Should a penalty decide a championship?

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Allbutbroke PM Allbutbroke
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Posted: 6/12/2012 8:11:22 PM
In addition, check wagerline.  Ran 10 straight winners of which 7 were hockey.  Got my Covers hat in the mail last week - which is appreciated.  Not nearly as good as many others but I challenge you since you are the self declared master.
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:53:02 PM
You will never win in an argument with him

Just drop it not even worth it....
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LeRinkRat PM LeRinkRat
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Posted: 6/12/2012 11:03:09 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:

You will never win in an argument with him

Just drop it not even worth it....

Db, arguing with people like  Allbutbroke is like trying to play chess with a pigeon. the pigeon  knock over thechess pieces, craps on the board and then struts around like it's won  

Allbutbroke PM Allbutbroke
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Posted: 6/13/2012 7:55:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

Db, arguing with people like  Allbutbroke is like trying to play chess with a pigeon. the pigeon  knock over thechess pieces, craps on the board and then struts around like it's won  

You don't know me at all - but you are welcome to your opinion.  I welcome you to explain where I am wrong.

 

Thanks Hookem

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Posted: 6/13/2012 1:53:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Dangerbay:

Devils got their fools kicked?  Why, what was the score before the controversy? 
first 10 minutes of the game was close. the rest was an behind kicking imo. 
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Posted: 6/13/2012 6:05:47 PM
The penalty was deserved.

The problem was a "missed call" on Gionta seconds before that.

Let me ask you, do you remember the last time a team scored 3 goals on a 5 minute PP?

Even if you think it should not have been 5 minutes, giving up 3 goals is ALL on New Jersey. They faltered. No excuses.
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Posted: 6/13/2012 10:41:11 PM
Amen wiggins.  To give up 3 PP's on the major is just a complete mental breakdown on the Devils part.
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Posted: 6/13/2012 11:08:57 PM
Well the NHL wanted to expand their hockey roots out West so they made sure there was no game 7.

Had the hit on gionta been called that 5 min PP never would've happened. But they of course missed that call.

Won't even get into that pick the ref set up for the other goal.

No sense in trying to change Kings backers minds, they won money and that's all that matter for them. 

Yes Devils lost first 3 to put themselves in a tough spot but they got robbed in game 6 no doubt about it.

But that's sports and sometimes that's how it goes.  With all the money going around in the sports industry who knows what's fixed and legit anymore.  

K you guys can flame me now
Lippsman PM Lippsman
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Posted: 6/13/2012 11:38:04 PM

Yeah both teams were paid off.  The Devils were robbed for giving up 3 PP goals on the major.

Kings still had to put the puck in the net and the Devils made it look easy.   The NHL set up every series for the Kings to win so the cup would be on the west coast.

Adjust your tin foil hat.

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Posted: 6/14/2012 4:58:28 AM
I was very excited for a close hockey game. maybe a few overtimes. So the refs miss the boarding penalty on Gionta that happened right in front of the benches and was pretty obvious and 10 seconds later Bernier gets a 5 minute major. If the refs call the gionta penalty right that scuderi play never happens as that would have been a dead puck. After watching that replay 30 times it became clear to me that Scuderi saw Bernier coming in like a bull and turned his back on the contact seemingly trying to draw a penalty. I know Scuderi from the days he used to play on apple core in NY and he grew up right down the road from me. If I see him I'll ask him if he baited that penalty on purpose and let you guys know. My guess is that he did. It worked....5 mnute major and your team scores 3 goals and you are fine to play a few shifts later. Worked out well for the kings. That penalty really did ruin the game for the casual fan though. I didn't give a garbage about either team and that penalty ruined what could have been an exciting game. Ya giving up 3 goals on a 5 minute major is weak, but thats how it goes sometimes. A lucky deflection thru the legs, a ridiculous tip out of martys glove, and a fluke bull dodge move by King that somehow had the puck squirt thru the crease where the devls own defensemen put it in i think. 
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Posted: 6/14/2012 10:57:56 AM
First goal won every game in this series as well as prob close to 100 % throughout the entire playoffsHow important is that first powerplay opportunity now? Regardless, no point in going over what is history now.  King fans have been starved for 45 years and i know they have dedicated fans as i read Rich Hammond's blog as well as a few others.  People who say no one cares are wrong.  A lot of King fans are very hockey savvy and passionate and deserve this victory.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 1:34:22 PM
You can argue about it all you want, but the bottom line is that there were missed calls and badcalls on both sides, and the kings were the best team in the playoffs and deserved the cup.   by the way debeors comments when asked about the call were as classy as you get.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 6:47:46 AM
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:22:06 AM
If there was a penalty then it needs to be called no matter the situation. If a foul is a foul the first 30 seconds of a basketball game, then it should be a foul in the last 30 seconds. Same goes for hockey.

 Im not saying the Kings dont deserve to win . Or that the Devils didnt deserve that penelty,My point is that the ruling on a 5min  major is terrible .That ruling not like any other in sports .can change and affect a whole game,tremendously..To have to play shorthanded for that amount of time,even after a score,to me is too much of an advantage for the opposing team.I just dont think a foul or a penalty in any sport should have the potential to change the game totally. And that one  could of changed more than a game it could of changed the whole series . Its just one of the many reasons ,why the game is still  behind the other major sports.

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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:55:10 AM

If you didn't have a 5 minute major call, then it would be open season on all sorts of injuries. Anyone that knows anything about hockey knows that it is a very rare call that is deserved when it is dished out. 

When players in other sports start playing at speeds of about 20 MPH there will be bigger penalties/fouls in those sports also for more severe, illegal hits.

 

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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:06:49 AM

Anyone who knows ANYTHING about NHL hockey knows that the Kings have had a solid D&G for several years and the buzz has always been that they could not score enough to keep up with OR pass the bigger NAME teams that get more respect... Well... The Kings have started to score also... so as long as they can continue to score they will NOW be on that list of big NAME teams... and currently they sit ATOP that list as SCChamps.

A penality did NOT decide this Championship... the Championship was won when the Kings found the ability to score and score as often as the needed to to win that Championship.

Have you forgotten that the Kings were 15-4 going into that last game... They didn't win all those games by waiting for a Powerplay... which was really not all that good anyway in these playoffs... I've seen much better from other teams in the past.

Or maybe you are referring to the McSorely illegal stick incident back in the 93 finals...???

If NJ had concetrated on trying to score and not on breaking someones face on the glass... maybe they could have forced a game 7... and still lost to a Kings team that went 10-1 on the road (and not 10-1 on gift calls on the road).

Other teams have killed off a 5 minute major in the past... If NJ was deserving of this championship then they could have killed it off and settled down to try and win that game 6.

Brodeur had an awful game 6... and that was a major factor in the NJ loss in the finals.

The Kings simply freight trained NJ on the scoreboard and in the game after that NJ player decided to frieght train that Kings players face into the glass.

Personally I'm still waiting for the suspension from the league. If he had done that to one of my team mates... I'd of had him eat the butt end of my stick.

I just read my post and saw that I used the same wording to start my post as did Lipps... Ha,ha,ha. Just a coincidence Lipps... I swear.

Skubishack PM Skubishack
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:18:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MTFN50:

 Im not saying the Kings dont deserve to win . Or that the Devils didnt deserve that penelty,My point is that the ruling on a 5min  major is terrible .That ruling not like any other in sports .can change and affect a whole game,tremendously..To have to play shorthanded for that amount of time,even after a score,to me is too much of an advantage for the opposing team.I just dont think a foul or a penalty in any sport should have the potential to change the game totally. And that one  could of changed more than a game it could of changed the whole series . Its just one of the many reasons ,why the game is still  behind the other major sports.

For the entire world ( with the exception of North America) "football" or as we know it... "soccer" is the most popular sport in the world...

They have this little thing called a RED CARD...

You might want to look that up and get back to us all.

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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:41:30 AM
No that hit was no way to decide the series but a guy lying there bleeding after a hit from behind is usually called a 5 and a game.  The Kings capitalized and got er done, even if wasn't pretty.  I mean that 3rd goal where brodeur miffed on that slow moving puck Got dangit that was brutal. 
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