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#26 Posted: 11/20/2007 8:08:55 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by njdan:
They said Taylor was to fast and strong for Pavlik and we see what happened there, I can see the same thing happening here. Hatton is a tough fighter and will give Mayweather alot to handle. Put your money on Hatton.
Whos they? everyone in here had Kelly Pavlik that night. there are NO similarities between that fight and this fight |
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#27 Posted: 11/27/2007 12:59:43 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:
This line seems very, very, very trappy. "On paper," there is no question that PBF is better:
1) More experience in big matches.
2) Home turf.
3) Big reach advantage.
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PBF Win (DNB) -235
PBF Decision +104
PBF Inside 12 +372
That -235 won't be enough to really scare peeps looking for PBF action. Most won't have too much trouble taking on that type of chalk for a routine 20-100 rock win. Yeah, peeps looking to win several stacks may get scared off, but the casual bettor won't be run off with that type of line.
All the above makes me think that this line could be a HUGE trap being sprung by Vegas.
Glad this thing is 2.5 weeks away, cause this line seems very, very trappy, indeed. Need time to think.
How can u not take this fight at decision, Floyd is much quicker and has become set as a 'defender' i dont see either giving each other a serious enough blow to have this be called a TKO.
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#28 Posted: 11/27/2007 1:10:08 AM I think the reason why it seems 'trappy' is so the books dont scare off the large amount of English backers. Watching Floyd in Vegas there always seems to be an "edge" for him. I have bet him about his last 5 fights and honestly i thought a couple of the fights could have gone either way- although the always fresher looking Mayweather seems like he didnt even fight and i think the judges are always on pretty boy's back.  |
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#29 Posted: 11/27/2007 1:15:11 AM Who did Mayweather fight in his last KO/TKO and what was the date i cant recall? just curious and for the benefit of us all.... |
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#30 Posted: 11/27/2007 1:44:40 AM
I'd be surprised if FM loses a single round.
This fight is interesting but it will be FM all night long.
FM is way to quick and elusive for RH..
RH is a great fighter , but FM is a legend in the making and this fight will cement his place as one of the all-time greats........
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#31 Posted: 11/27/2007 12:54:08 PM
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#32 Posted: 11/28/2007 2:07:21 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by A2C:
He lost 5 rounds against DLH, and Hatton's better than DLH right now. I don't know how you can objectively say that Mayweather won't lose a single round. Hatton's quicker and more skilled than you're giving him credit for. Mayweather reacts to his opponents, so he will have to adjust to Hatton's style at the beginning of the fight; as a result, Hatton likely takes a few rounds then. I'm not saying that Hatton wins the fight, but you're deluding yourself if you really believe that Hatton gets swept in this one.
I agree A2C. I think I read somewhere a while back that someone had compared this fight to Gatti-Mayweather with just slightly more success for Hatton then Gatti had. I just laughed.
Like you said, DLH won rounds against PBF with the pressure that he put on. Heck, he won the fight on one judges card. What will the judges think about the more consisted pressure that Hatton will put on. I'm not saying that Hatton wins either, but this is not near as lopsided as a lot of people think and I don't even like Hatton as a fighter all that much. I just hope a Hatton cut doesn't come into play. I like the new 24/7 episodes, Floyd is his usual brat-like villain self, but Hatton is a lot more entertaining than DLH. I admire what Floyd has been able to do in the ring, but I can't stand the guy
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#33 Posted: 11/28/2007 3:24:07 AM Yeah, Hatton getting cut will fcku this thing up.
Personally, I believe Hatton gets to Floyd early and gets him in serious trouble. But, he won't finish, and then the fight will come down to the judges.
In Vegas, Floyd has the judges in his back pocket, and all we need is a bunch of controvery to generate a HUGE PAYDAY RE-MATCH. Happens all the fckuing time in boxing and will happen again.
Unless something changes, I'd take Hatton +9.5 points on the handicap. To me, that is the best bet.
I did like Hatton ML, but that means he has to finish PBF once he gets him in trouble, and I don't think he's good enough to do that. And if it comes down to decision, Hatton will get fckued......everyone freakin' ought to know that.......so a draw could be possible, which would allow Vegas to screw all those on Floyd by decision.....and a draw would generate a re-match.
Hatton +9.5. Hatton hurts him early, can't finish, goes to judges........Hatton gets fckued over.........Vegas wins.........rematch happens.
Hatton +9.5 is the way to bet this fight and come out ahead. |
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#34 Posted: 11/28/2007 3:29:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by claycourtlesson: This line seems very, very, very trappy. "On paper," there is no question that PBF is better:
1) More experience in big matches.
2) Home turf.
3) Big reach advantage.
5 Dimes has these:
PBF Win (DNB) -235
PBF Decision +104
PBF Inside 12 +372
That -235 won't be enough to really scare peeps looking for PBF action. Most won't have too much trouble taking on that type of chalk for a routine 20-100 rock win. Yeah, peeps looking to win several stacks may get scared off, but the casual bettor won't be run off with that type of line.
All the above makes me think that this line could be a HUGE trap being sprung by Vegas.
Glad this thing is 2.5 weeks away, cause this line seems very, very trappy, indeed. Need time to think.
Guys PBF workout ethics are insane. Have any of you been watching the 24/7 series on HBO with these guys. Hatton doesn't have a chance. PBF decision +104 is a great great pick. PFB doesn't pack that much into a punch and Hatton is a slugger who is not going to go down, in fear of his countrymen hating him. PBF will clearly win this fight. 12 round decider to keep the fans happy and make more Golden Boy fights possible in the future just like Mayweather vs. Oscar. GL 
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#35 Posted: 11/28/2007 3:42:02 PM
You lads havent really got a clue,ponce boy Mayweathers body wont know what the people hit it.
Ricky will be in his face mauling and bullying him,you lot really gotta wake up
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#36 Posted: 11/28/2007 6:59:59 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by ManchesterUk: Ricky will body punch that fuckin ponce to submission. You lads havent really got a clue,ponce boy Mayweathers body wont know what the people hit it. Ricky will be in his face mauling and bullying him,you lot really gotta wake up
Lol. The line wouldn't be so super high if that was true. PBF is quick my friend and Hatton won't be able to keep his eyes in one place. Hatton probably does pack a heavy punch, but the question is will he be able to get them off with PBF quickness and agility.
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#37 Posted: 11/30/2007 12:18:20 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by claycourtlesson: Yeah, Hatton getting cut will fcku this thing up.
Personally, I believe Hatton gets to Floyd early and gets him in serious trouble. But, he won't finish, and then the fight will come down to the judges.
In Vegas, Floyd has the judges in his back pocket, and all we need is a bunch of controvery to generate a HUGE PAYDAY RE-MATCH. Happens all the fckuing time in boxing and will happen again.
Unless something changes, I'd take Hatton +9.5 points on the handicap. To me, that is the best bet.
I did like Hatton ML, but that means he has to finish PBF once he gets him in trouble, and I don't think he's good enough to do that. And if it comes down to decision, Hatton will get fckued......everyone freakin' ought to know that.......so a draw could be possible, which would allow Vegas to screw all those on Floyd by decision.....and a draw would generate a re-match.
Hatton +9.5. Hatton hurts him early, can't finish, goes to judges........Hatton gets fckued over.........Vegas wins.........rematch happens.
Hatton +9.5 is the way to bet this fight and come out ahead.
I like that Hatton points handicap bet.
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#38 Posted: 11/30/2007 10:30:00 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by asloper6001:
Lol. The line wouldn't be so super high if that was true. PBF is quick my friend and Hatton won't be able to keep his eyes in one place. Hatton probably does pack a heavy punch, but the question is will he be able to get them off with PBF quickness and agility.
Lopes,I only ever watch Hattons fights cause hes from near by,I know darn all about boxing but I can tell you this fight isnt going to be pretty,its gonna be no slugging match.Ricky will be inside mauling away and working under the ponces ribcage.Theyll be no standing there trading blows,its a style mis-match,Ricky isnt gonna stand back and let ponceboy pick him off,he`ll be inside spoiling.
Wont be a pretty sight. |
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#39 Posted: 12/1/2007 2:59:01 PM If you are gonna bet PBF I would wait till the day of the fight.
Theres around 20k English coming over,some with tickets,some watching telecasts in the halls.Rickys price is gonna see a lot of action and PBF price should drift a little. |
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#40 Posted: 12/4/2007 7:48:05 PM FMAYWEATHER ALL THE WAY!!!!! |
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#41 Posted: 12/5/2007 3:12:16 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by troy9828:
Pretty Boy Floyd here
MAYWEATHER BY DECISION -120
thats the money mayweather pick... get ready to cash your ticket !! |
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#42 Posted: 12/5/2007 3:15:35 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by A2C:
He lost 5 rounds against DLH, and Hatton's better than DLH right now. I don't know how you can objectively say that Mayweather won't lose a single round. Hatton's quicker and more skilled than you're giving him credit for. Mayweather reacts to his opponents, so he will have to adjust to Hatton's style at the beginning of the fight; as a result, Hatton likely takes a few rounds then. I'm not saying that Hatton wins the fight, but you're deluding yourself if you really believe that Hatton gets swept in this one.
hatton is better than de la hoya.... what are you smoking. who has hatton beat ?? NOBODY his last fight the guy was washed up. ricky is way overrated. thats why mayweather came out of retirement to make some EASY MONEY $$$ this brit doesn't even spar against a person. just uses a bag. hatton 2 fights ago almost got Knocked out. |
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#43 Posted: 12/5/2007 9:00:16 PM
PBF 12 round decision best = best pick.
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#44 Posted: 12/8/2007 12:41:06 PM Am down on Hatton +9.5 -115 to win 500 smacks.
But now I am concerned...........very concerned, in fact, that Hatton is such a publicky play.
Many more times than not, when the public piles on the dog, it is over for the dog, for sure.
The points handicap is now sitting at 8 -115, and I think I am going to reduce exposure a little and hope and pray for a middle.
Just can't feel good being on the same side as a public play underdog.
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#45 Posted: 12/8/2007 12:59:42 PM |
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#46 Posted: 12/8/2007 3:13:49 PM
Hatton by Decision |
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