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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:23:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by capdatazz:

Its so preposterous to think professional games are fixed.  Just absolutely retarded.

You have athletes and coaches making millions a year, why would they risk that and lose their whole careers?

yes in a blue moon you'll have a Donaughy or some college kids from a small school on the take, but the repurcussions are severe its not worth it if you get caught.  

In proessional American sports to assume that games are fixed because you perceive something as fishy because you were on the losing side makes you an idiot.


Actually Its more preposterous and retarded to think its not fixed.
Especially with everything available online about alleged fixes and proven facts about a few that actually took place.

People who come down on those who believe the games arent what they appear to be do not want to admit that there beloved sport is tainted, well boo friggin hoo, get a grip on reality, Its not about you or what you want, as the cliche goes that these dumb behind athletes use all the time
IT IS WHAT IT IS
So accept it or continue to live your life with blinders on, the choice is yours but watch your mouth when you try and tell people what they should or shouldnt think regarding any matter especially one that has been proven on many levels.
We are not here to satisfy your need for a fair and square game, thats little league son. 
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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:29:02 AM
...Guess what ? all the the GUY bet on the " right side "  of the FIXED keep their mouth shut for 75+ years ( in the NFL ) 


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LMAO ! Fixed or not ...you're still PLACE YOUR BET on the next game ! 
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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:32:48 AM
And thats what the game is about, Being on the right side of the fix.
Thats why I and others like me still bet to be on the right side of the fix, that doesnt mean we dismiss it as if it doesnt exist or chastise those of us who arent sheep.
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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:39:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso:

And thats what the game is about, Being on the right side of the fix.
Thats why I and others like me still bet to be on the right side of the fix, that doesnt mean we dismiss it as if it doesnt exist or chastise those of us who arent sheep.

So...at the end of the game ( after the final whistle ) the balance in YOUR ACCOUNT is matter... right ?

Let's they FIXED the game !!! 

If your BET ( wager ) win ...you're on the RIGHT side 

If you LOSE ...F'k it - MOVE ON 
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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:46:09 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by JNguyenCali:


So...at the end of the game ( after the final whistle ) the balance in YOUR ACCOUNT is matter... right ?

Let's they FIXED the game !!! 

If your BET ( wager ) win ...you're on the RIGHT side 

If you LOSE ...F'k it - MOVE ON 

Damn Right My Vietnamese Brother.

and to all those who arent down with that
I got one word for them
DOMA
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Posted: 10/10/2012 4:06:50 AM
Du Ma is right man!!!!!!!!!!  LOL 
Fuckkin games are fixed and it so obvious. Its just entertainment and it always comes down to the money.. always.
Thats why Seattle gets the call for TD and the books collect millions off GreenBay wagers.  We all saw that interception.
Ur really blind and just dont want to admit games can and are fixed.. but I will say it again- it comes down to the Money

Du Ma!!!!! 
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Posted: 10/10/2012 4:18:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

Well many of them seem to have no issue risking it by carrying firearms, using firearms, stabbing people, punching out people in bars/strip clubs, driving intoxicated regularly, consuming recreational drugs, driving around with recreational drugs in their vehicles, selling recreational drugs, consuming steroids and rape/statutory rape. Many of them get caught and/or get away with this kind of stuff all the time. If they will risk their careers by the partaking in any of the aforementioned with all except for selling drugs having only risk with no monetary reward, then why is it crazy to think they would risk it for very high reward with very little risk of getting caught? Money only makes you want more money. It is also way easier to drop a sure touchdown in the end zone without suspicion, then it is to convince a jury the guns and blow found in your car when you got pulled over driving around drunk with a prostitute in your were found on the street and you were just driving them to the police station to turn it all on.

In a nutshell you're giving them WAY too much credit. Not saying it happens or not but saying they would not risk it for large coin is crazy.

If it does happen though it is the league itself orchestrating it just as it happened/happens in the NBA. When a billion dollar t.v market starts losing interest because there team/s suck then there are billions of reasons for these leagues to orchestrate peoples happiness in different regions.






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Posted: 10/10/2012 7:13:08 AM
I didn't bet on the MNF game.

You can't allow a good football team in the Houston Texans hammer the garbage out of an understrength (and bad) team in the NY Jets in that Prime Time spot.

If Houston leads 24-7 at halftime then scores first in the second half...no one watches the game......except the gamblers......wait a second......ratings and bets in the balance
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Posted: 10/10/2012 7:17:16 AM
Prime Time TV football .....A graveyard for laying the wood with heavily favoured teams.
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Posted: 10/10/2012 7:51:41 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso:

The NBA was never fixed either, No rogue officials nothing of a sort.
darn OFF
and this goes to all you morons who do not believe the NFL and All major sports are on the up and up.'
Who the hell are you ignorant imbeciles to make such statements when there is proof that things arent exactly what they seem?

You all have a-lot of balls to call others names when you dont know your own fools from a hole in the ground to begin with.

You like all sheep dismiss the obvious to remain with your flock of idiots and cowards.

You have no ability to think outside the box, nor do you intend to comprehend factual data spanning from the early 70s to todays modern era.

Dan Moldea wrote one of the greatest books regarding the NFL and its fixed games called INTERFERENCE, How Organized crime influences professional football

Brian Touhay
has a website called thefixisin.net where he highlights what he believes are fixes.

Tim Donaghy an NBA referee was caught fixing games.

in 1999 there was a U of M blind study of College football referees that admitted they had a financial interest on games they worked, and no Im not gonna look it up for you as if you are dumb enough to believe its all on the up and up, You do not deserve someone to do the work for you, Go friggin do it yourself and become less of a sheep and a little bit more of a wolf.

God Damn I hate some of you so much when you post and respond so stupidly, Nothing more Id love to do then club you in your smug faces with a baseball bat and scramble your brain cells so you stop being pathetic followers and become somewhat like real men, Maybe then your women wont be coming to my place and others like me to get there rocks off.

In other words
Be friggin men and stop being the meak of the earth.

Lol, who the darn are you on here. John gotti ?   Easy killer , if they're fixed, just Bet the Vegas side, and you will never lose
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Posted: 10/10/2012 9:00:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Fordawg99:


Lol, who the darn are you on here. John gotti ?   Easy killer , if they're fixed, just Bet the Vegas side, and you will never lose


Man, I wish it was that easy.  We all do. 

There's proof.  There's admission.  There's evidence, etc.......  so the fact that some sports events are influenced by someone/something other than the actual participants, is no longer debatable.  It is what it is.

The problem we as gamblers have is spotting them.  Most of the time, it's almost impossible to detect before the game.  That's why Vegas wins in the long run.  To think that they don't control the outcome of certain games is just plain delusional.   There is no way that their investment is going to be left to chance.  No way!
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Posted: 10/10/2012 9:14:17 AM

The Green Bay at Seattle game on MNF.  The Green bay touchdown drive in the 4th quater that gave the Packer the lead in the game was kept alive by 4 penalties on Seattle.  2 of which were PI.  This is with 6 minutes left in the game. 

If I were a ref being paid by the mob to make sure Green Bay covers, Why in the darn would keep their 4th quater drive alive, just to hope that Russell Wilson can get the ball back, get 5 first downs (which he couldn't do all game) drive down the field and get close enough to throw a hail mary, then hope it is caught by two people with time expiring so I can make a bad call against Green Bay to make up for the Bad calls against Seattle.  Wouldn't I have just stalled the Packers previous drive, so that I wouldn't have to put myself in position to hope for a hail mary simultanous catch in the end zone!  Give me a fuckin break, That is a terrible way to fix a game. 

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Posted: 10/10/2012 9:34:05 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Fordawg99:

The Green Bay at Seattle game on MNF.  The Green bay touchdown drive in the 4th quater that gave the Packer the lead in the game was kept alive by 4 penalties on Seattle.  2 of which were PI.  This is with 6 minutes left in the game. 

If I were a ref being paid by the mob to make sure Green Bay covers, Why in the darn would keep their 4th quater drive alive, just to hope that Russell Wilson can get the ball back, get 5 first downs (which he couldn't do all game) drive down the field and get close enough to throw a hail mary, then hope it is caught by two people with time expiring so I can make a bad call against Green Bay to make up for the Bad calls against Seattle.  Wouldn't I have just stalled the Packers previous drive, so that I wouldn't have to put myself in position to hope for a hail mary simultanous catch in the end zone!  Give me a fuckin break, That is a terrible way to fix a game. 



Why do you assume that, that game was influenced by the NFL?

To me, that was just poor reffing, or a ref being on the take knowing his days as and NFL ref were numbered.  A very nice opportunity for the guy to make a little extra money.

Remember, not every game is influenced by others.  Just the ones that they need to be.  You can't fix every game.  Just just unrealistic!
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Posted: 10/10/2012 9:39:06 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Fordawg99:

The Green Bay at Seattle game on MNF.  The Green bay touchdown drive in the 4th quater that gave the Packer the lead in the game was kept alive by 4 penalties on Seattle.  2 of which were PI.  This is with 6 minutes left in the game. 

If I were a ref being paid by the mob to make sure Green Bay covers, Why in the darn would keep their 4th quater drive alive, just to hope that Russell Wilson can get the ball back, get 5 first downs (which he couldn't do all game) drive down the field and get close enough to throw a hail mary, then hope it is caught by two people with time expiring so I can make a bad call against Green Bay to make up for the Bad calls against Seattle.  Wouldn't I have just stalled the Packers previous drive, so that I wouldn't have to put myself in position to hope for a hail mary simultanous catch in the end zone!  Give me a fuckin break, That is a terrible way to fix a game. 

Not saying it was the case, but it actually would be the perfect way to fix the game. It gives people the ability to think like you are on the matter yet they still get their outcome. Just playing devils advocate
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Posted: 10/10/2012 9:56:27 AM
The NFL nor it's referees ever explained why this td did not count at the end of the game. It was a 10 yard lateral so it was super clear that it was a live ball and that fact was backed up the referees not blowing the whistle and allowing the td. The td did not change the outcome of the game but did cover the spread for steelers backers as the steelers were 4 point faves.

After the td the refs got together and for a mysterious reason no one knows, and one that was never given despite the public demanding one, the td was erased and never counted towards the final score as the refs hurried off the field. The public in the game was heavily on the side of the Steelers who because of this unexplained, nonsensical event failed to cover the betting spread.

It was a td 100%. There is zero argument to say it was not and therefore one was never even offered by the league or its officials. So I ask the people that say anyone who thinks games are tampered with are crazy, to please explain these events. I'm sorry but there is only one sensible conclusion here in my opinion. If there was another sensible one, then surely the league would have offered it. All they ever said was oops! I do not want to hear they blew the call, they know the rules, it was as very basic play and everyone including them knew it was a clear td.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVtlJgt_8FY

  The spread covering touchdown that magically never happened, after it actually did happen. 
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Posted: 10/10/2012 10:09:59 AM

Here's 3 games to consider.

Last year right after Al Davis died The Raiders won the game on a last second TD over Houston - then proceeded to lose 8 games in a row

Last weekend Colt's coach was diagnosed with Leukemia.

The Packers were ahead 21-3 The Colts come back and beat them .??????

Super Bowl III

Jets and Namath over The undefeated Colt's which put the AFL on the Map.

In case you are to young to remember

http://forums.utsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=74475

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:46:56 PM
Gotta agree w/ Sharps. As I said earlier, commisioners will exert their influence, Tim Donaghees (sp.) will come & go... it's naive to think that EVERYTHING is on the up-and-up, but it's even more ridiculous to believe that there's a widespread network of multi-millionaire athletes actively fixing pro sports on a regular basis and that NONE of them snitch! Ray Lewis ratted out his own "boys" for murder, Canseco ratted on PED's, Jamal Lewis, Nate Newton & Bam Morris, etc. all got caught selling drugs. Vick can't get away w/ dog fighting, for Christ's sake! To think that these criminal masterminds are out there fixing games on the reg under an iron-clad Omerta is LOL funny.  
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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:24:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by thawv:



Why do you assume that, that game was influenced by the NFL?

To me, that was just poor reffing, or a ref being on the take knowing his days as and NFL ref were numbered.  A very nice opportunity for the guy to make a little extra money.

Remember, not every game is influenced by others.  Just the ones that they need to be.  You can't fix every game.  Just just unrealistic!

I don't assume this game was influenced by the nfl.  I am just using this game as a case in point of why games aren't fixed.  I used this game because i remember everyone the Tuesday after crying fix fix.  Please don't cry fix when you make some square behind public consensus bet on the favorite during a prime t,e game


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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:28:44 PM

There are no fixes in the NFL. 

There is no such thing as the mafia-la costra nostra either. 

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:30:41 PM
How dumb are these idiots in this thread talking about how they know the games and leagues are all fixed yet. . . . . . . . They still watch and, even more stupid, STILL BET ON IT!!!!

You cant make up how dumb these guys are
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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:36:04 PM
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How dumb are these idiots in this thread talking about how they know the games and leagues are all fixed yet. . . . . . . . They still watch and, even more stupid, STILL BET ON IT!!!!

You cant make up how dumb these guys are

When you walk into a casino, all those games are basically fixed. 

Do you play?

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:40:32 PM
The rules of all those games are set up for you to lose, it's not the same thing at all. Just another horrible comparison from an uneducated person who thinks all the leagues are rigged. The intelligence level of all you people is just so pathetic
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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:47:23 PM
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The rules of all those games are set up for you to lose, it's not the same thing at all. Just another horrible comparison from an uneducated person who thinks all the leagues are rigged. The intelligence level of all you people is just so pathetic

So you are telling me that sport gambling is not set up for you to lose?  

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:49:28 PM
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The rules of all those games are set up for you to lose, it's not the same thing at all. Just another horrible comparison from an uneducated person who thinks all the leagues are rigged. The intelligence level of all you people is just so pathetic

It's all math smarty pants.  Do the math.  Let me know what you come up with genius. 

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:53:32 PM
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The rules of all those games are set up for you to lose, it's not the same thing at all. Just another horrible comparison from an uneducated person who thinks all the leagues are rigged. The intelligence level of all you people is just so pathetic

You also never answered my question. 

 I'm guessing you don't card or machine gamble since you are too smart to play those knowing it's fixed.

Or do you still gamble thinking that you might be the lucky one that day?

Oh gosh, almost sounds like most of us sport bettors.  Gamblers are such an optimistic bunch only when it comes to gambling. 

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