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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:06:53 AM
There are many things public officials probably shouldn't do during a severe recession, but no one seems to have told the leaders in Florida about them. One thing, for instance, would be giving a dozen top aides hefty raises while urging a rise in property taxes, as the mayor of Miami-Dade County recently did. Or jacking up already exorbitant hurricane-insurance premiums, as Florida's government-run property insurer just did. Or sending an army of highly paid lobbyists to push for a steep hike in electricity rates, as South Florida's public utility is doing.

Now it's official. The region - Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties - lost 27,400 residents between 2008 and 2009, while Florida as a whole lost 58,000. That's not exactly a mass exodus for a state of 18 million; but it's the first net outflow in 63 years for a state that considers itself the new California. "It's difficult for the working middle class to justify living here," Mike Jones, president of the Palm Beach County Economic Council, conceded to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "As much as they may love the sunshine, as you squeeze them out, they may find it in their best interests to move."


Brilliant!  Raise the taxes on your taxbase to the point where you lose your taxbase

Sometimes,,,,,less is more
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Posted: 9/4/2009 6:07:27 AM
all headed to Galt's Gulch for the winter

ha ha charlie crist. nothing but retirees, cubans, and foreclosures. good luck taxing them
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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:41:26 AM
c'mon KOAJ, who could resist taxing their way to a pay raise, especially now, i mean they make a good case for a need for a COLA (for some reason these also only go up up up,,,)


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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:02:43 AM
inflation
helicopters spraying money on the masses
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Posted: 9/4/2009 10:38:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KOAJ:

inflation
helicopters spraying money on the masses


I've headached long enough as to why people 'don't get it'.  Will still be prepared to help others but it's time to worry about number one (and my closest).  The market for physical metals went wacko yest., are you still vested in SLV?  My savings is in physical silver, eagles for the most part, and have bought a couple other novelty items (so long as they are .999 silver and i'm not paying some crazy spot+ premium).  Had a couple sheckles in paypal so decided to see what ebay had to offer and i snagged a couple palatable deals last week,,,,was looking on there yest after i saw metals starting to rocket and wow people were paying over 20+$'s for silver eagles to be shipped to them from ebay .  Going to my local shop shortly,,,,,,,wanted to get an oz. or 2 of gold coins but prices got screwy once, well, prices took off. undertandably so.

closing on that casa KOJA
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Posted: 9/4/2009 11:09:36 AM
be easy - i dont really find that metals have intrinsic value...meaning i cant do a damn thing with silver eagles. i have SLV but the only problem with having SLV is selling it for USD

i would rather buy 5 lb bags of rice from costco than gold or silver bars to have them sit in my basement.

house closing in nov. thx for the

my only justification for buying this now (outside of the 'happy wife, happy life mantra') is to be long something other than us dollars and be able to get usage out of it. if the system does go boom in the next few years...i have a house and not a savings account which will be worthless
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Posted: 9/4/2009 12:16:20 PM
You guys speakin' of Cubans in Fla.
 
I read recently that over 1 million of the 11 million population,
has made the 90mi trip via homemade rafts and anything else that will float. Castro must be doin' a Great Job, and BHO would like the same.
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Posted: 9/4/2009 12:33:35 PM
i would much rather have gold than rice
i would much rather have silver than rice
 
metals have never gone to zero
 
when the garbage hits the fan, and it comes time to trade the metal in, it wont be for federal reserve notes
 
thats easy for me to say when there are fields of wheat surrounding me
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Posted: 9/9/2009 10:25:26 AM


this is like utopia, where we all agree

having a high tax is not a good thing
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Posted: 9/9/2009 11:16:27 AM
I don't mind paying taxes, as long as it is being used wisely {not health care for illegal immigrants, aid to countries that would not piss on us if we were on fire, etc} I also can not argue having silver/gold if a depression were to actually hit.But, personally i would rather have resources to feed + help protect me + mine if things do go to hell {tractor,fuel,  guns + ammo, fruit orchard, well water, etc} And by no means am i a survivalist, i am just not sure what stacks of silver eagles would do to get you through those times.  But what the hell do i know...
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Posted: 9/9/2009 11:24:38 AM
well if one were to hoard gold and silver i am sure he would have the foresight to take of the resources part first
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Posted: 9/9/2009 11:29:04 AM
one would think/hope so
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Posted: 9/9/2009 1:34:30 PM
good thread......I live in Broward county......At the peak of the market, our house was worth about $425,000 and my property taxes were $2,600 and home owners insurance was $2,400......According to zillow.com, my house is now worth about $232,000 and my property taxes are $2,500 (keep in mind that the homestead exemption was doubled from 25k to 50k) and my home owners insurance is $3,400....we made no claims with any of the storms that we had from 2004 through 2006......you do the math
 
BeEasy mentioned the rediculous wind-storm insurance coverage....you think that's rediculous, you should see what the deductible is if I did need to make a claim
 
Piss on government
 
 
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Posted: 9/9/2009 1:38:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ApacheM:

You guys speakin' of Cubans in Fla.
 
I read recently that over 1 million of the 11 million population,
has made the 90mi trip via homemade rafts and anything else that will float. Castro must be doin' a Great Job, and BHO would like the same.
I wouldn't doubt this to be true as I remember days that we went offshore dolphin fishing hoping to find an abandoned raft because the dolphin would be all over the place underneath them.....now days, we have more of a problem with Haitians than Cubans...However, the Cubans get to stay if they set foot on dry land, but all the Haitians that step foot on land are sent back home.
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