and run their own team. Not one person is correct and if you are i expect you to win the league every single year. If a guy drafts a defense in the top 5 rounds he clearly likes the strategy of having a top defense and hoping on 10+ points a week from that team.

Actually...I am correct and I will win the regular season AND Playoff with EASE.

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Posted: 8/23/2011 5:59:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

Actually...I am correct and I will win the regular season AND Playoff with EASE.

Off to do another load of laundry after shitting myself once again after one of sparkys dumb behind comments

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Posted: 8/23/2011 7:08:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ManRam24:

Off to do another load of laundry after shitting myself once again after one of sparkys dumb behind comments

Dumb behind...maybe.

Classic...you bet your behind

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