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Author:	[NFL Betting] Topic: Any one else wonder if JR's girlfriend shot him then call the cops?
Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#1 Posted: 5/3/2012 10:20:15 AM I know it sounds crazy but could be a possiblity and the cops still have not officially rule it a suicide
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gmitran	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1469 Location: Michigan	#2 Posted: 5/3/2012 11:51:08 AM I would think they did a gun-residue test on her hands.
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Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#3 Posted: 5/3/2012 12:10:54 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by gmitran: I would think they did a gun-residue test on her hands. yes but if she was wearing gloves and results would take time wont they .... Im just saying ... crazy to think he would kill himself being so loved
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HutchEmAll	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 34840 Location: Minnesota	#4 Posted: 5/3/2012 12:48:53 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Teaser78: yes but if she was wearing gloves and results would take time wont they .... Im just saying ... crazy to think he would kill himself being so loved This means nothing. Just ask Dungy's kid. For all practical purposes, he was a happy go lucky, God fearing student with everything going for him. I was listening to an interview with a former Viking linebacker today. He said it's quite an adjustment going from always being in the spot light to living a "typical" life. When you are playing, you have a support staff around you. The minute you mention something, you're off to get an MRI or be examined. People take care of you. When you retire, all that goes away. I don't know if he was involved in any businesses or other hobbies, but I'm guessing it would get awfully lonely / difficult to just sit around in your big house. He was divorced....didn't have custody of his kids. Maybe he was a lot more worse off than people ever knew (mentally.....in terms of happiness with his life). You just don't know. Could also have been a brain related issue (ie. due to the continuous pounding he took as a player). I just hope they find some clues as to what exactly happened and why it did.
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HutchEmAll	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 34840 Location: Minnesota	#5 Posted: 5/3/2012 12:50:08 PM And yes, it's possible his GF shot him. Anything is possible at this point.
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don juan	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3576 Location: Florida	#6 Posted: 5/3/2012 12:51:34 PM So how many people shoot themself in the chest ?
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Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#7 Posted: 5/3/2012 12:54:40 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan: So how many people shoot themself in the chest ? Im not an expert on the subject but I dont think that alot usually seem like a gun in the mouth .. imo
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THE-KID	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 4462 Location: South Carolina	#8 Posted: 5/3/2012 1:31:07 PM They must know something to have lead with suicide as the cause. No need for them to assume that unless they were fairly certain.
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Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#9 Posted: 5/3/2012 1:38:34 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by THE-KID: They must know something to have lead with suicide as the cause. No need for them to assume that unless they were fairly certain. true but they have not made an unofficial ruling and its been almost 24hrs ... and if he has gun residue on his hands makes it pretty simple dont you think ...hmmmmm
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shrimp1958	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 39329 Location: Maryland	#10 Posted: 5/3/2012 1:50:13 PM He played with an unreal motor..great OLB...Me and my buddies thought the same thing about shooting himself in the chest...Mouth/Head the most common spots..less chance of survival....Sad day in PFB...
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HutchEmAll	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 34840 Location: Minnesota	#11 Posted: 5/3/2012 2:14:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan: So how many people shoot themself in the chest ? Dave Duerson did. They must know something to have lead with suicide as the cause. No need for them to assume that unless they were fairly certain. ___________ They said they were investigating it as a suicide. I'm sure that was decided based on what they saw at the scene initially. But we all know that could change depending on what the evidence says. Very similar to Zimmerman. His case was originally looked at as a case of self defense. Now they have filed 2nd degree murder charges. I'd say their initial determination is right more than it's wrong, but you never know.
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bookieassassin	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 4570 Location: Texas	#12 Posted: 5/3/2012 2:24:37 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan: So how many people shoot themself in the chest ? so his kids/family don't have to see him (or not) with his face blown off.....a "considerate".....less messy way to do it
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Daywalker331	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: JustBet.cx \|
Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 1063 Location: Connecticut	#13 Posted: 5/3/2012 5:07:42 PM BTW in case you guy's forgot JR just finished driving his car off a CLIFF!!!! I think that was his first attempt at suicide they called it a accident but doesn't look like that now!!
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mainmanmainman2	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4309 Location: Antarctica	#14 Posted: 5/3/2012 5:17:41 PM
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Captain Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 7419 Location: New York	#15 Posted: 5/3/2012 8:48:45 PM RIP, Great player
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bigfrank777	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Rookie Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 871 Location: Vietnam	#16 Posted: 5/3/2012 11:24:44 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan: So how many people shoot themself in the chest ? my take would be just like duerson he wanted to keep his head in tact so they could possibly do studyon the famous head injury incurred in football careers great personnand a wonderfull football player he will be missed
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Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#17 Posted: 5/4/2012 11:01:30 AM ITS OFFICIAL ... RULED A SUICIDE ... POOR FAMILY MY PRAYERS GOES OUT TO HIS WHOLE FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS ... GREAT PLAYER ALWAYS A JOY TO WATCH ... GAVE US FANS ALOT OF YEARS OF GREAT FOOTBALL
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detroitlionsfan	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 800 Location:	#18 Posted: 5/4/2012 5:37:36 PM possible suiides are almost always murders
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Killer_B	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3194 Location: Arizona	#19 Posted: 5/5/2012 1:13:49 AM They can tell easily how far the gun was from him when he was shot. If someone was going to kill this man they'd obviously do it from far away. My guess is they determined very quickly he inflicted the damage on himself (which would likely be quite obvious). Sad story and a sad ending. He has a Mother/Father and 3 kids.
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thisguyiswise	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 6852 Location: Wisconsin	#20 Posted: 5/5/2012 3:19:28 AM i do remember that cliff story with him driving his car off it...major red flag there i guess pretty open and shut case it seems, heard the 911 call from the gf, she would have had to be the best actress in the world if she did it...far from the boxer's wife with gatti who died.
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Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#21 Posted: 5/7/2012 12:24:20 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Killer_B: They can tell easily how far the gun was from him when he was shot. If someone was going to kill this man they'd obviously do it from far away. My guess is they determined very quickly he inflicted the damage on himself (which would likely be quite obvious). Sad story and a sad ending. He has a Mother/Father and 3 kids. I hear what your saying but a gf can get close enough to kill him from up close just saying we know its not the case ...
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The Hawk	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sports Interaction \|
All-Star Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12124 Location: California	#22 Posted: 5/7/2012 7:42:23 PM Doubt a GF could just walk up to him and pull the trigger...........
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Teaser78	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 12890 Location: New Jersey	#23 Posted: 5/8/2012 11:42:10 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by The Hawk: Doubt a GF could just walk up to him and pull the trigger........... why not?
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The Hawk	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sports Interaction \|
All-Star Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12124 Location: California	#24 Posted: 5/8/2012 5:20:03 PM You're kidding, right? Your girlfiend walks up to you with a shotgun and puts it to your chest, are you telling me you don't make any move whatsoever?
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bigdaddyhpd	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 8198 Location: Hawaii	#25 Posted: 5/8/2012 9:42:59 PM RIP JR Seau He did have domestics in the past but no one really knows except for whoever pulled the trigger. Great player but sad way to go....he will be missed.
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