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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:48:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


I don't need to prove anything to you. The natural position is that god doesn't exist.

Whats the natural position?

90% of the world believe in a form of a deity...

Doesnt sound natural to me...

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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:50:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

Has anybody seen that skeptic crrecords?

Hey buddy got anymore verses in the bible that is too puzzling for you to interpret?

You know who to come to and ask for the right interpretation.

Don't feel bad because a lot of atheists like yourself who are not familiar with the bible have problems interpreting certain verses correctly.

It can be tricky if you just randomly pickout verses here and there without reading the entire book and in some cases previous books prior to the one you're reading.

But hey I'm here if you need help.

Bro, dont bother....I remember one of them got a quote that supposedly Jesus instructed his people to murder.....

I couldnt stop laughing .......The quote was talking about something the exact opposite....

 

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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:53:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

System, I dont have the answers, you ask him if you ever get to meet him,her or it.

Typical, instead of thinking about the questions, you'll just choose to believe just because it makes you feel better and you think you're covering your behind...

Until bozos like you can show me proof God doesnt exist, i choose to believe that he does exist.  And truthfully i dont give a damn if you dont believe, am not gonna lose 1 minute of sleep tonight.

Then why are you getting pissed off?

So show me the proof and not a bunch of man made bullshit that soem scientist tells you.

All you non believers keep babbling out of your mouths is, the believers have to show you proof he exists.

Heres the thing, we dont need to show you anything, now get lost

Problem is, you do, or STFU



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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:55:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

Whats the natural position?

90% of the world believe in a form of a deity...

Doesnt sound natural to me...


90% of the world once believed the world was flat, what's you point
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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:58:43 PM
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Do you believe in the theory of evolution?

Have you seen it happen in your own eyes? Has anyone seen it happen in their own, ie, ape like ancestors evolving into man?

Is the fossil record 100% unbroken which shows beyond any doubt how man evolved?

No it doesnt....So, because you dont have 100% proof, shouldnt you not believe it?

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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:00:08 AM

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Bro, dont bother....I remember one of them got a quote that supposedly Jesus instructed his people to murder.....

I couldnt stop laughing .......The quote was talking about something the exact opposite....

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I here ya! Misinterpretations happen a lot. It happened with this crrec dude.

He read this verse from the King James bible and interpreted the verse incorrectly and so I gave him the correct interpretation.

Oh well take care!

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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:00:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

Do you believe in the theory of evolution?

Have you seen it happen in your own eyes? Has anyone seen it happen in their own, ie, ape like ancestors evolving into man?

Is the fossil record 100% unbroken which shows beyond any doubt how man evolved?

No it doesnt....So, because you dont have 100% proof, shouldnt you not believe it?


I have 0% proof of a god...
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:09:36 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


90% of the world once believed the world was flat, what's you point

The majority of the world (which are believers) believed the universe began to exist. Majority of Atheists believed the universe was eternal.....

A case of the majority being right and the minority being wrong

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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:17:46 AM
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I have 0% proof of a god...

We have ZERO evidence something can come from nothing.

We have ZERO evidence that life can come from non life

We have ZERO evidence that the complexity of our cells can come together purely by the luck of nature...

We have a problem dont we......

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Posted: 7/20/2012 1:00:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

We have ZERO evidence something can come from nothing.

We have ZERO evidence that life can come from non life

We have ZERO evidence that the complexity of our cells can come together purely by the luck of nature...

We have a problem dont we......


no, not really...we don't know, what's the problem...
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Posted: 7/20/2012 1:59:37 AM

Come on system, answer Rostos questions.  You cant, thats why you will dance all around the questions.

Where is the proof that life came from non life?  Because some human scientist said so

your a joke system

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Posted: 7/20/2012 4:26:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Come on system, answer Rostos questions.  You cant, thats why you will dance all around the questions.

Where is the proof that life came from non life?  Because some human scientist said so

your a joke system


Funny how they get so defensive when we don't answer their questions, but they have no answers for all of ours.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 10:00:34 AM
Because He has given everyone of us free will to choose between doing righteousness or evil...sadly some people choose to do evil.
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Why would he do such a thing?  He created the heaven and earth.  He can do anything.  Is this just some sort of sick experiment?  So the guy who killed a bunch of people in the movie theater in Colorado goes to heaven if he believes in God.  Really?

Psychopaths don't have free will.  They are wired a particular way and they will NEVER change.  Fact. 

So in reality, we don't all have free will.  

What kind of a sadistic individual would do something like this to the human race?  Create it and then let them kill each other like no tomorrow.  Why???????
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Posted: 7/20/2012 10:34:50 AM

posted by sir john drake:   "god is not the author of evil"

The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than "bringing moral evil into existence" is in mind. (here is a prime example of John altering the text!)

 

The final version of God's Word is really found inside Sir John Drake's skull, he mentally rewrites the Bible, taking out the parts he does not like and inserting qualifiers to alter the text into something that conforms with his desires.

The bible is very clear that John's God is the author of evil.

Isaiah 45:7

King James Version (KJV)

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

I found a video of one of john's heroes the king of convoluted verbage:

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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:06:54 AM

Hey Kittykatz - What just went down at that Batman sceening....was what he did absolutely wrong?

By answering no, you admit, that in any world, it is possible what that what he did wasnt wrong......

The problems of atheism.....

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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:09:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

Because He has given everyone of us free will to choose between doing righteousness or evil...sadly some people choose to do evil.
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So EVERY SINGLE physocapth in the world goes out and kills?

Physocpaths KNOW that it is WRONG to kill...Every human is born with a cross. Its what you do with that coss.......


Why would he do such a thing?  He created the heaven and earth.  He can do anything.  Is this just some sort of sick experiment?  So the guy who killed a bunch of people in the movie theater in Colorado goes to heaven if he believes in God.  Really?

Psychopaths don't have free will.  They are wired a particular way and they will NEVER change.  Fact. 

So in reality, we don't all have free will.  

What kind of a sadistic individual would do something like this to the human race?  Create it and then let them kill each other like no tomorrow.  Why???????
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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:12:47 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Come on system, answer Rostos questions.  You cant, thats why you will dance all around the questions.

Where is the proof that life came from non life?  Because some human scientist said so

your a joke system


I did answer his question. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I never claimed I know how life startedYou're the one who is making claims, but can't back it up...

who is the joke?
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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:21:06 AM

am not making any claims and have repeatdly said, that i dont know which side is right.

I have said over and over again, i have no proof God exists, just like you have no proof God doesnt exist.  Just because you dont see or hear God, that doesnt mean thats your proof that your right.

 

Believe whatever you want to believe

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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:30:38 AM

Hutch, God doesnt want to control everything we say and do in life, what would be the purpose in creating everything.

In other words, if i had the power to create a whole world, i certainly wouldnt create humans that i controlled 100 percent.

What would be the purpose of me creating a human that does and says everything i want them to?  I would create humans with the ability to do whatever they want to do, that way they can solve their own problems and create their own fate in their lives.

This just my opinion based on, thats how i would create a world if i had the powers to do it. 

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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:34:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

am not making any claims and have repeatdly said, that i dont know which side is right.

I have said over and over again, i have no proof God exists, just like you have no proof God doesnt exist.  Just because you dont see or hear God, that doesnt mean thats your proof that your right.

 

Believe whatever you want to believe


god you are dense, I don't need proof...

and you believe what you want, but stop telling me I need proof, you sound ignorant...

invisible man on my shoulder bless you 
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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Hutch, God doesnt want to control everything we say and do in life, what would be the purpose in creating everything.

In other words, if i had the power to create a whole world, i certainly wouldnt create humans that i controlled 100 percent.

What would be the purpose of me creating a human that does and says everything i want them to?  I would create humans with the ability to do whatever they want to do, that way they can solve their own problems and create their own fate in their lives.

This just my opinion based on, thats how i would create a world if i had the powers to do it. 


As opposed to creating humans who like to kill their children?  I'd prefer to create ones that don't.  That's just me, though.  He can grant ever lasting life, but can't prevent someone from killing all his children?  Why?  What is the benefit to Him by creating human beings that like to kill each other?
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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:37 AM
So the massacre was a part of your friggin "god's" masterplan?
Or was it "free will"??? Whose "free will" then?
darn your "god" - hope he burns in hell - if it existed.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:48:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

Hey Kittykatz - What just went down at that Batman sceening....was what he did absolutely wrong?

By answering no, you admit, that in any world, it is possible what that what he did wasnt wrong......

The problems of atheism.....


What he did was not absolutely wrong. I will tell you that what he did is wrong. The United States of America will tell you that what he did is wrong. However, NO ONE can tell any of us for sure that he thinks what he did was wrong. And for all we know, there are people out there who agree with him. Even if every human being on the planet agrees that something is wrong, it is still not absolutely wrong, because we can conceive of a person who would think it is correct.

Morals are not absolute. They are relative. This is a fact. I have proven it over and over again. It is impossible to argue otherwise.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:57:03 PM

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I found a video of one of john's heroes the king of convoluted verbage:

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Give it up already...what's the matter are you a poor loser?

Get over it...you have misinterpreted Isaiah 45:7 and I gave you the right interpretation.

Humans sin and do evil wicked acts in disobedience of God's written laws and God justly punishes the evil.

 

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Posted: 7/20/2012 1:23:13 PM

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Psychopaths don't have free will.  They are wired a particular way and they will NEVER change.  Fact. 
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Everyone has free will including psychos. We all know the difference between right and wrong. We all have done right or have done wrong...how do I know this...well it's because we are all sinners.
 
Below is one doctor's perspective on psychos.
 
 

Jennifer Skeem, PhD, is a professor of psychology and social behavior at the University of California Irvine and has been looking into the minds of psychopaths to separate fact from fiction. For starters, no one is born a psychopath; it's a combination of genes and the environment.

With psychopaths, forget serial killers, as many psychopaths have no history of criminal activity or being violent. According to Dr. Skeem, nearly one percent of the population would be considered psychopaths.

Psychopaths, in many ways, tend to have no regard for the feelings of others. With this disregard of others, psychopaths are selfish and never feel guilty for their actions. Psychopaths are also wired to get what they want and are ruthless in their pursuit of rewards.

Dr. Skeem points to real life figures such as Bernie Madoff and former Enron executive Andrew Fastow as examples of psychopaths. These individuals did not care about others, that they were lying and manipulating just so they could get what they want and showed little remorse or guilt for their actions. Ultimately their greed and psychopathic behavior led to demise.

Believe it or not, some of these psychopathic qualities could be a good thing. Being a leader requires some impulsive behavior as well as the ability to be bold and take risks with a drive to succeed. Those tendencies could be considered psychopathic according to Dr. Skeem.

There are psychopaths that are violent and commit crimes, but they are not doomed to be psychopaths. Early treatment, such as intensive mental health counseling and drug rehabilitation, has been shown to help reduce violent behavior and criminal activity in those labeled as psychopaths.

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