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Posted: 2/20/2010 2:01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dmon826:

1-1 on the real plays, hitting on Brown in the Ivies but losing on ODU in BB (plus losing the two leaners).  Not a great night.

More work to come later as we look ahead to a big day tomorrow.

Great call on Brown, could not have been furthur off on that brown/penn under

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Posted: 2/20/2010 2:07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dmon826:

1-1 on the real plays, hitting on Brown in the Ivies but losing on ODU in BB (plus losing the two leaners).  Not a great night.

More work to come later as we look ahead to a big day tomorrow.

 

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Posted: 2/20/2010 2:10:31 AM
Tomorrow is going to probably be the toughest day all year to bet, with three really chalky games and one really tough pick'em, type game.  If I had to guess the lines, here is what I would guess:

Cornell @ Darmouth +18.5
Columbia @ Harvard -15
Yale @ Penn +1
Brown @ Princeton -14

If those are actually the lines we end up getting (or anything close to that), it's gonna be really tough to find any good betting values.

Other than maybe Cornell, I'm not sure what I'd even consider tomorrow.  Luckily there's a lotttt of other games out there.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 3:30:22 AM

Yale mL

Great call on Brown tonight. Only other play I see worth playing would be Cornell/Dartmouth u131.5 (my guess). With the Tigers on deck and this being Cornell's fourth straight road contest, I could see Cornell easing into this game with little motivation. Dartmouth winning tonight only adds to the possibility of the Big Green playing solid D and trying to keep this game close for as long as possible, if that's even feasible.

GL with the plays tomorrow. 

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Posted: 2/20/2010 4:03:48 AM
Cornell over Harvard
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Posted: 2/20/2010 11:10:37 AM
penn is 3.5 fave
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Posted: 2/20/2010 1:38:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Dmon826:

Tomorrow is going to probably be the toughest day all year to bet, with three really chalky games and one really tough pick'em, type game.  If I had to guess the lines, here is what I would guess:

Cornell @ Darmouth +18.5
Columbia @ Harvard -15
Yale @ Penn +1
Brown @ Princeton -14

If those are actually the lines we end up getting (or anything close to that), it's gonna be really tough to find any good betting values.

Other than maybe Cornell, I'm not sure what I'd even consider tomorrow.  Luckily there's a lotttt of other games out there.


Yeah, the card really is horrendous.  The actual lines as of this minute:

Cornell @ Darmouth +20 (120)
Columbia @ Harvard -14.5 (131.5)
Yale @ Penn -3 (135.5)
Brown @ Princeton -14.5 (118.5)

Not sure if I'm gonna play anything today.  Probably won't touch any of these.

I gotta head out in an hour or so for a few hours so probably won't have time to do the normal full writeups, but luckily it's a good day to skip those for the first time with such a crap card.  If you have any questions or wanna get my feedback on any of the games, the next hour's the time to ask.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 1:41:35 PM

Went through all these match ups, and you were pretty close on your lines...tough to find good value.  Had 3 units on Brown, and put 3 more on them, after I saw you on them. Lost 1 unti on Harvard, but a 5 unit night is nice!

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Posted: 2/20/2010 1:43:12 PM
Working on the Northern Colorado game now. I have a feeling they lose today  We'll see, still looking at a few things.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 1:49:28 PM
Harvard deflated after last night? Or is Columbia just too bad a team to take advantage?
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Posted: 2/20/2010 2:23:01 PM
I'll do some quick mini-writeups just because I'm gonna be out the rest of the day:

Cornell @ Darmouth +20:  If I had to bet a game today in the Ivy League, it would be this one, and I lean Cornell.  Dartmouth already more than accomplished its goal for the weekend.  They were hoping and praying to beat Columbia (knowing that it was their best chance for a win in the league this year), and they did.  They could lose by 50 today and the weekend would still be a huge success, since the split is all they were hoping for.  For Cornell's part, I am not worried at all about a letdown.  After the Penn game debacle, Donahue ripped these guys a new one and won't let them let down against an inferior opponent.  Also, this is one of the best shooting teams in the country, if not the best, and they broke out of their shooting slump in a big way yesterday.  They were cold for three games in a row before yesterday (Brown, Penn, Princeton), but they broke out in a big way yesterday against a really good Harvard perimeter defense.  Against Dartmouth today, I'd expect yesterday's hot shooting to carry over.  If I play an Ivy game today, it's either Cornell or Cornell 1H.

Columbia @ Harvard -14.5:  Harvard actually played a really good game yesterday, but Cornell played unbelievable.  As Harvard's assistant Coach tweeted, "VERY proud of our effort.  We played our behind off.  Cornell's experience and 12-23 3PT shooting too much to overcome.  Awesome atmosphere."  Well said.  The home crowd will still be sweet tonight, and I'd like to think that they come back well from yesterday and take out their aggression on someone.  Unfortunately, the fact that Columbia lost to Dartmouth last night takes a lot of the value out of this one, since they should be a little angry about that and ought to come out hungry tonight.  Had they lost, they would've already achieved their "goal" for the weekend of earning a split and possibly been in a soft mental spot and ripe for Harvard.  Instead, they feel like they have unfinished business, they're embarrassed about their play yesterday, and all of that will probably make me lay off.

Yale @ Penn -3:  In case you haven't gotten this yet, this Penn team is probably the toughest team in the league to figure out.  Unless I have a really good read on a game (like yesterday's Penn-Brown game), I've been avoiding them for the most part.  So this is one of those games I'm avoiding.  The general numbers point to Yale, as does Penn's injury/fatigue situation that comes into play especially on the back end of these back-to-backs.  But Penn actually does match up pretty well with Yale because of Yale's shooting problems / interior-focused style of offense and its motion offense.  If the threes all falling, Penn can and will win this game.  I'm staying away completely, but if I had to pick I might even pick Penn today.

Brown @ Princeton -14.5:  Princeton continues to be incredibly impressive.  In a take-care-of-business game yesterday against Yale, they took care of business game in a big way.  They put together their best offensive game of the season by faaar, playing a near perfect game on that end of the floor.  It's actually their defense that was mediocre yesterday, allowing Yale to shoot so great.  But as consistent as their D has been all year, you can expect a defensive bounce-back today.  Their shooting will also come back to earth a bit today from its crazy-good level yesterday, but that doesn't mean they won't continue to stroke it pretty well.  Brown, for its part, played a fantastic game at Penn yesterday keyed by great three-point shooting.  When they shoot well, they can stay in a game with anyone.  I'm wouldn't consider going against Princeton in another take-care-of-business game (before the showdown for the league at Cornell next week), especially when I expect their defense to cause Brown serious problems, but I also don't want to lay this many points against a Brown team that's underrated and playing pretty well.

So there you have it, some quick mini-writeups.  It's not the usual effort, but hopefully it'll give you something to go on if you're looking at any of these games.

Win some money today, folks.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 2:27:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Dmon826:

I'll do some quick mini-writeups just because I'm gonna be out the rest of the day:

Cornell @ Darmouth +20:  If I had to bet a game today in the Ivy League, it would be this one, and I lean Cornell.  Dartmouth already more than accomplished its goal for the weekend.  They were hoping and praying to beat Columbia (knowing that it was their best chance for a win in the league this year), and they did.  They could lose by 50 today and the weekend would still be a huge success, since the split is all they were hoping for.  For Cornell's part, I am not worried at all about a letdown.  After the Penn game debacle, Donahue ripped these guys a new one and won't let them let down against an inferior opponent.  Also, this is one of the best shooting teams in the country, if not the best, and they broke out of their shooting slump in a big way yesterday.  They were cold for three games in a row before yesterday (Brown, Penn, Princeton), but they broke out in a big way yesterday against a really good Harvard perimeter defense.  Against Dartmouth today, I'd expect yesterday's hot shooting to carry over.  If I play an Ivy game today, it's either Cornell or Cornell 1H.

Columbia @ Harvard -14.5:  Harvard actually played a really good game yesterday, but Cornell played unbelievable.  As Harvard's assistant Coach tweeted, "VERY proud of our effort.  We played our behind off.  Cornell's experience and 12-23 3PT shooting too much to overcome.  Awesome atmosphere."  Well said.  The home crowd will still be sweet tonight, and I'd like to think that they come back well from yesterday and take out their aggression on someone.  Unfortunately, the fact that Columbia lost to Dartmouth last night takes a lot of the value out of this one, since they should be a little angry about that and ought to come out hungry tonight.  Had they lost, they would've already achieved their "goal" for the weekend of earning a split and possibly been in a soft mental spot and ripe for Harvard.  Instead, they feel like they have unfinished business, they're embarrassed about their play yesterday, and all of that will probably make me lay off.

Yale @ Penn -3:  In case you haven't gotten this yet, this Penn team is probably the toughest team in the league to figure out.  Unless I have a really good read on a game (like yesterday's Penn-Brown game), I've been avoiding them for the most part.  So this is one of those games I'm avoiding.  The general numbers point to Yale, as does Penn's injury/fatigue situation that comes into play especially on the back end of these back-to-backs.  But Penn actually does match up pretty well with Yale because of Yale's shooting problems / interior-focused style of offense and its motion offense.  If the threes all falling, Penn can and will win this game.  I'm staying away completely, but if I had to pick I might even pick Penn today.

Brown @ Princeton -14.5:  Princeton continues to be incredibly impressive.  In a take-care-of-business game yesterday against Yale, they took care of business game in a big way.  They put together their best offensive game of the season by faaar, playing a near perfect game on that end of the floor.  It's actually their defense that was mediocre yesterday, allowing Yale to shoot so great.  But as consistent as their D has been all year, you can expect a defensive bounce-back today.  Their shooting will also come back to earth a bit today from its crazy-good level yesterday, but that doesn't mean they won't continue to stroke it pretty well.  Brown, for its part, played a fantastic game at Penn yesterday keyed by great three-point shooting.  When they shoot well, they can stay in a game with anyone.  I'm wouldn't consider going against Princeton in another take-care-of-business game (before the showdown for the league at Cornell next week), especially when I expect their defense to cause Brown serious problems, but I also don't want to lay this many points against a Brown team that's underrated and playing pretty well.

So there you have it, some quick mini-writeups.  It's not the usual effort, but hopefully it'll give you something to go on if you're looking at any of these games.

Win some money today, folks.
well written,  thankyou
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Posted: 2/20/2010 2:41:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cgonzo84:

Working on the Northern Colorado game now. I have a feeling they lose today  We'll see, still looking at a few things.


Gonzo- do me a favor and check your PM's.  That's it.  Ttyl...
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Posted: 2/20/2010 3:23:10 PM
OK, for anyone who cares, here's my card today:

Elon -2.5 (big)
Vandy -1 (average)
Cal -6.5 (small)

I'm outta here.  On the way to AC.  I'll be the guy hitting points at the craps table like it's my job, so stop by and say hi.

Good luck, everyone.
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