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Posted: 2/5/2013 12:13:42 PM
Most sharps lose also bro, it's near impossible to beat the books. Niners are the better roster, but came out tight and the ravens targetted the worst player on the niner roster, culliver... whereas the niners waited until the 3rd qtr to start exploiting ray lewis. 
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Posted: 2/5/2013 12:54:15 PM

Allow me to propose a toast to all us clueless idiots who won.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 1:27:34 PM
Actually the public was heavy on 49ers on Sunday, which is when the public bets the majority of their bets. I would prove it to you, but I don't feel the need to keep typing when you post sh.it on here with no facts. You have no clue what you are talking about when you say smart money was on the 49ers. Lol, funny guy.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 1:58:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by CaliSurferDude:

I have seen some discussion by several on this forum, who mistakenly seem to believe the "smart money" was on the Ravens in the Super Bowl. That was absolutely NOT the case. The public was on Baltimore from two Sundays ago, shortly after the line was first put out, and continued betting them in large percentages for most of the next two weeks. The majority of smart money took San Francisco - 3 (bought the hook) and took -170 and -175, on the ML. They were waiting to see if the public would possibly drive it all the way down to - 3 (or 3.5 with less juice), but when that never happened, they came in and took more very late, laying the - 3.5 and - 4. To believe the smart money was on Baltimore in this game, is misinformed.

Now as to the game, the 49ers came were not very sharp (gotta put much of that on Jim Harbaugh) to start the game and got rattled after falling behind, and then the referees took over the rest of the game. This was one of the most lopsidedly officiated games in NFL history. From the beginning, through the 49ers comeback, and right up to the very end, key calls (and non-calls) repeatedly favored the Baltimore Ravens. The refs repeatedly hampered San Francisco's chances in a close game, by blowing these calls, right up to the blatant non-call on Jimmy Smith riding/holding/mugging (call it whatever you want) Michael Crabtree for an extended time, two full yards into the endzone (7 yards past the line of scrimmage). Say what you want, but there undoubtedly was plenty of blatant holding on that play, that clearly should have been called. It would have been first and goal at the 2 1/2-yard line. The playcalling by Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh on the last four plays was odious also. How you don't give the ball to Gore, or run a couple read-options for Kaepernick, after that drive - against a tired defense missing one of it's key players (Ngota) - will never be properly explained. Then again, that's a whole other story.


I'm not sure where you got your information about"smart money," but Stucky, CharlotteSports and the man himself BigEastExpert (who ended up 11-3 in the palyoffs and Super Bowl) were all on Ravens and frankly, they're as smart as they come.  I'll take BigEastExpert's pics over anyone's.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by incognegro:



I'm not sure where you got your information about"smart money," but Stucky, CharlotteSports and the man himself BigEastExpert (who ended up 11-3 in the palyoffs and Super Bowl) were all on Ravens and frankly, they're as smart as they come.  I'll take BigEastExpert's pics over anyone's.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:21:12 PM
To the few of the considerably less informed and less sophisticated members who replied in a low-class manner (obviously no surprise at all here ), I repeat: the "smart money" took the 49ers in this year's Super Bowl. You may not know what that means, but that's okay.

The smart money does not always win. Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman had bad games, Kaepernick made a couple mistakes, and the referees were EXTREMELY HEAVILY one-sided in favor of the Ravens in the game. The 49ers lost the game.

Also, in my original post, along with the other numbers I mentioned, I meant to say that the smart money laid -170 and -175 (AND MORE). The majority of "public money" was on the Ravens for the two weeks leading up to the game, the larger bets steamed the 49ers at various points. Like I said, no surprise at all, I was expecting replies from many of the kids here. To those that replied in a more mature fashion, in agreement and with opposing opinons, thanks for the replies!

I won't be replying again in this thread.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:42:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by CaliSurferDude:

To the few of the considerably less informed and less sophisticated members who replied in a low-class manner (obviously no surprise at all here ), I repeat: the "smart money" took the 49ers in this year's Super Bowl. You may not know what that means, but that's okay.

The smart money does not always win. Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman had bad games, Kaepernick made a couple mistakes, and the referees were EXTREMELY HEAVILY one-sided in favor of the Ravens in the game. The 49ers lost the game.

Also, in my original post, along with the other numbers I mentioned, I meant to say that the smart money laid -170 and -175 (AND MORE). The majority of "public money" was on the Ravens for the two weeks leading up to the game, the larger bets steamed the 49ers at various points. Like I said, no surprise at all, I was expecting replies from many of the kids here. To those that replied in a more mature fashion, in agreement and with opposing opinons, thanks for the replies!

I won't be replying again in this thread.


Wow....

So you still think you were on the "smart" side.

it was all the refs fault, I take it.

So I guess it's time to say...well done.  As you said, you lost, but at least you were on the "smart" side.  You can't win them all.

I think.



If you want a serious opinion, plenty of dumb bettors were on the Ravens.  But, the sharpest of the sharp were on the Ravens.  There's a lot of "smart" $, there's not a lot of "real smart" $.

That was the toughest f/ing call I made in all my years, to switch to the Ravens.

A lot of $ was on the line, considering how much I would have had left if I had lost.

I hope to be that lucky next time.  I might not be.

It's a hard game to figure sometimes, but that kind of challenge is what separates the best from the "smart".  IMO.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:45:48 PM
And yeah, you can make a case the 9ers were the smart side.  There's plenty of plays here and there.  Another catch and the 9ers could have won straight up.

But.....

Given all that.....

I still think the Ravens with the points was the smart side.

And whoever had the "over" may have been the "smartest".  Because that game flew over.  And so many people....including so many bookies with quotes...said the UNDER was the OVERWHELING smart side.  Remember that?!

Anyways....JMO.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:58:42 PM
Here's some quotes on the total courtesy of the Covers news article "Where the action is: Sharp money shrinks Super Bowl total"

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=304811

From the article:

We talk to Aron Black of online book Bet365.com and veteran oddsmaker Jimmy Vaccaro of William Hill Sportsbooks in Nevada about the adjustments to the Super Bowl total.

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"The move is more based on what sharps are betting, as many see this as more of a defensive battle, regardless of who wins,” Black told Covers

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“We are holding (at 47.5) because of the recreational bettors’ tendency to side with the favorite and the over. It’s not a bad idea to take all the under you can,” Vaccaro told Covers. “We are a little top heavy (on the under) but that difference will be gobbled up in a matter of a few hours come Sunday.”




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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:59:04 PM
Enough said.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 6:00:41 PM
other than that wasn't just the covers article.  people were being told to take the under because it was the sharp play in EVERY article that mentioned sharp/public i know of.

there was not one f****** article telling you to take the OVER. as far as i know.  maybe there was.

take it for what it's worth.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 6:04:43 PM
here's another article that was correct on the side.  just don't get to the bottom where this guy Cox from Peppermill tells you recreational bettors and big bettors on gameday are taking the over.

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=305624

The betting public is finally having its say after sharps jumped on the Ravens in the two weeks prior to the Big Game. San Francisco, which was as low as a 3-point favorite, is now as large as -4.5 at some books.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 6:05:08 PM
i guess you're done with the thread cali so it's my f****** thread now
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Posted: 2/5/2013 6:09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliSurferDude:

I have seen some discussion by several on this forum, who mistakenly seem to believe the "smart money" was on the Ravens in the Super Bowl. That was absolutely NOT the case. The public was on Baltimore from two Sundays ago, shortly after the line was first put out, and continued betting them in large percentages for most of the next two weeks. The majority of smart money took San Francisco - 3 (bought the hook) and took -170 and -175, on the ML. They were waiting to see if the public would possibly drive it all the way down to - 3 (or 3.5 with less juice), but when that never happened, they came in and took more very late, laying the - 3.5 and - 4. To believe the smart money was on Baltimore in this game, is misinformed.

Now as to the game, the 49ers came were not very sharp (gotta put much of that on Jim Harbaugh) to start the game and got rattled after falling behind, and then the referees took over the rest of the game. This was one of the most lopsidedly officiated games in NFL history. From the beginning, through the 49ers comeback, and right up to the very end, key calls (and non-calls) repeatedly favored the Baltimore Ravens. The refs repeatedly hampered San Francisco's chances in a close game, by blowing these calls, right up to the blatant non-call on Jimmy Smith riding/holding/mugging (call it whatever you want) Michael Crabtree for an extended time, two full yards into the endzone (7 yards past the line of scrimmage). Say what you want, but there undoubtedly was plenty of blatant holding on that play, that clearly should have been called. It would have been first and goal at the 2 1/2-yard line. The playcalling by Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh on the last four plays was odious also. How you don't give the ball to Gore, or run a couple read-options for Kaepernick, after that drive - against a tired defense missing one of it's key players (Ngota) - will never be properly explained. Then again, that's a whole other story.

Not sure I have seen a more "lopsidedly" bad post from start to finish in recent memory.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by CaliSurferDude:

To the few of the considerably less informed and less sophisticated members who replied in a low-class manner (obviously no surprise at all here ), I repeat: the "smart money" took the 49ers in this year's Super Bowl. You may not know what that means, but that's okay.

The smart money does not always win. Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman had bad games, Kaepernick made a couple mistakes, and the referees were EXTREMELY HEAVILY one-sided in favor of the Ravens in the game. The 49ers lost the game.

Also, in my original post, along with the other numbers I mentioned, I meant to say that the smart money laid -170 and -175 (AND MORE). The majority of "public money" was on the Ravens for the two weeks leading up to the game, the larger bets steamed the 49ers at various points. Like I said, no surprise at all, I was expecting replies from many of the kids here. To those that replied in a more mature fashion, in agreement and with opposing opinons, thanks for the replies!

I won't be replying again in this thread.


You won't be replying b/c you have no argument.  The line came out and the "sharps" bet it down (See Budwiser's article links).

I follow quite a few great cappers on here and on other sites, and for the first time ever, I did not see one of them on the 49ers.  It was the only time I have ever seen that on any game and in any sport.  Again, BigEastExpert is as "sharp" as they come. 
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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:00:53 PM
Perhaps this was the "sharp" money you were referring too?

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nfl/2013-02-01/super-bowl-betting-in-prison-49ers-vs-ravens-sheridan-oregon


Back up your statements with facts and articles to prove your assertions, or do not post something so ridiculous. 
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QUOTE Originally Posted by CaliSurferDude:

To the few of the considerably less informed and less sophisticated members who replied in a low-class manner (obviously no surprise at all here ), I repeat: the "smart money" took the 49ers in this year's Super Bowl. You may not know what that means, but that's okay.

The smart money does not always win. Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman had bad games, Kaepernick made a couple mistakes, and the referees were EXTREMELY HEAVILY one-sided in favor of the Ravens in the game. The 49ers lost the game.

Also, in my original post, along with the other numbers I mentioned, I meant to say that the smart money laid -170 and -175 (AND MORE). The majority of "public money" was on the Ravens for the two weeks leading up to the game, the larger bets steamed the 49ers at various points. Like I said, no surprise at all, I was expecting replies from many of the kids here. To those that replied in a more mature fashion, in agreement and with opposing opinons, thanks for the replies!

I won't be replying again in this thread.


Ohhh, now I get what you are saying, the smart money was on the 49ers, and the stupid, less informed, less sophisticated money was on the Ravens...NOW I get it.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:33:55 PM
Somebody with the screen name "CaliSurferDude"   calling other people "less informed and less sophisticated"

Like totally dude, surfs up!
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This is one of the most idiotic threads ever! The Ravens won the game fair and square. Let it go already. You guys lost this time around. Remember next year is a new season.
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